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Benedict Arnold was a hero for the British.
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I'm actually not sure I like this. Its not playing the ball. That would be impeachment and/or legal action for what he has done. Sport should be apolitical.
Brands do what they think looks best for the brand, regardless of whether it was politics or something else. Trump makes lots of money from his golf courses and other properties. Inciting a riot and promoting a coup are not usually something any brand wants to be associated with.

It's not much different than when various sponsors dropped their athletes due to less-than-stellar behavior:
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Old 12.01.2021, 20:59
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What will Trump's final legacy be?

Decades/centuries from now, if we're still around, how will people remember him?

I'm thinking he'll be sort of along the same lines as a Benedict Arnold.

What are you, a Donald Trump or something?!
It'll probably be akin to the legacy of Emperor Nero. Not necessarily the cause, but the symbol of decline, debauchery and degeneracy of an empire.

Incidentally, he has still 8 more days to go. When a line is drawn under his legacy, I hope it can moved a few days backwards so that the wanton damage that he and his secretary of state have unleashed recently (or are currently unleashing), to poison the environment for the incoming administration, can be partially undone.
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Old 12.01.2021, 21:19
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Ive seen that the feds are sharing photos of the riot/failed coup participants online, asking for help to identify them.

Doesn't the US security apparatus have facial recognition tech.? Have these people never had an image of their face posted online before? I could understand if maybe it wasn't like in Beijing where supposedly they could find nearly anyone in the city in under an hour, but can't they just scan the web?
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Old 12.01.2021, 21:29
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Ive seen that the feds are sharing photos of the riot/failed coup participants online, asking for help to identify them.

Doesn't the US security apparatus have facial recognition tech.? Have these people never had an image of their face posted online before? I could understand if maybe it wasn't like in Beijing where supposedly they could find nearly anyone in the city in under an hour, but can't they just scan the web?
I think they can and do, but would like some insider tips from friends and acquaintances just in case. One of my friends is super paranoid about the deep state and such and doesn't have any photos posted on public websites that I know about. He's never been arrested, so no mug shots anywhere. He doesn't have a passport, so I don't think there's biometric data.

He has FB but never posts a pic with his face. It's always an image of his back where he's looking out at the scenery or a pic of the dog or whatever. If the FBI wanted to identify him, they'd probably need help. Then again he's a pacifist so he'd not be at such an event anyway except as a counter-protester.

In this case itseems the FBI doesn't need much help. Plenty of these individuals posted on social media before and during and their faces are all over various sites.
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That's nothing fundamentally new, Deutsche has been reducing their exposure to Trump for years.

Not that long ago, maybe one year, they sold part of the debt on to some Russian entity. I believe you posted on that, and more than once.
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Old 12.01.2021, 23:46
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I think they can and do, but would like some insider tips from friends and acquaintances just in case. One of my friends is super paranoid about the deep state and such and doesn't have any photos posted on public websites that I know about. He's never been arrested, so no mug shots anywhere. He doesn't have a passport, so I don't think there's biometric data.

He has FB but never posts a pic with his face. It's always an image of his back where he's looking out at the scenery or a pic of the dog or whatever. If the FBI wanted to identify him, they'd probably need help. Then again he's a pacifist so he'd not be at such an event anyway except as a counter-protester.

In this case itseems the FBI doesn't need much help. Plenty of these individuals posted on social media before and during and their faces are all over various sites.
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It's true, though, that social media is a mass surveillance system, and people feed their information right into it. They're being programmed to sacrifice their privacy in exchange for "likes" and attention, basically. People use to value their privacy, but now they value attention instead.
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Old 12.01.2021, 23:56
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Ive seen that the feds are sharing photos of the riot/failed coup participants online, asking for help to identify them.

Doesn't the US security apparatus have facial recognition tech.? Have these people never had an image of their face posted online before? I could understand if maybe it wasn't like in Beijing where supposedly they could find nearly anyone in the city in under an hour, but can't they just scan the web?
I read somewhere that two of the protestors were identified from their photos by their ex-wives
So even if your photos are not somewhere on the web it does not mean you are anonymous.
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Watching the ITV News documentary- truly scary. And shows clearly the Police and the President knew exactly what was going to happen.Via Parler and other sites.
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Old 13.01.2021, 10:51
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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National Guardsmen protecting Capitol armed with lethal weapons.
The move is in response to fears that armed militias might attack.

I hope they all stay loyal. Usually, politicians avoid bringing armed military into their own capital cities in case they are tempted to make a takeover. The more paranoid have their own loyal military group, think the Praetorian Guard.
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Old 13.01.2021, 14:58
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Tarnished by last week’s riot at the Capitol, Donald Trump is ending his presidency with his lowest-ever poll numbers.

A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll pegs Trump’s approval at just 34 percent, the lowest in four years of tracking opinions of the president’s job performance.

Quinnipiac University has Trump’s approval at 33%

Of course, polls are not so reliable these days.
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Of course, polls are not so reliable these days.
I suspect that if you asked 100 people if they agreed with that, less than 22.5% would agree.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The US House of Representatives has just formally voted to impeach Trump for a second time. The margin was 35 votes, 232–197, with five abstentions. Seven Republicans had said that they would vote for impeachment, but in the end 10 joined the Democrats to indicate their disapproval of the President.

Those 10 Republicans were:

Rep. Dan Newhouse of Washington
Rep. John Katko of New York
Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington
Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan
Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Rep. Peter Meijer of Michigan
Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina
Rep. David Valadao of California

With the unique distinction of not one, but two impeachments now under his capacious belt, Trump has cemented his position at the bottom of most analysts' rankings of US Presidents.

I think the question posed by this thread's title has been well and truly answered now.
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Tarnished by last week’s riot at the Capitol, Donald Trump is ending his presidency with his lowest-ever poll numbers.

A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll pegs Trump’s approval at just 34 percent, the lowest in four years of tracking opinions of the president’s job performance.

Quinnipiac University has Trump’s approval at 33%

Of course, polls are not so reliable these days.
I'm amazed how high that figure is. It's pretty typical for a leader of a western democracy.
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National Guardsmen protecting Capitol armed with lethal weapons.
Nothing new, the security personnel on site Jan 6 included what looked like snipers, you may want to re-watch the footage. They're just no use for ordinary crowd control.
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I'm amazed how high that figure is. It's pretty typical for a leader of a western democracy.
Debateable. In any event it's very low for any sitting US president.
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I'm amazed how high that figure is. It's pretty typical for a leader of a western democracy.
Partisanship; two-party system in the US.
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Ever new stories in the collapsing Trump world

Snapchat plans to permanently ban President Trump’s account from the social media platform once President-elect Joe Biden takes office later this month, a Snapchat spokesperson confirmed.

The acting director for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is resigning just two weeks after taking on the role, an agency official confirmed.

The Census Bureau’s director put an indefinite stop to an effort to gather data on U.S. residents' citizenship status Wednesday, interrupting Trump's plans to use the information when drawing House districts.
Trump had reportedly been pushing the Census Bureau to finalize a document that would fulfill Executive Order 13880, which would exclude undocumented residents from the count that determines how many seats each state gets in Congress for the next decade.

Trump's promised $200 drug-discount cards won't happen.

New York City will sever all public contracts (worth $17 million annually) with the Trump Organization, Mayor Bill de Blasio announced Wednesday morning, charging that President Donald Trump incited a mob to attack Congress.

Koch network pledges to 'weigh heavy' lawmakers' actions in riots when determining donations.

It is claimed Trump has told staff not to pay Rudy Giuliani over irritation at being impeached again. I thought Rudy was doing it "pro bono"?
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National Guardsmen protecting Capitol armed with lethal weapons.
The move is in response to fears that armed militias might attack.

I hope they all stay loyal. Usually, politicians avoid bringing armed military into their own capital cities in case they are tempted to make a takeover. The more paranoid have their own loyal military group, think the Praetorian Guard.
Seems my concerns were not so wide off the mark

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One of the two Virginia police officers arrested Wednesday in connection with last week’s deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol is a current member of the Virginia National Guard, officials confirmed Thursday.

Jacob Fracker has been charged with one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority and one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds. The Virginia National Guard said Thursday that he is a corporal in the Virginia Guard.

He is not currently on duty with Virginia National Guard troops in Washington, D.C.,
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