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So if the whole outrage about Trump is the taped talk on the bus, it is non-existent. If that is all they have, it is all quite weak as it was all only imagined.

As they keep fighting those imagined issues, meanwhile, he's actually working on real issues.

Sorry, but I don't see that side winning any elections if that is all they have.
Umm, how do you know it was all imagined? When someone says, "This is what I do...", do you think to yourself, "ahh, he's just boasting about sexual assault, I'm sure he's an ok guy otherwise". He admitted he said those things.

And no, that's not all there is, don't deform my argument. I clearly mentioned two other things, which are very much "real", military and geo-politically. Not to mention his treasonous-if-true Russia connections. And his ethics issues concerning his companies. But I'm sure none of that is as "depraved" as Madonna venting on stage.
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Old 23.01.2017, 17:47
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Umm, how do you know it was all imagined? When someone says, "This is what I do...", do you think to yourself, "ahh, he's just boasting about sexual assault, I'm sure he's an ok guy otherwise". He admitted he said those things.

And no, that's not all there is, don't deform my argument. I clearly mentioned two other things, which are very much "real", military and geo-politically. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
He throws these little snippets out, and you pick it up as if it were reality. Have you seen anyone whose P was grabbed? Did he actually torture anyone? Has he taken any oil?

Its all fantasies. Hence I don't really think the left can differentiate between their imagination and reality. Speaking of poor sensibilities, it really is time to get real. You're all falling for that crap, and so have nothing and are empty handed.

They are growing in their own fake news.
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He throws these little snippets out, and you pick it up as if it were reality. Have you seen anyone whose P was grabbed? Did he actually torture anyone? Has he taken any oil?

Its all fantasies. Hence I don't really think the left can differentiate between their imagination and reality. Speaking of poor sensibilities, it really is time to get real. You're all falling for that crap, and so have nothing and are empty handed.

They are growing in their own fake news.
Guy says he's gonna do things, gets elected to a position where he'll have the power to do them, yet people's apprehensions are "fantasies". Phos makes some vague diagnoses about the supposed pathology of the left, uses Madonna as an example, yet he's keeping it real and focusing on the real issues. GTFOOHWTBS.
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Old 23.01.2017, 18:10
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He throws these little snippets out, and you pick it up as if it were reality. Have you seen anyone whose P was grabbed? Did he actually torture anyone? Has he taken any oil?

Its all fantasies. Hence I don't really think the left can differentiate between their imagination and reality. Speaking of poor sensibilities, it really is time to get real. You're all falling for that crap, and so have nothing and are empty handed.

They are growing in their own fake news.
Why bother when Trump provides plenty of his own.

Here we go

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38721056
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Old 23.01.2017, 18:18
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It seems to me Trump thrives from such contests. The man seems to love it.
I'd love to see Trump ignored. Sure, report on his policies and his agendas, but overall, ignore the man himself. It is like when a toddler is crying and screaming but no one pays attention. Eventually the child gets bored and shuts up.

I hope that one day Trump will stop grandstanding and actually play the part of President of the United States with the respect that the position deserves.
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Old 23.01.2017, 18:25
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Why bother when Trump provides plenty of his own.

Here we go

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38721056
Ah, so Trump is pulling the US out of the TPP by Executive Order. Didn't Phos (who must be really close to Trump) inform us just recently that Trump was going to work with Congress on all major issues, and not do things unilaterally, thereby making it extremely difficult for any future administration to undo the marvellous changes he will wreak?

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Old 23.01.2017, 18:25
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He throws these little snippets out, and you pick it up as if it were reality. Have you seen anyone whose P was grabbed? Did he actually torture anyone? Has he taken any oil?

Its all fantasies. Hence I don't really think the left can differentiate between their imagination and reality. Speaking of poor sensibilities, it really is time to get real. You're all falling for that crap, and so have nothing and are empty handed.

They are growing in their own fake news.
So your defence of Trump is that he is a Pathological liar and we should ignore everything he says; strange line of argument?
Sad state of affairs!

Or we should have some sort of crystal ball to consult to determine which are lies and which not?

To help us this site has 26 pages of Trump statements with an indication of which are lies, half lies and truth.
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Old 23.01.2017, 18:41
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Lordy, Lordy, rent a mob in action!!

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Authorities are pushing back against the perception that the CIA workforce was cheering for the president.
They say the first three rows in front of the president were largely made up of supporters of Mr. Trump’s campaign. [not CIA people]

An official with knowledge of the make-up of the crowd says that there were about 40 people who’d been invited by the Trump, Mike Pence and Rep. Mike Pompeo teams
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"The Trump team expected Rep. Pompeo, R-Kansas, to be sworn in during the event as the next CIA director, but the vote to confirm him was delayed on Friday by Senate Democrats. "
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Ah, so Trump is pulling the US out of the TPP by Executive Order. Didn't Phos (who must be really close to Trump) inform us just recently that Trump was going to work with Congress on all major issues, and not do things unilaterally, thereby making it extremely difficult for any future administration to undo the marvellous changes he will wreak?
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That is because Obama acted on his own instead of building political consensus, hence many things he's done is erasable. Furthermore, Trump's agenda will be enacted by Congress, which is much, much more difficult to undo.
And so the totalitarianism begins.

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And so the totalitarianism begins.
But it's going to be the best totalitarianism... you won't believe how total this itarianism is going to be.
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He throws these little snippets out, and you pick it up as if it were reality. Have you seen anyone whose P was grabbed?
Several women have accused Trump of sexual assault and at least one is suing him. I don't know exactly which parts of their anatomy he grabbed, in these cases. Does it matter?

Are you saying that it's perfectly OK for the President of the US to make up "braggadocious" (or whatever that ridiculous American word was) lies (as you seem to think they are), as long as nobody believes them?
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Are you saying that it's perfectly OK for the President of the US to make up "braggadocious" (or whatever that ridiculous American word was) lies (as you seem to think they are), as long as nobody believes them?
"braggadocious" is in fact a word in US English, has been for a long time. It was one of the words in "Six Weeks to Words of Power" which we had to read in grade 10 English in Toronto.

I was a bit surprised to hear him use it... I think that is the only time I've heard the word used since grade 10.

Don't give the guy credit for coming up with novel things unless or until he actually has.

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"braggadocious" is in fact a word in US English, has been for a long time.
For the Mary Poppins fans out there.
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He will drive the USA into the abyss

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I'd love to see Trump ignored. Sure, report on his policies and his agendas, but overall, ignore the man himself. It is like when a toddler is crying and screaming but no one pays attention. Eventually the child gets bored and shuts up.
Exactly. But he's fully in line with the times; tweet all day, FB-post every silly detail of their boring lives. It won't be possible to get people to ignore his blabla and reduce him to his job, they're far too sensation horny themselves.

It has also crossed my mind if those tweets - and the mediabashing about nonsense like attendance numbers at the inauguration - is his system to keep the world's attention from what he's really doing. 'Cause let's face it, he has been pretty active since Friday!

I never cared about private stuff of people I don't know personally, I don't have a clue what our "Bundesräte" do in their free time, whether they're married or not etc. etc. Same with musicians who produce the music I listen to. I only care about their products. And I sure wish people would do that with Trump too.
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He will drive the USA into the abyss


WOW, where is this?
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Old 23.01.2017, 21:00
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Ah, so Trump is pulling the US out of the TPP by Executive Order. Didn't Phos (who must be really close to Trump) inform us just recently that Trump was going to work with Congress on all major issues, and not do things unilaterally, thereby making it extremely difficult for any future administration to undo the marvellous changes he will wrought?
Pena Nieto (President of Mexico) says Mexico will immediately seek bilateral deals with TPP countries.

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And if you were wondering why Trump did not go through Congress with this TPP withdrawl - Republican John McCain (senior United States Senator) from Arizona tweeted
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Old 23.01.2017, 21:06
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"braggadocious" is in fact a word in US English, has been for a long time.
Yes, I know. It's exclusively used in the US. (Maybe Canada too, I don't know.) That's why I called it a "ridiculous American word".

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Don't give the guy credit for coming up with novel things unless or until he actually has.
I didn't. And don't worry, I won't.
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Old 23.01.2017, 21:13
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"and his Cabinet confirmations" You mean Cabinet nominations?
So far only two Cabinet confirmations; the Democrats are trying to slow the process but I doubt they will suceed?
No, I meant confirmations. Nary a mention in the media that Trump signed a bill to allow an exception for Mattis so he could join the Cabinet (he's only been retired for 3 years, not the 7 mentioned in law). This was speculated to be a stumbling block for Mattis, as the exception has only been granted once before. Yet Congress rushed it through in no time. I think Trump has been doing some deal-making already - give me my Cabinet and I'll sign some of your legislation I don't really care about one way or another.

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Take out all the subjective bs, innuendo and personal "feelings", and what you have left is a news story about some French nationals trying to enter the country without proper visa's / paperwork, who were subsequently turned away..
I read it as the French nationals were told they would need a visa next time they want to enter the U.S. On what grounds would that be?

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The question is, what is required as a French national to transit between Canada and the US, returning to Canada, and were the CPB agents correct - they do make errors. French nationals shouldn't need a visa to enter the US as a tourist, but I think evidence that they'll be leaving.
I actually think they were worried about some sort of terrorist attack, so the border agents were instructed to record info on and then turn away anyone that could even remotely be disruptive. Why take a chance?

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Seems people want to demand stupid pet tricks from Trump...
The people don't need to demand stupid pet tricks. He supplies them on his own.

And regarding TPP, Trump's action is mostly symbolic. Congress hadn't ratified it yet anyway. But WIN WIN look at me WIIIIIIIN!

Anyone notice how close Pence and Priebus are standing to Trump as he signs the orders, and watching every pen stroke? It's like they're worried about what he'll say or that he'll forget what he's doing in the middle of his signature.
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"40 Years Ago To The Day, ‘Doctor Who’ Predicted ‘Alternative Facts’"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b070d8cad3b0e1

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