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Old 11.12.2020, 11:42
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For 2020, I would have expected that the person that took the lead in the global Covid crisis would be person of the year. Unfortunately, there is no such person

Edit: oh, there is: all these people working in the medical sector!
I agree. It would be nice to see the medical workers who are putting their lives on the line, etc. get that recognition. I think it is tradition, though, for Time to put the nominated President on the cover during election years. Maybe they didn't want it to come across as though they had intentionally not done that with Biden. Who knows...
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Old 11.12.2020, 13:04
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For 2020, I would have expected that the person that took the lead in the global Covid crisis would be person of the year. Unfortunately, there is no such person

Edit: oh, there is: all these people working in the medical sector!
Time magazine said that Fauci and people working in the medical sector were in the final shortlist but did not make the cut.
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Time magazine said that Fauci and people working in the medical sector were in the final shortlist but did not make the cut.
That country is just such a joke.
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Time Magazine named President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris its "Person of the Year" in an announcement Thursday night
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Old 11.12.2020, 19:57
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Hallelujah! GOP showing signs of cojones
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The Senate voted overwhelmingly on Friday to approve a sweeping defense bill with a veto-proof majority, a major rebuke to President Donald Trump who has urged Republican opposition and threatened to veto the legislation.
The vote was 84 to 13.
German magazine Der Spiegel names Trump 'Loser of the Year'

Manhattan DA interviewed employees at Trump's bank and insurer in the criminal probe
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Trump's presidency ends as it began. Without decency and without dignity."


Perfect.
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Old 11.12.2020, 21:14
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Trump never has been “man of the year”. Bet that pisses him off.
Hitler was man of the year.

Clearly not all that it's crapped up to be.

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Hitler was man of the year.

Clearly not all that it's crapped up to be.

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True.

But for me, Biden is my "man of the year."

I literally started crying when it was finally announced that he won the election. And I realized that it was because it was such a huge sense of relief. The mere thought of having to endure another four years of anything that even remotely resembles the past four years is excruciating. Almost 300,000 Americans have lost their lives to COVID in less than a year, and Trump has never once publicly offered even an ounce of sympathy or compassion for them or their families. Instead, he has told people that the virus is nothing to worry about. Literally.

I don't know what kind of person thinks that is okay.

One of the biggest reasons why I like Biden is because of his decency, his compassion and his humanity.
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Hallelujah! GOP showing signs of cojones
Yes, but it's not quite true that Trump can't veto the bill. He can, and probably will, but because of the size of the margin of approval in the Senate, Trump's veto would not automatically annul the bill. There would be a veto override vote—a vote on whether to veto the veto—and that is by no means sure to pass, as some GOP lawmakers like Kevin McCarthy have already indicated that although they voted for the bill, they would not vote to override a veto, and some Democrats would also not support an override.

It's extraordinary that a "democracy" would place so much power in the hands of one person who is only indirectly elected by the people.

Also, I love that veto is an anagram of vote.
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One of the biggest reasons why I like Biden is because of his decency, his compassion and his humanity.
He's responsible for millions of additional prison years served due to his 1994 Crime Bill.

If that's compassion to you I really don't want to know what hate means.
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He's responsible for millions of additional prison years served due to his 1994 Crime Bill.

If that's compassion to you I really don't want to know what hate means.
So you advocate more leniency for criminals, get them back out on the streets as quickly as possible?
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... crapped up to be.
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He's responsible for millions of additional prison years served due to his 1994 Crime Bill.

If that's compassion to you I really don't want to know what hate means.
A lot of people supported that bill. Black legislators, faith leaders. Biden was not responsible on his own.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/3753368001/

Biden was one of 61 senators supporting that bill. There was a lot of compromise. He wanted to include prevention measures, but when the Republicans came to power in 1994, the prevention measures went up in smoke. I think he admits today that parts of the bill were not effective.

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Not sure if Urs Max's post above is directed toward me, as I have him on my ignore list and was only able to see his comment because it had been quoted.

But regarding Biden's compassion and his role in the The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, the bill aimed to reduce violent crime, as violent crime had been dramatically rising in the US at the time. So one could see it as the bill having more compassion for the victims and for people in general (i.e. the desire to have less people become the victim of violent crime).
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So you advocate that the longer the criminals serve the better? Maybe everyone should get imprisoned for life?
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Old 12.12.2020, 22:41
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A lot of people supported that bill. Black legislators, faith leaders. Biden was not responsible on his own.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/3753368001/

Biden was one of 61 senators supporting that bill. There was a lot of compromise. He wanted to include prevention measures, but when the Republicans came to power in 1994, the prevention measures went up in smoke. I think he admits today that parts of the bill were not effective.
In fact the act was signed into law September 1994, that's before the mid-term elections. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the Democrats held all three parts during Clinton's first two years, Senate and House and POTUS.

The support the bill got, or didn't get, doesn't change the fact that it was sponsored by Biden and basically written by him. It essentially did away with the Pell Grants (which gave inmates a path to a good education and reduced relapses significantly), provided huge incentives to increase prison time served from 50% of the sentence to 85%, initiated the militarisation of the police, introduced the death sentence for dozens of crimes, and quite a bit more of the stuff that is heavily criticised today.

I do agree however that the support it got from black Congress members makes at least part of the BLM protests against the current situation in the prisons look hypocritical. Especially given that the much harsher punishment against crack cocaine use/possession compared to weed/THC and heroine was demanded by black Congress members.
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But regarding Biden's compassion and his role in the The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, the bill aimed to reduce violent crime, as violent crime had been dramatically rising in the US at the time. So one could see it as the bill having more compassion for the victims and for people in general (i.e. the desire to have less people become the victim of violent crime).
So you think it's an act of compassion to introduce the death sentence for dozens of crimes???

The mind boggles due to this level of mental acrobatics.
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He's responsible for millions of additional prison years served due to his 1994 Crime Bill.

If that's compassion to you I really don't want to know what hate means.
Biden voted for every illegal war the US have prosecuted. He is partially responsible for millions of ME refugees, immigration crisis in Europe and ME. Collapse of Iraq, Libya and Syria. Not to mention his votes led to thousands of Americans killed in wars as well as 100,000s of Arabs.
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Biden voted for every illegal war the US have prosecuted. He is partially responsible for millions of ME refugees, immigration crisis in Europe and ME. Collapse of Iraq, Libya and Syria. Not to mention his votes led to thousands of Americans killed in wars as well as 100,000s of Arabs.
Has the makings of a fine President to be.
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So you advocate that the longer the criminals serve the better? Maybe everyone should get imprisoned for life?
Is that what the bill aimed to do?

Hyperbolic much?
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