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He's an erratic flip-flopper.

We'd better get used to it.
Do you think the generation of 6s-attention-span-animated-GIF kids that are growing up right now is going to to be much different?

Most politicians these days are flip-floppers - Trump is just very fast at switching. He's probably too fast for most the voters to actually realize...
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:02
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I'm not confident Europe will be able to react in time. It is not known for its agility and responsiveness in handling a rapidly changing world. I think it would rather try to control the narrative with fake news, take the elitist route, ignore reality and try to suppress it by shaming dissenters. Might work here, it might not, for a while.
Maybe during the fat year of plenty that would have been true.

But I think Europe is changing very quickly. Political change is like an earthquake. Small quakes are good because they reduce tensions and thus prevent big quakes. Europe has done its best to prevent small quakes for a very long time and so its all the more likely that there is a big one coming.

But I think if you look at European history, Europe has always been remarkably good at struggling back to its feet and leaving its past behind it. Maybe better so than the US, where, for example, the wounds of slavery and the Civil War are still not fully healed, more than 150 years later. Maybe this is because essentially in Europe, very little is genuinely set in stone, and because there are so many different streams in history that you can always find one to build on for the future.
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:03
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I know. Which makes all this even sadder.



I didn't realize he's ever made an actual point. And most importantly: stuck with that point for longer than 5 minutes.

He's an erratic flip-flopper. Nothing he says can be taken seriously, I'm afraid. Even if there were some very limited reason in some of his "statements" (or well, his Twitter contributions), it wouldn't matter cause the next day, he'll say something else and then pretend to never have said the other version in the first place.

Ah no come to think of it, there's an exception: he does indeed still want to build a wall towards Mexico...
5 minutes? more like 30 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZpMJeynBeg

even specifically both the allies and china points rainer_d mentioned
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:07
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Any government agency needs to be transparent and accountable and it is the job of politicians to make them accountable. Just because something has become a murky black hole because people have allowed it to is no reason to accept it that way.

Government agencies need to serve the people, not the other way around.

If any information is being withheld, there must be a reason for that (for example, interests of national security, ongoing criminal investigation etc). "I can't be arsed to anwer an email" is not in that category.
Switzerland is open, there is a freedom of information act like the UK and the US (Bundesgesetz über das Öffentlichkeitsprinzip der Verwaltung )

Zürich Kanton even has an example letter here, you just have to fill out the blanks!
I have used the system and it works fine
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:08
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Maybe during the fat year of plenty that would have been true.

But I think Europe is changing very quickly. Political change is like an earthquake. Small quakes are good because they reduce tensions and thus prevent big quakes. Europe has done its best to prevent small quakes for a very long time and so its all the more likely that there is a big one coming.

But I think if you look at European history, Europe has always been remarkably good at struggling back to its feet and leaving its past behind it. Maybe better so than the US, where, for example, the wounds of slavery and the Civil War are still not fully healed, more than 150 years later. Maybe this is because essentially in Europe, very little is genuinely set in stone, and because there are so many different streams in history that you can always find one to build on for the future.
Added to this, people make the mistake of assuming "Europe" is just one homogeneous blob of land. It's a melting pot of different cultures, political set ups and languages, not to mention currencies and wealths; probably why the EU has turned into a hopeless herding of cats scenario now that its member states are so numerous and diverse.

You can't compare it to the US to any meaningful level.
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:09
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I wonder what proportion of the people who marched on Saturday will show up to vote in the midterms.
I assume that depends on who the Democrats select as their candidate?
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:24
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Ah no come to think of it, there's an exception: he does indeed still want to build a wall towards Mexico...
I thought it was a wall between Mexico and America. It'll never happen though, the Mexicans are still refusing to pay for it.
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:34
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I wonder what proportion of the people who marched on Saturday will show up to vote in the midterms.
None, no adrelanin-rush in that.

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A US legal watchdog says it will file a lawsuit against President Donald Trump, alleging he is violating a constitutional ban on accepting payments from foreign governments.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38714446
It's normal to have such issues at the beginning, specially in a country like USA where you have to be rich to even run for president. Plus, latest after 8 years the person has to go back to "real life", is the person supposed to have lost all he/she accomplished before?
If he let those people stay for free in the Trump hotel, what would you say then?!

He will have to solve that problem somehow and quickly, probably by signing over such things like these hotels to his children. Those he's not gonna give a political job to, that is.

If people demand Trump to be reasonable, they gotta be reasonable ..... all I see lately is the world bashing Trump on exactly his low level. Yeah, the guy freaks me out but I have no intentions in calling him names.
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:36
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Baker confirms Donald Trump's inauguration cake was copied from Barack Obama's
Many noticed the cake Donald Trump cut at his inauguration ball was remarkably similar to Barack Obama's inauguration cake.

Buttercream Bakeshop, who made the cake for Donald Trump's ball, came forward on Facebook and Instagram, and said they were asked to copy from another design.

It appears that design was Obama's inauguration cake.
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When you consider that the profile picture on Trump's new POTUS twitter account was also copied from Obama's inauguration you start to wonder if Trump's team either hate him or are remarkably inept!
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:36
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Added to this, people make the mistake of assuming "USA" is just one homogeneous blob of land. It's a melting pot of different cultures, political set ups and languages, not to mention currencies and wealths; probably why the USA has turned into a hopeless herding of cats scenario now that its member states are so numerous and diverse.

You can't compare it to the EU to any meaningful level.
FTFY.

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Old 23.01.2017, 12:42
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None, no adrelanin-rush in that.


It's normal to have such issues at the beginning, specially in a country like USA where you have to be rich to even run for president. Plus, latest after 8 years the person has to go back to "real life", is the person supposed to have lost all he/she accomplished before?
If he let those people stay for free in the Trump hotel, what would you say then?!

He will have to solve that problem somehow and quickly, probably by signing over such things like these hotels to his children. Those he's not gonna give a political job to, that is.

If people demand Trump to be reasonable, they gotta be reasonable ..... all I see lately is the world bashing Trump on exactly his low level. Yeah, the guy freaks me out but I have no intentions in calling him names.
Look at other Presidents and candidates "Bill Clinton used blind trusts while he was in office, as did George W. Bush. When Hillary Clinton launched her first presidential run in 2007, she went so far as to liquidating her blind trust to eliminate any investments that might create a problem down the road."

Trump decided not to go down this road so he will earn some legal hassles now and in the future; every decision has its price!
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:48
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I assume that depends on who the Democrats select as their candidate?
Democrats still need to figure out what they are about and propose something of some redeeming value in reality. I don't think sad ass sentiments on their own are really going to win them any seats.
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Old 23.01.2017, 12:56
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Look at other Presidents and candidates "Bill Clinton used blind trusts while he was in office, as did George W. Bush. When Hillary Clinton launched her first presidential run in 2007, she went so far as to liquidating her blind trust to eliminate any investments that might create a problem down the road."

Trump decided not to go down this road so he will earn some legal hassles now and in the future; every decision has its price!

Well, Clinton put Rubin, Summers and Geitner in charge, who laid the foundation for 2008 crisis.

You don't need to be personally invested in something to f-up big time...

But I don't think anybody is really surprised that Trump can't let go of his investments. He's just not "that kind of guy".

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I thought it was a wall between Mexico and America. It'll never happen though, the Mexicans are still refusing to pay for it.
My guess would be though that Americans would still like to vacation in Cabo and Cancun (towards was just my poor use of English, sorry, it is indeed between )

Bloody Mexicans. Refusing to pay. Who do they think they are??
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Old 23.01.2017, 14:09
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5 minutes? more like 30 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZpMJeynBeg

even specifically both the allies and china points rainer_d mentioned
I believe if Trump had gone into the campaign talking like that, in the same manner instead of dumbing down, he wouldn't have the same level of backlash we see now. His interim behaviour would still be a huge bone of contention, but his manner would be more likely to garner a willing ear.
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Next time can't be too soon

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Old 23.01.2017, 14:35
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I know it is childish but anyway


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When you consider that the profile picture on Trump's new POTUS twitter account was also copied from Obama's inauguration you start to wonder if Trump's team either hate him or are remarkably inept!
How long until somebody spots that the oath he swore is also very similar to Obama's?
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Old 23.01.2017, 14:51
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How long until somebody spots that the oath he swore is also very similar to Obama's?
Here's a great one I just noticed as well: He even copied the job title!
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Even his office is the same shape.

And in the same building.
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Old 23.01.2017, 15:06
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Seems people want to demand stupid pet tricks from Trump. It must be a painful enough as it is for him to slum at the White House.

How many days until the next media melt down? I would be disappointed if none this week.
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