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Old 25.01.2017, 14:41
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Of course. In this case, the ass in the White House is against abortion. Such is life. So what's your point?

Did you just disqualify your own argument?
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Old 25.01.2017, 14:43
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Of course. In this case, the ass in the White House is against abortion. Such is life. So what's your point?
You just made it.
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Old 25.01.2017, 14:45
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Trump comes from the same baby boomer generation as Woodstock and all that. By the 1970s, most of his generation gave up on political activism and resorted to self-indulgence. Many went into finance. He went into building.

You ought to get an idea of what New York City was like in 1970s. Rows and rows of dilapidated buildings. Trump became very adept at renovating dilapited buildings, using other people's money, and turning it around in value.

Trump pioneered gentrification. He's repeated the process over and over again. It did amazing things for New York City that Americans are quite aware of.

Trump is in the process of gentrifying the US. That is what he was voted in for.
Gentrification is a way of pushing up housing costs for everybody, if you own enough property, it's great, for the vast majority it means ever increasing amounts of your money going to housing.
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Old 25.01.2017, 14:47
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most smuggled narcotics come through at the borders in with imports or from the sea via other channels.
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Old 25.01.2017, 15:01
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Did you just disqualify your own argument?
That was just a statement of fact.


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Gentrification is a way of pushing up housing costs for everybody, if you own enough property, it's great, for the vast majority it means ever increasing amounts of your money going to housing.
It elevates the quality of life in that area,increases the economy and tax revenue, improving infrastructure and public services, which in turn spills into adjacent area. The alternative is simply a downward decay.
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Old 25.01.2017, 15:05
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You really think that wall will keep out the smugglers? Most smuggled narcotics come through at the borders in with imports or from the sea via other channels. There are enough Mexicans legally in the US with connections to organized crime as there are other Latin, Black and White people too.

I fail to see how a wall will be an improvement on the Arizona desert for example, just a huge waste of American tax dollars for a political promise.

Tackling poverty and the need to resort to easy drug money and to drug addiction might be a better, although more liberal solution to the problem and far too sensible an idea for most Trump supporters to believe in.

The number of illegal border jumpers is probably quite slim, compared to other routes into the US. http://www.pewhispanic.org/2006/05/2...nt-population/
I don't think it can completely stop it, but it can certainly curtail it. I see the Wall as mainly symbolic, meaning the country is serious about its national security.

Sure there are competing theories on how to deal with the "carnage". There is nothing new there. We've had such ideas for decades. Although nobody has ever done anything about it. Take the history of Chicago for instance.

The difference here is that someone is actually and finally doing something about it.
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Old 25.01.2017, 15:06
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That was just a statement of fact.




It elevates the quality of life in that area,increases the economy and tax revenue, improving infrastructure and public services, which in turn spills into adjacent area. The alternative is simply a downward decay.
It makes nice houses, but cripples local economies, because everyone has to spend all their money on a place to live. It's one of the driving reasons I moved away from the UK and won't move back till they fix the difference between housing and wages.
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Old 25.01.2017, 15:11
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It makes nice houses, but cripples local economies, because everyone has to spend all their money on a place to live. It's one of the driving reasons I moved away from the UK and won't move back till they fix the difference between housing and wages.
In the case of the US today, its not simply residential housing that will be renovated, but infrastructure (e.g., roads, tunnels, bridges, airports, services, walls, etc.).
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Old 25.01.2017, 15:14
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I don't think it can completely stop it, but it can certainly curtail it. I see the Wall as mainly symbolic, meaning the country is serious about its national security.
Do you lot wear blinkers the whole time?

For every one American killed by an act of terror in the United States or abroad in 2014, for example, more than 1,049 died because of guns.

At least Obama had the guts to do something about that.

You all call yourselves Christians (yes, that's you Phos) but with Obamacare, he gave everyone the chance to avail of medical care.
What happened to Christian charity? Or is the bible just something you can use to control your wives and daughters?

I haven't posted on this thread but when I see some of the absolute tosh I read... I really wonder....
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Old 25.01.2017, 15:16
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In the case of the US today, its not simply residential housing that will be renovated, but infrastructure (e.g., roads, tunnels, bridges, airports, services, walls, etc.).
Roads,tunnels, and bridges are useless if you can't afford a car because you give all your money to your landlord for a roof over your head.
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Effectiveness, efficiency and management of finances and resources.
Why do I have to keep saying this to you? That is ONE...note to Phos...ONE aspect of the role of President. It's like employing someone to be a commercial pilot because they "like to travel".
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Old 25.01.2017, 15:18
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You all call yourselves Christians (yes, that's you Phos) but with Obamacare, he gave everyone the chance to avail of medical care.
What happened to Christian charity? Or is the bible just something you can use to control your wives and daughters?

I haven't posted on this thread but when I see some of the absolute tosh I read... I really wonder....
What you call absolute tosh is unfolding before us.

Nobody has a problem with everyone having healthcare. The problem with Obamacare is that coerced people into choices they did not want to take. Now they are stuck with premiums that are skyrocketing and can't afford.

Christians don't express their charity and generosity through politics and governments. We do it out of our own pockets.
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Do you lot wear blinkers the whole time?

For every one American killed by an act of terror in the United States or abroad in 2014, for example, more than 1,049 died because of guns.

At least Obama had the guts to do something about that.

You all call yourselves Christians (yes, that's you Phos) but with Obamacare, he gave everyone the chance to avail of medical care.
What happened to Christian charity? Or is the bible just something you can use to control your wives and daughters?

I haven't posted on this thread but when I see some of the absolute tosh I read... I really wonder....
TBH, Obamacare was a gift to the insurance companies. They even wrote the legislation.

This coming from a non-christian american who supports socialized health care but not Obama or Obamacare..
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Old 25.01.2017, 15:19
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TBH, Obamacare was a gift to the insurance companies. They even wrote the legislation.

This coming from a non-christian american who supports socialized health care but not Obama or Obamacare..
Hang on, that doesn't sound rabid and sensational at all.
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You all call yourselves Christians (yes, that's you Phos) but with Obamacare, he gave everyone the chance to avail of medical care.
What happened to Christian charity? Or is the bible just something you can use to control your wives and daughters?
I always like to imagine Phos's comments here as one of those Memes where it's a picture of Jesus, and you just caption Phos's comments in them.
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I always like to imagine Phos's comments here as one of those Memes where it's a picture of Jesus, and you just caption Phos's comments in them.
Yes, thats clear. I also imagine Trump must be a huge butt hurt.
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In the case of the US today, its not simply residential housing that will be renovated, but infrastructure (e.g., roads, tunnels, bridges, airports, services, walls, etc.).
As mentioned earlier, there is not enough money to fix the infrastructure. Maybe Trump has a cunning plan for the US to declare bankruptcy and walk away from these debts.
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As mentioned earlier, there is not enough money to fix the infrastructure. Maybe Trump has a cunning plan for the US to declare bankruptcy and walk away from these debts.
They certainly do. Some projects are semi-privatized, some might even be privatized completely, as some have revenue streams.

I imagine he would have to devalue the dollar considerable.
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As mentioned earlier, there is not enough money to fix the infrastructure. Maybe Trump has a cunning plan for the US to declare bankruptcy and walk away from these debts.
$773.5 billion military budget this year - but Trump is going to cut gov't spending in every area but that, and Americans won't say a thing
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Yes, thats clear. I also imagine Trump must be a huge butt hurt.
Oooo! For Farage...yes
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