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Old 22.01.2017, 16:17
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Privatisation.
Presumably that is why he is getting so much cr#p from the National Park service and had to forbid them from tweeting.

If you had spent your life and career preserving national beauty then you would hardly kiss the hand of the man who plans to sell it off for development!
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Old 22.01.2017, 16:21
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..and that is my point: when/if it happens, how will he cope emotionally? He is not a professional politician and I don't think he knows how to smooth the way with congress, charm the in-house people. He can't work in a vacuum and can't tweet his problems away. He doesn't strike me as a man who can emotionally cope without solid control.

The lack of scrutiny, which has been the norm up to now, will become a huge issue.
Its all speculation until we see specifics. Its the job of congress to represent the interests of their constituents. They should oppose when it does meet their interests. So where he is wrong, he should definitely encounter a fight.

I think I despise US partisan politics more than Trump. From his position at the centre, he has a lot of opportunity to dispense poison pills. There are many things he will be able to bully through.

If we were to agree that we despise them all, then I would simply look for positive changes for the US and its people. Focusing only on discrediting Trump can quickly become counter-productive.
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Old 22.01.2017, 16:33
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A peaceful and full of energy group including all colors, ages, genders, and nationalities. Unlike the inauguration, there were no riots and no incidents (which are disgraceful). Even the police honked, smiled, and waved at the marching crowd. Several people, our group included, shook the hands of several police officers and thanked them for their thankless efforts.

The America I love was on the streets of Washington DC yesterday. This is what a majority looks like, electoral colleges notwithstanding.

Pussy hats and funny signs are just that. I hope that the momentum of this historic march will get people out of their comfort zones and up from their armchairs, will get all of us focused on what truly matters rather than the smokescreens, and make us more engaged citizens.
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Old 22.01.2017, 16:46
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?





http://freepress.org/article/yes-dubya-now-i-miss-you
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Old 22.01.2017, 16:46
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The America I love was on the streets of Washington DC yesterday. This is what a majority looks like, electoral colleges notwithstanding.
Were they pro-Trump? He is the one who has majority.

Just sayin'
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Old 22.01.2017, 16:59
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Were they pro-Trump? He is the one who has majority.

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He won the election, he does not have the majority.
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Old 22.01.2017, 17:31
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I've seen better deliveries from a primary school play:


http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/21/medi...ent/index.html
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Were they pro-Trump? He is the one who has majority.

Just sayin'
It depends how you define majority. If you define it as the greater number of popular votes, representing the direct will of the people - as I was suggesting in my post - then no, he does not have it now and he did not have it when he was elected.

What he did have, was more electoral colleges votes. Personal opinion, but I do not think that electoral colleges are necessarily the best representation of the will of people - not now, not before this election.

Just sayin'
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Old 22.01.2017, 18:01
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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...All his big domestic ideas need money, and where is it going to come from?
Haven't you been paying attention? Trump and Congress are going to cut corporate taxes and taxes on the wealthy. This will in turn "release the pent-up energy" in the markets and create lots of jobs, which create lots of spending, which then not only replenishes the money from tax cuts but surpasses it. Hey, presto! (see also: Louisiana under Jindal and Kansas under Brownback for how terrific a plan this is).

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... I hope that the momentum of this historic march will get people out of their comfort zones and up from their armchairs, will get all of us focused on what truly matters rather than the smokescreens, and make us more engaged citizens.
I'd like to think so, but I'm realistic enough to know that this is probably going to be short-lived. Too few people run for local offices and get engaged in their communities. I think my hometown has a population of about 12,000 right now. In the last mayor/town council election I think the total votes cast was maybe 10-15% of the voting-age population.

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I've seen better deliveries from a primary school play:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/21/medi...ent/index.html
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[Spicer] tellingly led off his short statement with his tirade against the media, leaving announcements about phone calls with the leaders of Canada and Mexico, and announcing that Trump would meet with British Prime Minister Theresa May, to the end.

During those announcements, Spicer incorrectly referred to Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto as "prime minister."
Oh that bodes well. The spokesman for the President of the USA doesn't even know the difference between a president and a prime minister.
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Old 22.01.2017, 18:03
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What he did have, was more electoral colleges votes. Personal opinion, but I do not think that electoral colleges are necessarily the best representation of the will of people - not now, not before this election.

Just sayin'
Works that way in CH as well.

Just saying.

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Old 22.01.2017, 18:04
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Why is this thread going around in circles?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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He won the election, he does not have the majority.
The majority has nothing to do with being elected, as in most countries.

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Old 22.01.2017, 18:05
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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It depends how you define majority. If you define it as the greater number of popular votes, representing the direct will of the people - as I was suggesting in my post - then no, he does not have it now and he did not have it when he was elected.

What he did have, was more electoral colleges votes. Personal opinion, but I do not think that electoral colleges are necessarily the best representation of the will of people - not now, not before this election.

Just sayin'

Thanks for your opinion. I think what matters and will matter next few years is who actually won. Again, my view is personal, winning the election has more effect on the country than holding the majority as you defined it.

If winning the election had a lesser effect, I doubt there would be reason to get together with pink hats.
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Old 22.01.2017, 18:11
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

We also need to be mindful of the fact that many Americans, across the spectrum, did not want another Clinton in office. Which is another major reason why Trump is where he is.

The results of a perfect political storm.

Storms tend to go in circles
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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The majority has nothing to do with being elected, as in most countries.

Tom
I know, which is why I wrote that he won the election. But it's incorrect to say he had the majority.

Something the big D might want to bear in mind.
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Old 22.01.2017, 18:26
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Why is this thread going around in circles?

Because we are the EF
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Old 22.01.2017, 18:38
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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It depends how you define majority. If you define it as the greater number of popular votes, representing the direct will of the people - as I was suggesting in my post - then no, he does not have it now and he did not have it when he was elected.

What he did have, was more electoral colleges votes. Personal opinion, but I do not think that electoral colleges are necessarily the best representation of the will of people - not now, not before this election.

Just sayin'
Out of curiousity, what percentage of the marchers were white women, and how does that jibe with the estimate that 53% of white women voted for Trump?

So realistically, not everyone at the Women's march were anti-Trump. Okay, maybe some are just regrettable, shy or just thought it would make for a nice Sunday outing, right?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Well, DC did not vote for DT, so hanging out at that event was probably something logical: put a feminist hat on, eat some muffins and shout some empowering slogans.

No, not everyone was pro Hillary, the one I know checked the event out (out of curiosity), wore no signs of his political beliefs (for safety), and had his mouth shut (smart). Obviously, even these days - there are better and worse moments, when true diversity is less or more welcome.
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Except I tuned it to a speech by an unkempt fat slob talking as if this was his movement...
I saw Sean Spicer too! Sweating like a pig on a spit that lad and white as ghost.

Then up steps KellyAnne Conway (inauguration costume and make-up by Ringling Bros Circus closing down sale) to defend the suckling Spicer with her "alternative facts" debarcle.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pres...-crowd-n710466

Is it any wonder that people with a degree of reasoning and respect for the truth are despairing on Day 2.
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