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As far as i can see, the main difference between Obama and Trump is, Obama acted and looked Presidential; Trump just doesn't look the part and is unlikely to ever do so.
This is perhaps the most bizarre comment I've ever read re differences between Obama and Trump

And yesterday from the Independent:



The Trump administration’s decision to stop Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) officials and other government staff from speaking out publicly has prompted the country’s leading scientific organisation to warn against “censorship and intimidation”.

The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest scientific society in the world, said many federal agencies had policies that “prohibit political interference” in how they relay information to the public.

And the World Resources Institute think tank said the move to stop the “free flow of information” would have a “chilling effect on staff”.
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Old 26.01.2017, 11:22
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Steve Bannon registered to vote in two states despite Trump's cries of 'voter fraud' - a practice that the US president wrongly claimed amounted to electoral fraud on Wednesday as he called for an inquiry.

Note; It is not in itself illegal to be registered to vote in two states. It would be illegal to cast ballots in two different states.

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Old 26.01.2017, 11:30
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The rack and the iron maiden have also been historically effective at getting people to say things.

'not politically effective' - doublespeak for 'a gross violation of human rights, without due process, and illegal under international law, Geneva convention, etc.'

Its also horrendously expensive. Unquantifiably expensive. In my opinion, the photos from Abu Ghraib cost the US more damage than all the money spent in Iraq, plus more. It may be irreparable damage. I'm not sure how it can be rectified. I'm thinking staying away from other country's wars would be a great start.
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As a confirmed atheist, I believe one is no better or worse than another.
Perhaps some here should move to the Christian utopia of Orania hey

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Perhaps some here should move to the Christian utopia of Orania hey

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Old 26.01.2017, 13:01
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As a confirmed atheist, I believe one is no better or worse than another.
Whereas one look at the statistics for the different religions regarding life expectancy, happiness, poverty, human rights, equality, wealth, education, democracy, health, economy, blowing yourself up in the name of your religion will prove that one is better than the other.

From another atheist.
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Old 26.01.2017, 13:07
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Whereas one look at the statistics for the different religions regarding life expectancy, happiness, poverty, human rights, equality, wealth, education, democracy, health, economy, blowing yourself up in the name of your religion will prove that one is better than the other.

From another atheist.
You mean that it will prove poverty is better than human rights or happiness is better than economy or ?
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Old 26.01.2017, 13:13
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How long do you reckon the Trump rage will last? How long did the Brexit rage last?

I'm kicking around an idea to exploit and monetize it, like a good capitalist.
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Old 26.01.2017, 13:20
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How long do you reckon the Trump rage will last? How long did the Brexit rage last?

I'm kicking around an idea to exploit and monetize it, like a good capitalist.
Is it rage, though? Feels a bit more like pity tinged with a dash of black humour.

Come to think of it, pity is probably a lot worse than rage and hatred. Maybe you can cash in on how pitiful he is?
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Whereas one look at the statistics for the different religions regarding life expectancy, happiness, poverty, human rights, equality, wealth, education, democracy, health, economy, blowing yourself up in the name of your religion will prove that one is better than the other.

From another atheist.
I agree, America should abandon Christianity and adopt Shintoism and Buddhism.
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Old 26.01.2017, 13:22
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How long do you reckon the Trump rage will last? How long did the Brexit rage last?

I'm kicking around an idea to exploit and monetize it, like a good capitalist.
It will never end. The people who dislike Trump, dislike him at an entity. It wouldn't matter if he starts world war 3 and ends existence of all (which seems to be the current consensus on FB), if he does nothing, or actually solves all the world's problems.


The main hate with him is he's a mean old rich man, and that's never going to change.
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It will never end. The people who dislike Trump, dislike him at an entity. It wouldn't matter if he starts world war 3 and ends existence of all (which seems to be the current consensus on FB), if he does nothing, or actually solves all the world's problems.


The main hate with him is he's a mean old rich man, and that's never going to change.
Yes, we'd still dislike him, because he is eminently dislikeable.

We'd respect his achievements though, in the same way that we can still listen to Wagner's music, despite him being a horrific anti-semite.

It's a shame that the majority of Repubs aren't able to do the same with Obama.
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Wouldn't it just be easier/cheaper to set up a nice wide minefield instead of a wall?
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Wouldn't it just be easier/cheaper to set up a nice wide minefield instead of a wall?
The Americans admire Princess Diana too much for that.
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Is it rage, though? Feels a bit more like pity tinged with a dash of black humour
That's a quaint way of dressing up what is essentially a bunch of adults whinging and throwing their toys out of the pram
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It will never end. The people who dislike Trump, dislike him at an entity. It wouldn't matter if he starts world war 3 and ends existence of all (which seems to be the current consensus on FB), if he does nothing, or actually solves all the world's problems.


The main hate with him is he's a mean old rich man, and that's never going to change.
Can't you use the same argument for the people who support him, though?

He could annihilate most of the world, destroy the environment, shag half his female staff, murder his wife and take a baseball bat to a basket of puppies and it wouldn't dent their adulation of him.

So long as he builds a wall, scraps Obamacare and stops Muslims at the border he's on a winner with his supporters, whatever else he does.

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That's a quaint way of dressing up what is essentially a bunch of adults whinging and throwing their toys out of the pram
Similar scenes to when Obama took office, then...
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The Americans admire Princess Diana too much for that.
2 points:
1) Nobody is suggesting Princess Diana has to walk across the minefield
2) Somebody should tell them she died years ago
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So he has started the wall building process which I forecast will eventually be known as Trump's folly, or whatever is the US equivalent name.

It is a huge project unlikely to be finished in Trump's first term even if they start now. You cannot drive heavy construction materials across country; they will need to build new roads in some areas before they can start.
First of all you need to own the land or are permitted to build! Apparently most border land in Texas is privately owned! See Foxnews (oh the irony).

Foxnews on the current fence:
"There are miles of gaps between segments and openings in the fence itself. As a result of the Secure Fence Act passed in 2006, the government built some 650 miles of wall along the 1,954-mile U.S.-Mexico boundary. While 1,254 miles of that border is in Texas, the state has only some 100 miles of wall."
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Is it rage, though? Feels a bit more like pity tinged with a dash of black humour.

Come to think of it, pity is probably a lot worse than rage and hatred. Maybe you can cash in on how pitiful he is?
Rage is the wrong description.
" pity tinged with a dash of black humour" is a good description; he is an old guy who seems to be sliding into dementia.
Did you see the speech where he said "God made it stop raining when he gave his inauguration speech" and in the background of his inauguration speech video you Bush struggling into his plastic waterproof poncho
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is this true for every single case of torture in history? nobody ever spilled the beans because of torture?
By that logic everybody should be subjectd to torture. What a stupid notion.
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