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Old 17.12.2020, 05:04
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Here you go 22Yards... In the past, you often quoted the Media Bias website to reinforce your points... Well, they rated CNN "left" and CNN's veracity regarding reporting as "mixed"... I gather you had to find a new source to support your views?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/
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Here you go 22Yards... In the past, you often quoted the Media Bias website to reinforce your points... Well, they rated CNN "left" and CNN's veracity regarding reporting as "mixed"... I gather you had to find a new source to support your views?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/
Comprehension issues, terrifisch? Or did you not even read what I wrote, nor look at the chart, nor the link that I provided? You arch conservatives are so desperate to put others down that you don't even notice when they're agreeing with you!

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Old 17.12.2020, 08:51
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Interesting overview, thanks.



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Sorry but CNN "moderately left-wing"??! Now that is quite the stretch and too funny

Think your link is out of date!
Yes it's from 2018, he gave the link of a newer version below
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A unique chance to blow up the Trump casino in Atlanta: https://globalnews.ca/news/7526810/d...ition-auction/

Slight disadvantage: it's on 29th January - not on the 20th
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Old 17.12.2020, 20:28
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Turns out the cyberattack under Donnie's watch was far more widespread and serious than so far admitted
A number of US government agencies -- the Departments of Homeland Security, Agriculture, Pentagon, NSA and Commerce -- have been compromised in the hack, along with private-sector companies in the consulting, technology, telecom and energy industries.

Seems that removing hackers from these secure networks is easier said than done; so the hack is ongoing
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Old 17.12.2020, 20:51
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A number of US government agencies -- the Departments of Homeland Security, Agriculture, Pentagon, NSA and Commerce -- have been compromised in the hack, along with private-sector companies in the consulting, technology, telecom and energy industries.

Seems that removing hackers from these secure networks is easier said than done; so the hack is ongoing
And just last month, Trump had fired Christopher Krebs, the director of the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.

Somewhat related (and I know you've probably seen this already)... I guess a Dutch guy has admitted to hacking into Trump's Twitter account after correctly guessing his password (maga2020). He said that he had also correctly guessed Trump's Twitter password once before (yourefired). The Dutch authorities are refusing to press charges, claiming that he is an "ethical hacker."

Trump's Twitter account was hacked, Dutch ministry confirms
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nistry-affirms
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In the same way, CNN is moderately left-leaning, with mixed reliability in its reporting and unlikely to gleefully reprint stories made up by the conservative Post.
It's pretty telling that you posted an outdated chart. CNN these days is at least as far out as the Daily Caller, with limited reliability.

Still, the fact that Glenn Greenwald, co-founder of the paper, left The Intercept because he was internally censored when he wanted to report on the story, removes pretty much every question about bias. That happened pretty soon after the suppresion of the story broke.

Either way, you, as is so common these days, are targeting the messenger rather than the story. This is why your post is not really of concern.

But of course it's much easier to throw a red herring in the ring and initiate a useless attack on a minor aspect of a post rather than address the elefant in the room. With the social media's importance these days everybody's alarm bells should have gone off their suppression of news.
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I'm guessing Terrifisch is pro Republican but has to deal with the unfortunate situation of having too many Trumpsters/Tea Party politicians in the House.
Sorry..just saw your post-Olygirl. I am actually registered as independent but see myself as fiscally conservative, but socially liberal.
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But let's all remember, you're definitely not pro-Trump, not anti-Democrat, absolutely apolitical, and not feeling very hurt by Trump's crushing defeat.
Wrong again 22 Yards but please keep trying You seem to like to label those who oppose your views. Fascinating!

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Wrong again 22 Yards but please keep trying You seem to like to label those who oppose your views. Fascinating!
And you seem to like writing crazy **** in support of Trump (conspiracies etc) and then pretending that you are some kind of objective, bi-partisan saint every time someone points that out. The delusion is strong with you.
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It's pretty telling that you posted an outdated chart. CNN these days is at least as far out as the Daily Caller, with limited reliability.
Source for this claim? Or is it just your personal opinion?

As for the chart, I tried to screenshot the latest chart from that website, but the new owners of the chart have cunningly made that impossible. That's why I provided a link to the current version. But it seems that people have problems clicking these days.

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With the social media's importance these days everybody's alarm bells should have gone off their suppression of news.
And yet, they didn't. Why do you think that is? Am I to understand that there is a global conspiracy binding most of the world's media together to pervert the news? Even those media that aren't owned by Rupert Murdoch? That seems a tad unlikely.

But since we're talking about perversion of the truth, how does Trump's banning of CNN's Jim Acosta from White House briefings sit with you? When Trump doesn't like the news, he attempts to silence it.

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I am actually registered as independent but see myself as fiscally conservative, but socially liberal.
So you're pro-government-supplied healthcare for all, pro-abortion, pro-expanded social services, anti-death penalty? Tell us about those liberal views of yours.

As a matter of interest, could you state plainly your level of, and reasons for, support for Trump, and for Biden?
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Wrong again 22 Yards but please keep trying
I'm wrong? So you ARE definitely pro-Trump, anti-Democrat, absolutely NOT apolitical, and you ARE feeling very hurt by Trump's crushing defeat?

But that seems to fly in the face of what you just wrote!

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You seem to like to label those who oppose your views. Fascinating!
Do I? Do you have examples to back up your deduction?

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Old 18.12.2020, 09:58
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

CNN is much more objective when there isn't a delusional psychopath in the White House.
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Old 18.12.2020, 10:54
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I wish I could say I've found an unbiased journalistic source that I could habitually read and not cringe from time to time (you get the spin they want to put on a story when you really know the subject very well). The Economist is the only periodical we still read in our households. I can't comment on CNN because I don't watch...
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

It is the responsibility of news agencies to report the news. Too often, these days, they appear to think they need to make the news.
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Old 18.12.2020, 14:10
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I think it's utterly naive to assume any news source is genuinely impartial.

As an intelligent reader you need to read up on the story from different perspectives and form your own conclusion.

I would rather read a news source with a known bias as then I know which corrective filter to apply, than a news source that drapes itself in fake impartiality.
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Old 18.12.2020, 14:47
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I think it's utterly naive to assume any news source is genuinely impartial.

As an intelligent reader you need to read up on the story from different perspectives and form your own conclusion.

I would rather read a news source with a known bias as then I know which corrective filter to apply, than a news source that drapes itself in fake impartiality.
I do not think it is possible to drape oneself in fake impartiality, unless you cater to the audience who looks for exactly that. But who would want to consume that kind of data..seriously.
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Old 18.12.2020, 16:18
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I do not think it is possible to drape oneself in fake impartiality, unless you cater to the audience who looks for exactly that. But who would want to consume that kind of data..seriously.
You'd be surprised at the number of people, including people who I consider moderately intelligent, who I've talked to about bias in the media who asked me, "Ok then, what media should I be consuming to get an unbiased view?"
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You'd be surprised at the number of people, including people who I consider moderately intelligent, who I've talked to about bias in the media who asked me, "Ok then, what media should I be consuming to get an unbiased view?"
If critical thinking isn't taught, practiced nor fashionable - you can't expect it to become a priority. If they ask, then it is already a good thing, no?

Then, I am sceptical of media consumption, the readers priority doesn't seem to be to get unbiased info, the media's priority isn't to provide it.

The concept of bias counts on an opinion....any. The existence of it. I think people consume media and partake on generating discussions for other reasons.
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It is the responsibility of news agencies to report the news. Too often, these days, they appear to think they need to make the news.
Sadly, yes, I think it's true. Hence I'm not really surprised when I hear various opinions on various subjects because I know people are fed on certain propaganda and it's not (always) their fault. Not everyone is looking for unbiased reporting and not everyone tries to form their own opinion, or even have any opinions to begin with. Now with internet and everything, the space for manipulations and "fake news" is bigger than ever. Opportunists will prey on their readership/audience's ignorance or naivety.

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It is the responsibility of news agencies to report the news. Too often, these days, they appear to think they need to make the news.
I think they need to make money first and foremost, and that requires making news - increasing and maintaining an audience.
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