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About President Trump, now that he's president, I don't mind saying this. I suspect he has ADHD. I know many successful people who have it. Its not necessarily debilitating or incapacitating. Its actually useful at the executive level. Just not always conducive for interpersonal communication. It requires more patience from those who work with them.

I don't think it is grounds for impeachment or anything.
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Were you finding mass graves across the border? Dozens of headless corpses of men, women and children regularly dumped on a sidewalk, hanging on lightposts and bridges?

The violence and evil in Mexico matches that of ISIS. Over 100,000 people have been killed in the last decade. Its seeping through to the US side. Any estimated $200M dollars flow through on a daily basis. There are networks of illegal criminals in the US that administer this flow.

That wall is not about racism. There is a good fight here worth fighting. We don't need to suffer the ignorance of fools in Europe to try to address this.

so don't fix the problem, which would be cheaper and better for all involved, build a wall instead

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About President Trump, now that he's president, I don't mind saying this. I suspect he has ADHD. I know many successful people who have it. Its not necessarily debilitating or incapacitating. Its actually useful at the executive level. Just not always conducive for interpersonal communication. It requires more patience from those who work with them.

I don't think it is grounds for impeachment or anything.
I hope he is not impeached; I fear it would lead to civil unrest
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One aspect of Trump that concerns me is his flirtation with vaccine conspiracies; from his anti-vaccine tweets, to his association with known anti-vaccine proponents such as Andrew Wakefield and, recently, Robert F. Kennedy. The threat of infectious diseases is truly of global concern.
It's just more of the fake information Trump endorses and disseminates on his Twoddle feed. This week has seen a regression of about 50 years to American society. I guess Trump just wants to revisit the good ole wholesome days of his youth!
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About President Trump, now that he's president, I don't mind saying this. I suspect he has ADHD. I know many successful people who have it. Its not necessarily debilitating or incapacitating. Its actually useful at the executive level. Just not always conducive for interpersonal communication. It requires more patience from those who work with them.

I don't think it is grounds for impeachment or anything.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was ADHD, I suspect that he wouldn't be the first POTUS to have it, and yes, it could well be a strength for people in that role.

The thing about the patience is also true: he'll get patience from whoever he deals with so long as they gain some real benefit from being patient with him.

The question is... how long will it take until it turns out that what he is implementing turns out _not_ to be a real benefit for a large enough portion of the sitting politicians, voting public, and the business community?

Simple case: the coal mines and US produced steel thing: How long does it take to reopen and ramp up domestic coal and steel production? Most of the mines and mills have been cut up and paved over - that infrastructure will take time to put in place. Just building the infrastructure will create jobs, but only if someone finances it. If the financier thinks "well, I could put 2 Billion into coal and steel, but Trump will be gone before it is online, and his legislation might be repealed, and the import steel is _always_ going to be cheaper even if I pay an import fine." What would you do with your 2 Billion?
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Its an adult world, and this is a topic for adults. If you can't handle it, go focus on attention on something else.
I can only laugh out loud at your inane babble, I was wrong you are not a Putintroll, you are probably Donald Trump! Are you sure you don't suffer ADHD either?
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Old 27.01.2017, 12:28
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The question is... how long will it take until it turns out that what he is implementing turns out _not_ to be a real benefit for a large enough portion of the sitting politicians, voting public, and the business community?

Simple case: the coal mines and US produced steel thing: How long does it take to reopen and ramp up domestic coal and steel production? Most of the mines and mills have been cut up and paved over - that infrastructure will take time to put in place. Just building the infrastructure will create jobs, but only if someone finances it. If the financier thinks "well, I could put 2 Billion into coal and steel, but Trump will be gone before it is online, and his legislation might be repealed, and the import steel is _always_ going to be cheaper even if I pay an import fine." What would you do with your 2 Billion?
I think that is measured in its end result. Also, weighing out whether it is better to do something than not at all. It was clear in this election that they voted for action in spite of Trump's not so pleasant personality.

I'm sure he will fail in some cases, and succeed in others. He may get good grades for effort regardless. Depending on how he carries on with it, the voters can decide at the next election.

For a good manager and leader in a crisis situation, I would choose effectiveness over congeniality.
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Simple case: the coal mines and US produced steel thing: How long does it take to reopen and ramp up domestic coal and steel production? Most of the mines and mills have been cut up and paved over - that infrastructure will take time to put in place. Just building the infrastructure will create jobs, but only if someone finances it. If the financier thinks "well, I could put 2 Billion into coal and steel, but Trump will be gone before it is online, and his legislation might be repealed, and the import steel is _always_ going to be cheaper even if I pay an import fine." What would you do with your 2 Billion?
This is a very good question.

I expect that Trump will be able to slow or even halt the decline of the steel mills that are still operating. But for the reasons you state, new build on any significant scale is unlikely.

However, politics is an uncertainty in any investment. Somebody investing in new steel mills in China must be asking the same question. Is Trump just a blip on the radar or is he the first in a long line of presidents who will favour protectionism? Maybe they too are defering their investment for the same reason. Maybe the result will be a worldwide shortage of steel?
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Old 27.01.2017, 12:33
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I can only laugh out loud at your inane babble, I was wrong you are not a Putintroll, you are probably Donald Trump! Are you sure you don't suffer ADHD either?
I kind of have selective attention, like selective hearing. Some posters posts are sooo worthless and irrelevant, I don't even bother with them at all.

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I think that is measured in its end result.
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He may get good grades for effort regardless.
Presidents don't get good grades for effort. Never have, never will. (This is a direct result of the cult of omnipotence which surrounds the office.)
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Simple case: the coal mines and US produced steel thing: How long does it take to reopen and ramp up domestic coal and steel production? Most of the mines and mills have been cut up and paved over - that infrastructure will take time to put in place. Just building the infrastructure will create jobs, but only if someone finances it. If the financier thinks "well, I could put 2 Billion into coal and steel, but Trump will be gone before it is online, and his legislation might be repealed, and the import steel is _always_ going to be cheaper even if I pay an import fine." What would you do with your 2 Billion?
This may be true of particular cases. My take on "America First" was in laying down a doctrine by which government should operate and set policies for the benefit of its citizens. The Republicans betrayed Americans on this in favor of corporations. The Democrats followed the Republicans, leaving nobody to look after workers' interests.

You're right that it may not be practical in particular instances, but a beneficial principle for informing policies from here on out.
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Now they cannot be bothered to check on the spelling of Theresa May, they used the Spanish name Teresa

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...cid=spartandhp
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This is a very good question.

I expect that Trump will be able to slow or even halt the decline of the steel mills that are still operating. But for the reasons you state, new build on any significant scale is unlikely.

However, politics is an uncertainty in any investment. Somebody investing in new steel mills in China must be asking the same question. Is Trump just a blip on the radar or is he the first in a long line of presidents who will favour protectionism? Maybe they too are defering their investment for the same reason. Maybe the result will be a worldwide shortage of steel?
According to the OECD the world wide steel making capacity is 2.4 billion tons and actual sales are 1.6 billion so we will not need to worry about shortages for a while
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This may be true of particular cases. My take on "America First" was in laying down a doctrine by which government should operate and set policies for the benefit of its citizens. The Republicans betrayed Americans on this in favor of corporations. The Democrats followed the Republicans, leaving nobody to look after workers' interests.

You're right that it may not be practical in particular instances, but a beneficial principle for informing policies from here on out.
The way I see it is that he will have to raise such a massive import tax that Walmart and Harbour Freight will have nothing to sell. That may put tax money into the federal coffers, but:

How long will it take for industry to produce enough stuff to restock the shelves in Walmart and Harbour Freight?

How much more expensive will the domestically produced stuff be? People in the US won't work for Chinese wages, and industry won't just throw labour at a production task, so there won't be many jobs generated, and those that are won't, on balance, be well paid.

The rest of the world will continue buying cheap asian stuff. The US won't be able to export until they can be price competitive. Perhaps Trump could take the money generated from import duties and subsidize exports?
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According to the OECD the world wide steel making capacity is 2.4 billion tons and actual sales are 1.6 billion so we will not need to worry about shortages for a while
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The violence and evil in Mexico matches that of ISIS. Over 100,000 people have been killed in the last decade. Its seeping through to the US side.
What a load of hyberbole, ISIS... pfft. Most murders in Mexico are drug related and many are 'state aided'. How many murders in the US in the last decade?
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Now they cannot be bothered to check on the spelling of Theresa May, they used the Spanish name Teresa

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...cid=spartandhp
My sister's name is spelled Teresa, since when is it a Spanish name?
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The way I see it is that he will have to raise such a massive import tax that Walmart and Harbour Freight will have nothing to sell. That may put tax money into the federal coffers, but:

How long will it take for industry to produce enough stuff to restock the shelves in Walmart and Harbour Freight?

How much more expensive will the domestically produced stuff be? People in the US won't work for Chinese wages, and industry won't just throw labour at a production task, so there won't be many jobs generated, and those that are won't, on balance, be well paid.

The rest of the world will continue buying cheap asian stuff. The US won't be able to export until they can be price competitive. Perhaps Trump could take the money generated from import duties and subsidize exports?
The key indicators he keeps alluding to are the trade deficits. The theory being balancing that deficit retains value in the US. I don't honestly know if it is true, and I suspect it has side effects elsewhere.

There is a vision there on how it could run. I'm not convince he has an actual implementation plan yet. I don't expect he will be fixing this in the next 2 years, nor 4 years. At best, he can lay down the ground work for a longer term plan.

My bigger concern is about the kinds of jobs he is talking about bringing back. These are jobs that are being replaced by robots and automation. Also, the infrastructure he is talking about is to support industrialization from the last century. I would rather they start thinking about new infrastructure for new modes of transportation - self driving vehicles that fly. Its really in the area of innovation where we take our productivity leaps.
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I don't expect he will be fixing this in the next 2 years, nor 4 years. At best, he can lay down the ground work for a longer term plan.
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That is exactly my point...

If he doesn't effect change which makes more than 50% of the voting population happier during his first term, then there won't be a second term. The next POTUS will campaign on a "Trump got it wrong" platform, and his first act of office will be to repeal whatever Trump enacted (any of this sound familiar to you?).
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(any of this sound familiar to you?).
Yes - its called 2 party politics!!

You can only vote ALL conservative or ALL liberal. You can't vote (meaningfully) for some one who is economically conservative but socially liberal. You have to choose all or nothing. And that leads to yo-yo lawmaking.
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