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Old 26.01.2017, 10:14
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Pedantic much?
"I believe" can also be used in the context "I think", "I understand that..", "It is my opinion..". It doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with faith or religion.
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Old 26.01.2017, 10:18
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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I'm not sure why this is being touted as a slap in the face for Trump.

Trump says the world shouldn't count on Uncle Sam to fix all its problems. Other countries need to step up and take some initiative and shoulder some of the costs.

And when one does, people are claiming, this is a defeat for Trump.

Strange.
No, it's not strange. The abortion fund is a pushback against Trump's actions in a moral battle, not a "time to pay your share" battle. In this case his effort to push "all abortions are bad" will have failed if the fund works as hoped. So it's a defeat for him. Simple.

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Old 26.01.2017, 10:21
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Pedantic much?
"I believe" can also be used in the context "I think", "I understand that..", "It is my opinion..". It doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with faith or religion.
Not pedantic (ironic, probably), just trying to emphasize that atheism too is a religion.
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Old 26.01.2017, 10:24
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Just to be clear we are discussing the same bill that each time a Republican gets into the White House it gets signed - and each time a Democrat gets in it is repealed? Pretty much always on day 1?

And are we saying that we should get rid of Trump and have Pence instead?

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Not pedantic (ironic, probably), just trying to emphasize that atheism too is a religion.
That's what all the agnostics say
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Old 26.01.2017, 10:28
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Not pedantic (ironic, probably), just trying to emphasize that atheism too is a religion.
Erm, no it isn't.
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Old 26.01.2017, 10:33
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No, it's not strange. The abortion fund is a pushback against Trump's actions in a moral battle, not a "time to pay your share" battle. In this case his effort to push "all abortions are bad" will have failed if the fund works as hoped. So it's a defeat for him. Simple.

I hope the rest of the world wins more of these moral battles in the future.
A lot more.
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:06
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

As far as i can see, the main difference between Obama and Trump is, Obama acted and looked Presidential; Trump just doesn't look the part and is unlikely to ever do so.
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:10
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As far as i can see, the main difference between Obama and Trump is, Obama acted and looked Presidential; Trump just doesn't look the part and is unlikely to ever do so.
Plus he's eroding and polluting the very foundation and essence of the American way of life and dressing it up as "change" and other fancy buzzwords.

They just haven't realised it yet.

He'll be repackaging and DHL-ing the Statue of Liberty back to the French next.
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:16
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump is working like a madman on hist first week, all without a cabinet.

I'm a little disappointed though. With all the work he's doing, he seems to be spending less and less time trolling on twitter. Oh well, maybe we get to see some on the weekends.
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:17
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Plus he's eroding and polluting the very foundation and essence of the American way of life and dressing it up as "change" and other fancy buzzwords.
And you know the "very foundation and essence of the American way of life"?

Buahahaha
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:19
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As far as i can see, the main difference between Obama and Trump is, Obama acted and looked Presidential; Trump just doesn't look the part and is unlikely to ever do so.
Very true----and a good number of people like having someone who looks and acts 'Presidential'.
Conversely a lot of people don't like the 'look and act like a president'. They don't understand it, feel it's smug, patronizing and thus the messages don't speak to them (even when they are for their better).
They feel left out, alienated, abandoned with all their problems to deal with themselves---which is why they reach out to the opposite.
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:20
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And you know the "very foundation and essence of the American way of life"?

Buahahaha
Hey, as you know more than most, anyone on here can know anything they want to without any back up whatsoever.


Buahahahaha!
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:22
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump believes waterboarding works:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38753000
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:24
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

So he has started the wall building process which I forecast will eventually be known as Trump's folly, or whatever is the US equivalent name.

It is a huge project unlikely to be finished in Trump's first term even if they start now. You cannot drive heavy construction materials across country; they will need to build new roads in some areas before they can start.

The wall will also have to take into account natural flooding zones as well as large areas of sand, where the ground effectively moves.

Nobody talks about regular maintenance, the wall will be no use if it is buried in sand or people blow holes in it.

"The cost of Trump's wall is widely expected to be greater than $15 billion and perhaps as much as $25 billion."

The US-Mexico border region is a delicate ecosystem with regular animal migrations moving between the north and south of the American continent which I assume Trump will ignore.

There is also the issue of Native American territory and private land (ranches) that straddle the border and likely protest actions.
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:27
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Trump believes waterboarding works:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38753000
Apparently, he was thinking of this:

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Old 26.01.2017, 11:34
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Trump believes waterboarding works:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38753000
Its the intelligence community itself, even Panetta himself, that told him they were able to get information on bin Laden with "enhanced interrogation". They basically told him it works for getting information.

Where it doesn't work is in the damage to US reputation. Its not politically effective.
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Its the intelligence community itself, even Panetta himself, that told him they were able to get information on bin Laden with "enhanced interrogation". They basically told him it works for getting information.

Where it doesn't work is in the damage to US reputation. Its not politically effective.
It works at getting what you want to hear, ideal for Trump .
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Old 26.01.2017, 12:05
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It works at getting what you want to hear, ideal for Trump .
is this true for every single case of torture in history? nobody ever spilled the beans because of torture?
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Its the intelligence community itself, even Panetta himself, that told him they were able to get information on bin Laden with "enhanced interrogation". They basically told him it works for getting information.

Where it doesn't work is in the damage to US reputation. Its not politically effective.
The rack and the iron maiden have also been historically effective at getting people to say things.

'not politically effective' - doublespeak for 'a gross violation of human rights, without due process, and illegal under international law, Geneva convention, etc.'
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as there are a few yanks on this thread, can you answer me this

Why are americans so obsessed with healthcare?
Did a Brit seriously ask this question?

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Why would you run a government like a business? What's so great about that? Businesses extract as much money as possible while giving the least that can possibly be delivered.
Businesses care about one thing, their shareholders. Now who are a government's shareholders?

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The Netherlands strikes back against Trump and the Mexico City policy. They're going to set up their own international fund.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38747646
For everyone proclaiming how wonderful the Netherlands is for this token gesture, remember they're about to vote Wilders into power in a matter of weeks. Oh how we'll LOL.
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