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On the other hand the KKK, the whole segregation issue, slavery (Southern Baptists anybody) have all claimed strong christian religous support.
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When six Scottish-American former Confederate officers formed a fraternal society, clan turned to Klan.The oldest and most feared racist hate group in America - the Ku Klux Klan - was born. Now, well over 800 hate groups stalk the United States, and Neil finishes his journey by visiting the Neo-Confederate League of the South.
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Isn't Neil Oliver supposed to be prising limpets off rock pools and chasing otters somewhere along the Scottish coast?
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He was asking me a personal question. Would you like me to tell you what someone else thinks?
Who is he?

Which question?
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Old 25.01.2017, 17:16
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Not anywhere where I've ever lived.

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Given that you've lived everywhere and done everything, I'm shocked to hear you haven't lived in San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Santa Fé, etc.
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Old 25.01.2017, 17:20
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Isn't Neil Oliver supposed to be prising limpets off rock pools and chasing otters somewhere along the Scottish coast?
He can chase my otter anytime he likes
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Old 25.01.2017, 17:27
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Yes, but that's highly regionally dependent. That won't happen in the north-east, or the west coast, but head out to the bible-belt, and that's what you get.

Tom
I used to work on the West coast on and off (Bay area) and I got it everyday. I never ever mentioned any religious orientation but I still got Christianity drilled into me everyday by all and sundry as I mentioned I wasn't a regular church goer.

I once mentioned evolution in a taxi in Oakland one night and believe I was lucky to get out of the taxi without injury.
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...I'm sure he and the goons he had stood behind him for that pathetic photo-call think that women just sleep around getting pregnant and use it as a birth control.
I get the impression that's what most so-called pro-lifers think, unfortunately.

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...Earlier, he was castigated for "summarily cancelling" all Ambassador appointments, yet this is standard process with any new administration...
Yes, except in prior administrations some ambassadors were allowed to stay on until their replacements were confirmed or in cases of school-age kids, etc. Trump had none of it. BTW, he didn't cancel ALL ambassador appointments. Just those of non-career diplomats - e.g. Suzan LeVine, who was rewarded with the ambassadorship to Switzerland because she'd bundled donations for Obama.

Side note - if the ante to get a Cabinet position is to be a billionaire, what's the ante to get an ambassadorship? Would a mere millionaire make the cut?

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You are right about the debt, but it isn't Trump who built that up. That debt was built up by people who had no sense nor skills of how to make money. They only know how to spend money...Now Trump, actually, is a builder...
Are you for real? Trump/his companies are the ones that racked up stacks of debt. When he couldn't pay the bills he used the law to his favor and shafted the little people (read: people that actually did the building). Some got no money at all for their work on his hotels and casinos while others got pennies on the dollar. So as someone else said, the fact you put a construction hat on him does NOT make him a builder.

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You really think that wall will keep out the smugglers?
It's just a show.

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In the case of the US today, its not simply residential housing that will be renovated, but infrastructure (e.g., roads, tunnels, bridges, airports, services, walls, etc.).
Funny thing...when Democrats talk about infrastructure projects, they're branded as tax-and-spend pet projects. When Republicans talk about them, it's renovating.

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How tall is this wall going to be that will make it more effective than the existing fencing?
Doesn't matter how tall it is, because...tunnels. I've read the proposal is to be 20-25 feet tall and 5 feet deep underground. Good to know how far underground the wall will go so the tunnel-builders have an idea of how low to go.

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Its very pourous at the moment. It some places, its just a shrub of grass.
...in an unforgiving desert. Why not just dump a bunch more poisonous snakes out there? That'd be cheaper, no?

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How much do you think it will cost? To be effective, and not just a huge symbolic waste of money
I've seen about 10 billion as a rough estimate, but it could go much higher if they want to replace existing fence with wall.

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The fervent obsession with religion in the US makes sense when you read those kind of figures. It has woven itself into the very fabric of society. If you're not a god-botherer in the US you're a nobody...
Or you're a terrorist.
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Old 25.01.2017, 17:40
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The Netherlands strikes back against Trump and the Mexico City policy. They're going to set up their own international fund.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38747646
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Or you're a terrorist.
I think they're even more God-bothery than the mean.
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Okay, I never paid attention to what US Presidents did when in office, but is all this public signing of executive orders the norm? Or is it just Trump having to constantly be in the spotlight for everything he does? For someone who doesn't like the media he certainly enjoys having them around when they're not critising him, but just taking photos of him being "great".
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As an attention seeker, whose concern of his public image is surpassed only by his greed, we should probably get used to daily staging of the new president "at work". Neither his call for investigation into the alleged voter fraud, nor the censuring of climate change tweets by a National Park fall within what is normal.

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In yesterday's press conference, the press badgered Spicer why Trump doesn't call for voter fraud investigation. He apparently listened and responded. Now that he calls for one, they badger him for not accepting the results.

The degree of scrutiny and criticism is great. But done too often for all the wrong reasons, coupled with paranoia, can very well diminish its impact when it is truly needed later.

This will either shut down press access, or make people weary of all kinds of dire warnings.
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Phos, to my understanding, the press has not " badgered Spicer why Trump doesn't call for voter fraud investigation" .

The press asked Spicer to clarify why Trump has reiterated his baseless claim that he would have won the popular vote too, if it weren’t`t for the “illegal voters”, in the face of the report published by the Brennan Centre for Justice, which found that the rate of voter fraud fell between 0.00004% and 0.0009%. Spicer said it was “a longstanding belief” of the president’s that people had voted illegally but did not assert it was true.

Spicer was asked if the administration would launch a voter fraud investigation, to which he said, "Maybe we will."

And later Trump Tweeted that he will launch a major investigation..
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Okay, I never paid attention to what US Presidents did when in office, but is all this public signing of executive orders the norm? Or is it just Trump having to constantly be in the spotlight for everything he does? For someone who doesn't like the media he certainly enjoys having them around when they're not critising him, but just taking photos of him being "great".
I think it's fairly standard, because it's a chance for the president to show his supporters that he's getting to work "on day one" or at least within the first week, and it sets a policy tone early on.
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Actually Islam was the first religion to give rights to women.
You just know how desperate the lefties are getting when they start touting Islam as some sort of beacon of progressiveness!
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You just know how desperate the lefties are getting when they start touting Islam as some sort of beacon of progressiveness!
Yeah, the "progressiveness" of these religions really took a nose-dive when the extremists got stuck in and put their own spin on them, didn't it?
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You just know how desperate the lefties are getting when they start touting Islam as some sort of beacon of progressiveness!
Real facts not alternative facts!
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You just know how desperate the lefties are getting when they start touting Islam as some sort of beacon of progressiveness!
Bury your head in the sand all you like, and I know you're not American, but there have been female Muslim leaders and powerful female figures for over a Millennium and American haven't had one.

This is a decent list, but the one I'm most familiar with is Hürrem Sultan

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Phos, to my understanding, the press has not " badgered Spicer why Trump doesn't call for voter fraud investigation" .

The press asked Spicer to clarify why Trump has reiterated his baseless claim that he would have won the popular vote too, if it weren’t`t for the “illegal voters”, in the face of the report published by the Brennan Centre for Justice, which found that the rate of voter fraud fell between 0.00004% and 0.0009%. Spicer said it was “a longstanding belief” of the president’s that people had voted illegally but did not assert it was true.

Spicer was asked if the administration would launch a voter fraud investigation, to which he said, "Maybe we will."

And later Trump Tweeted that he will launch a major investigation..
I'd like to see how that turns out in PA, where they can't even verify that the votes the electronic machines tallied were in fact the votes cast by the people (no paper trail to audit the electronic numbers).
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