I think Spicer has been listening to Father Ted..

Yuuuuugely significant correction, thanks for that. In most people's world (not Trump's), facts are truths.

Yes, I read all the posts in this thread (just caught up with them all). Does that now change the facts into alternative facts?

no. maybe read it again

Best comment I've heard on this topic "If men were the ones actually getting pregnant, we'd be having abortion clinics like ATM machines."

Gosh, he really, REALLY hates to lose in any form doesn't he.

"Republicans have admonished President Donald Trump after he repeated his unsubstantiated claims about voter fraud in November's US election.

Mr Trump told congressional leaders at a reception on Monday that millions of undocumented immigrants had voted illegally for Hillary Clinton.

But Senator Lindsey Graham called the comments "inappropriate", adding that Mr Trump should "knock this off".

House Speaker Paul Ryan also said there was no evidence to support his claims.

"I've seen no evidence to that effect. I've made that very, very clear," the Wisconsin Republican told reporters on Tuesday.

During a closed-doors meeting on Monday night, the Republican president regurgitated his incorrect claim that three to five million undocumented immigrants had illegally voted.

Mr Trump has never provided any evidence for the conspiracy theory.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer told reporters on Tuesday the president continued to "maintain that belief based on studies and evidence that people have presented to him".

Mr Spicer did not provide any further details.

The Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, received nearly three million votes more than Mr Trump, who won the presidency by prevailing in key swing states.

Any notion of widespread voter fraud was widely rejected as bogus when Mr Trump made the same claim in November.

Mr Graham, a South Carolina senator, rebuked Mr Trump for his comments, saying they were "the most inappropriate thing for the president to say without proof".

He continued that the president "seems to be obsessed with the idea that he could not have possibly lost the popular vote without cheating and fraud".

"I would urge the president to knock this off," he added.

Republican Pennsylvania Representative Charlie Dent also weighed in, saying Mr Trump needed to move on and "get to the serious business of governing".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38737713

I like the way they used the word "regurgitated". Sounds like Trump all over.

December 2016

The Army Corps of Engineers has denied a permit for the construction of a key section of the Dakota Access Pipeline.

https://www.army.mil/article/179095/...eline_crossing

And just in case anyone missed it:

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...iotic-devotion

To be fair: http://www.snopes.com/2017/01/23/tru...-devotion-day/

Ahh, you are practising irony

Sorry but that is not a good example!

Try Trump via Spicer: This is a whole basket full of of huge green apples.

Old news, which won't stop the construction.

Only too true BokerTov. There'd be one on every street corner, like churches.

As I said a few pages back, the Rs are holding the cards in the hand and will dump Trump as soon as they think he's not cooperating properly or he's gone too far off the deep end. At that point the question is whether any Ds will fight against impeachment, since Pence is much further to the political right.

Here's the Cliff Notes version: Healthcare in the U.S. is inextricably tied to jobs. Most people get their insurance through their employer as a benefit. No job = you're a lazy loser and don't deserve benefits, especially not paid for with my taxes.

Any other 70 year old making such wild statements would be quietly locked away somewhere

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38737713

He continues with evidence no one else has seen.

I think he has a team of yes men who tell him whatever he wants to hear, maybe writing down numbers and handing it to him on a piece of paper with a header on it so he thinks it official.

EDIT : Acting on a hunch, I think I found the evidence he's citing, but it turns out that the idiots who cited it, cited the wrong website, votefraud.org, that website now redirects to a page that debunk the claims. http://electionnightgatekeepers.com/...llary-clinton/

What hunch? I just searched prisonplanet mentions

It's just a crazy notion that access to adequate healthcare is seen as a benefit. Then again, I grew up with the NHS, so I never knew any different till I came here.

Additionally, I increasingly see the belief that the size of the pie is fixed, or even shrinking, and the fear that any portion of the pie you give to Them you might take away from me.

The Powers That Be (I won't say republicans or democrats as the ruling elite on both sides are much of a muchness) have played the Us vs Them game so successfully over the years that you see people voting against their own interests.

An accident of history:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=114045132

So the wall would be built after all.

But even here, if you cant afford to pay health insurance at least the state will cover that cost. In Murica if you can't afford, then you just plain don't get!

So what usually happens when you retire? Does the employer still pay?

Isn't that when Medicaid (or is it Medicare) kicks in?