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Bury your head in the sand all you like, and I know you're not American, but there have been female Muslim leaders and powerful female figures for over a Millennium and American haven't had one.

This is a decent list, but the one I'm most familiar with is Hürrem Sultan

http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Muslim_Leaders.htm
Before I get into this let's just clear this up: Are you suggesting, that in any single muslim majority country, the women have more rights than their American counterparts?
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Old 25.01.2017, 21:03
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Bury your head in the sand all you like, and I know you're not American, but there have been female Muslim leaders and powerful female figures for over a Millennium and American haven't had one.

This is a decent list, but the one I'm most familiar with is Hürrem Sultan

http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Muslim_Leaders.htm
Say that again.

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1551.html

Not saying I agree with all the names on that list being influential in the sense you mean, but many are/were. And the list is by no means complete as it says at the bottom.
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Old 25.01.2017, 21:04
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You just know how desperate the lefties are getting when they start touting Islam as some sort of beacon of progressiveness!
Still waiting on a female pope, acceptance of gay marriage, acceptance that abortion is not a grave evil, etc...
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Before I get into this let's just clear this up: Are you suggesting, that in any single muslim majority country, the women have more rights than their American counterparts?
I'm stating that in Muslim history there have been many female leaders and women of power. In some modern day Muslim countries, there have been female leaders, or did you never hear of Benazir Bhutto, yet America hasn't broken that barrier yet.
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Still waiting on a female pope, acceptance of gay marriage, acceptance that abortion is not a grave evil, etc...
You can say the same for Islam - except for the Pope part of course. But they're still waiting for a female Imam equivalent.
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Old 25.01.2017, 21:08
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Phos, to my understanding, the press has not " badgered Spicer why Trump doesn't call for voter fraud investigation" .

The press asked Spicer to clarify why Trump has reiterated his baseless claim that he would have won the popular vote too, if it weren’t`t for the “illegal voters”, in the face of the report published by the Brennan Centre for Justice, which found that the rate of voter fraud fell between 0.00004% and 0.0009%. Spicer said it was “a longstanding belief” of the president’s that people had voted illegally but did not assert it was true.

Spicer was asked if the administration would launch a voter fraud investigation, to which he said, "Maybe we will."

And later Trump Tweeted that he will launch a major investigation..
I watched a part of yesterday's press conference. Trump had previously mentioned voter fraud in an interview. So they pressed Spicer about it, and why Trump doesn't call for an investigation if he believes so. Spicer said Trump was content with the win. But three or four reporters continued to ask him if Trump should not be concerned. Spicer brushed it off, and the press made it look like evasion. The next day, Trump called for the inquiry.

Regardless of Trump, its good to settle this matter. There have been known cases of double to triple voter registrations. There are people registered in multiple states. There are even dead people registered to vote. Some brag about voting multiple times.

As for Trump, he's damned if he does, damned if doesn't. I think continually harassing him with useless and trivial things will eventually numb him and the public to criticism.
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Old 25.01.2017, 21:13
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

So if a woman President is the only indicator of social backwardness we have in America, I'll take that over all the other indicator one finds everywhere else in the world.

You can have your "progressivism" to yourself and keep it, please.
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You can have your "progressivism" to yourself and keep it, please.
I'm progressive!
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You can say the same for Islam - except for the Pope part of course. But they're still waiting for a female Imam equivalent.
As a confirmed atheist, I believe one is no better or worse than another.
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You can say the same for Islam - except for the Pope part of course. But they're still waiting for a female Imam equivalent.
No need to wait; there have been many female Imams in Canada, China, Denmark, South Africa, Spain, UK, USA.
In Turkey the state-run mosques have trained hundreds of women as vaizes, a term translated by the BBC as "senior imams" and by the Washington Times as "female preachers".
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Before I get into this let's just clear this up: Are you suggesting, that in any single muslim majority country, the women have more rights than their American counterparts?
For 1500 years ago the answer is yes.
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For 1500 years ago the answer is yes.
So what you're saying is your point about 'womens rights in islam' was true and relevant ... about 1500 years ago?

See, this is why Trump won.
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So what you're saying is your point about 'womens rights in islam' was true and relevant ... about 1500 years ago?

See, this is why Trump won.
I posted "Actually Islam was the first religion to give rights to women, women in 7th century Arabia had few if any rights."

Yes, the 7th century was around 1,500 years ago
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I don't get it. Comparing 7th century Arabia to 7th century American? Huh?
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Old 25.01.2017, 22:16
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A glimmer of hope - perhaps:

https://www.facebook.com/gq/videos/10155446639138098/
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I don't get it. Comparing 7th century Arabia to 7th century American? Huh?
It's known as an 'alternative argument'

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I don't get it. Comparing 7th century Arabia to 7th century American? Huh?
No comparing 7th century Arabia to your claim that the US Christian church were first to promote women's rights. Do try to keep up at the back of the class there

BTW, your dear friend is now known in Twitter as Trumplethinskin; has a certain ring to it.

Now the dear leader has banned the National Park service from tweeting they can no longer use this service for popular and important safety notifications like road conditions in the parks. They get around 300 million visitors per year.
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No comparing 7th century Arabia to your claim that the US Christian church were first to promote women's rights. Do try to keep up at the back of the class there

BTW, your dear friend is now known in Twitter as Trumplethinskin; has a certain ring to it.

Now the dear leader has banned the National Park service from tweeting they can no longer use this service for popular and important safety notifications like road conditions in the parks. They get around 300 million visitors per year.

Huh? I think you've lost the plot somewhere.
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The Netherlands strikes back against Trump and the Mexico City policy. They're going to set up their own international fund.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38747646
I'm not sure why this is being touted as a slap in the face for Trump.

Trump says the world shouldn't count on Uncle Sam to fix all its problems. Other countries need to step up and take some initiative and shoulder some of the costs.

And when one does, people are claiming, this is a defeat for Trump.

Strange.
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As a confirmed atheist, I believe one is no better or worse than another.

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