Will Trump be a Good President? - Page 14

Urs Max · #**261** 11.11.2016, 14:22

	Quote:	Samaire13
	How do you figure?

Both parliament and the courts do Putin's bidding. Not so (at least, to a much lesser extent) in the US.

st2lemans · #**262** 11.11.2016, 14:32

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Both parliament and the courts do Putin's bidding. Not so (at least, to a much lesser extent) in the US.

Precisely.

Tom

3Wishes · #**263** 11.11.2016, 14:32

I guess even outsiders need insiders in order to get the ball rolling.

So much for draining the swamp completely, but if even a small amount is drained it would help a lot.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/10/po...amp/index.html

NomadAmericano · #**264** 11.11.2016, 14:34

	Quote:	amogles
	They were saying that after a Brexit, a Trump victory, and the rise to power of far right parties in the Netherlands, France and Austria now all foregone conclusions (yeah, they actually said that), and the fools and populsits already controlling most of eastern and southern Europe, that Germany must brace itself to be the only democratic country still standing on the continent. This is why it needs strong leadership and this is why Merkel needs to stay.

This sounds like straight-up propaganda coming from the German government.

omtatsat · #**265** 11.11.2016, 14:35

I think people are suffering now from PET

Reb77Br · #**266** 11.11.2016, 14:50

Post-election racism
Racist Outbursts in U.S. in Wake of Trump's Election

Blueangel · #**267** 11.11.2016, 14:58

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Crying over an election result is only slightly less worse than crying over a football match.

Come on Loz! Odile was refering to a 7yr old child.

Whether we like it or not, a 7yr old begins to get a good grasp of the World outside of the home. I remember my parents watching the Munich Olympics hostage situation on live tv just as one of the hostages was shot. They didn't know that was going to happen whilst I was in the room. I was 7 and really upset by this, so my parents had to sit me down and explain what was going on and that it was a long way away.

Odile's granddaughter feels what she feels. She's probably seen enough in the media to come to her own conclusion about Trump. You might have seen that with your own kids, but the issue is, how do we explain to kids that it isn't alright to behave as the President elect has behaved.

greenmount · #**268** 11.11.2016, 15:00

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	Post-election racism Racist Outbursts in U.S. in Wake of Trump's Election

Yeah. We have to love the results of Trump, Brexit etc. Nothing better than idiots feeling empowered. Poor little people, they were ripped off of their rights to shout racist abuse before...They have it now! Probably they only thing they will have anyway, so let's be happy for them.

I just wonder if this is OK now, what's next. Because of course, history never repeats itself.

marton · #**269** 11.11.2016, 15:08

	Quote:	3Wishes
	I guess even outsiders need insiders in order to get the ball rolling. So much for draining the swamp completely, but if even a small amount is drained it would help a lot. http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/10/po...amp/index.html

Will be interesting to see if he really walks the talk

So far not looking good...

Of course the safest route for his presidency is to stick with the same old people but that means forgetting most of his campaign rhetoric

NomadAmericano · #**270** 11.11.2016, 15:08

	Quote:	TobiasM
	I just wonder how long it will take before those pistol toting yeehaw cowboys realize that they were sold a bunch of lies, while their illustrious leader elect is off in St Andrews playing a few rounds of golf and grabbing poor wee Scots lasses pussies. Like Brexit they'll regret it soon enough. Thankfully Tronald Dump prefers money to war, so I hope we are safe from itchy red button fingers

I'd support your comment if you laid off the whole "cowboy" stereotype. It's boring and thoughtless.

NomadAmericano · #**271** 11.11.2016, 15:13

	Quote:	olygirl
	The right-wing has got what it wanted. Now they'll have to deal with it.

Trump wasn't elected by the right-wing. You should brush up on your US politics knowledge to understand what "right" means in the US. There's nothing, and I mean nothing, conservative about Trump.

He was elected because he won previously-Democratic, mid-western states, states and even counties that had previously gone to Obama.

marton · #**272** 11.11.2016, 15:13

	Quote:	JagWaugh
	I'm guessing you can substantiate that claim.

You get the EF optimist of the year award

#**273** 11.11.2016, 15:15

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Come on Loz! Odile was refering to a 7yr old child. Whether we like it or not, a 7yr old begins to get a good grasp of the World outside of the home. I remember my parents watching the Munich Olympics hostage situation on live tv just as one of the hostages was shot. They didn't know that was going to happen whilst I was in the room. I was 7 and really upset by this, so my parents had to sit me down and explain what was going on and that it was a long way away. Odile's granddaughter feels what she feels. She's probably seen enough in the media to come to her own conclusion about Trump. You might have seen that with your own kids, but the issue is, how do we explain to kids that it isn't alright to behave as the President elect has behaved.

I was referring to the parents.

omtatsat · #**274** 11.11.2016, 15:17

They say Trump is anti establishment. He does not look or live like a person who is anti establishment

Blueangel · #**275** 11.11.2016, 15:17

	Quote:
	Trump claims (and nobody disputes this) that he's never met Putin. As far as I've heard and read, he's only ever spoken to Putin once, when the latter called him to congratulate him on his election. That doesn't make for much of a relationship.

I was shocked to hear that yesterday was the first time Trump and Obama have ever met.

	Quote:	Urs Max
	To be fair, the Trump Taj Mahal has been owned by Carl Icahn since 2014. DT no longer is involved with it, the only connection is in the name which is "rented" by Icahn.

All of which will have to come to an end because of Presidential conflict on interest?

	Quote:
	Brand Trump: Conflict of interest for tycoon-turned-President? Some are asking if the billionaire tycoon can put his business interests out of his mind while serving as commander-in-chief.

http://news.sky.com/story/brand-trum...ident-10651539

	Quote:
	Trump’s conflicts of interest are without precedent in American presidential history

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ntial-history/

#**276** 11.11.2016, 15:20

I have a feeling he will serve roughly half his term then have to surrender power due to "health reasons".

#**277** 11.11.2016, 15:23

	Quote:	Samaire13
	True. She would have won in any direct democracy, really. Which the US is not (or only in parts). Most countries aren't. Some would say only one country really is, the one most EFers are living in. And some would even argue the US is not a democracy at all.

I was explaining the First Past the Post UK system to French and Swiss friends the other day - and that in the 40 years I lived in the UK, I voted for each election knowing full well at the time that my vote woud go straight into the bin, because of the Constituency (ies) I lived in. They were aghast. When I explained about the House of Lords.... they reply was indeed 'surely you can't possibly call THAT democracy!!!

NomadAmericano · #**278** 11.11.2016, 15:24

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	Post-election racism Racist Outbursts in U.S. in Wake of Trump's Election

98-100% of that is fake. E.g., ABC news.

There's an epidemic of false so-called hate crime reports in the US right now.

JagWaugh · #**279** 11.11.2016, 15:24

So, CNN has been covering Trump, and his inconsistencies, and his plans, and even pretended to understand that they completely misjudged what would happen at the voting booth, and praising the constitution, and shunning the riots and violence, while pointing out that Trump's two Tweets about the riots are not very "presidential".

They even showed the cute picture of Hillary out hiking.

Interestingly, although the undertone is that the nation is teetering on the edge of revolt, nobody has yet asked why Clinton, or Obama haven't stepped up to the microphone and spoken out against the riots.

#**280** 11.11.2016, 15:24

	Quote:
	I have a feeling he will serve roughly half his term then have to surrender power due to "health reasons".

Yep- he wanted to WIN - he is not interested, and perhaps even terrified and knows he is totally out of his depth- to govern.