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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Anyhoo, lets just pretend the hypocrisy isn't there and you can all get back to bashing Trump.

2017 just keeps getting better and better!
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Old 29.01.2017, 13:27
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Actually in the Gulf countries there is no concept of 'refugees'

As I said 'selective outrage'
Did you read the article?

It is again talking about "resettlement" (permanent visas) not temporary hosting of refugees who one hopes will be able to return home sooner or later.

For example, Turkey has over 2 million refugees and also has 0 resettlement places.

It is true there is no concept of refugees, they call them "our brothers and sisters"
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Foreign ministry official says nation has received nearly 2.5 million Syrians since 2011, amid criticism of its efforts.
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Old 29.01.2017, 13:39
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump twitters
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Thr coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost gas been so false and angry that the times actually apologized to its....
...dwindling subscribers and readers.They got me wrong right from the beginning and still have not changed course, and never will. DISHONEST
I wonder if the bad spelling is deliberate to make him one of the people?
The story of an apology is a blatant lie
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Old 29.01.2017, 14:05
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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And, why weren't other Muslim majority countries included? Oh wait....Trump has business interests in those countries.
Because the ban is for countries without a secure vetting process?

There is no Muslim ban. Its yet another imaginary issue driven by fake news media.
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Old 29.01.2017, 14:18
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Because the ban is for countries without a secure vetting process?

There is no Muslim ban. Its yet another imaginary issue driven by fake news media.
So you are saying there are no visa issues or travel restrictions into the US from these five countries which happen to have predominently muslim population?

If so, that's one helluva wind up.

Oops, spoke too soon - Farage is riding the Trump express and urging the UK to do the same. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...
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Old 29.01.2017, 14:22
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

There are plenty of Muslims coming into the US today.

Believe it or not, some Muslims countries are still intact, and they have some form of government still left. There, they can still vet individuals, so are not on that list.

The "Muslim Ban" circus hoopla will fall flat on its face again, as it has no basis in reality. By the way, Obama did this exact same thing in 2011.


Trump is gonna win this one too.



Mainstream media continues to lose its credibility.
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The "Muslim Ban" circus hoopla will fall flat on its face again, as it has no basis in reality. By the way, Obama did this exact same thing in 2011.
Remember the outrage back in 2011?

Yeah, me neither
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Old 29.01.2017, 14:33
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There are plenty of Muslims coming into the US today.

Believe it or not, some Muslims countries are still intact, and they have some form of government still left. There, they can still vet individuals, so are not on that list.

The "Muslim Ban" circus hoopla will fall flat on its face again, as it has no basis in reality. By the way, Obama did this exact same thing in 2011.


Trump is gonna win this one too.



Mainstream media continues to lose its credibility.
The mainstream media is correctly reporting the countries affected. The fact that they have predominently muslim populations is also reported. So?

Other predominently Muslim countries aren't affected. Only that those countries have connections with Trump's business interests.

All facts. The media is free to report them. People like you are getting hysterical and making a big thing about it. It is what it is.
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Old 29.01.2017, 14:37
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

There is a UK Petition to prevent him having a State Visit to the UK. Earlier today it was being signed by around 2000 people a minute. Over 75,000 signatures in the last hour. I reckon that it passed the 100,000 mark to trigger a Government debate in record time for a UK petition

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928
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All facts. The media is free to report them. People like you are getting hysterical and making a big thing about it. It is what it is.
I find it cute that the lefties are trying to adopt our phrases like 'hysterical' and 'snowflake' and use it against us

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They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...
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I find it cute that the lefties are trying to adopt our phrases like 'hysterical' and 'snowflake' and use it against us
It's a bit tragic that you have 'our phrases'. Do you have passwords and a secret knock, too?
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Old 29.01.2017, 14:48
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...By the way, Obama did this exact same thing in 2011...
He absolutely did not do "exactly the same thing". He did something that was similar but less far-reaching and less discriminatory. Stop cherry-picking facts just to feed your ego about "winning". It's getting scary.

Obama's order did not stop people with valid visas and green cards from coming back to the U.S. It was specific to refugees from Iraq, not every single Iraqi citizen.

The other countries on the current list have been mentioned by previous administrations and were targeted for extra monitoring but it was not an all-out stop on all visas for all people from those countries. More noteworthy, Obama didn't carve out special exceptions for certain religions.

The fact Trump has carved out an exception for Christians and other religious minorities leaves him open to the criticism that it's effectively a "Muslim ban" even if he didn't use that exact language. There's a reason it's worded the way it is, but the intent is still clear.

Obama's strategy (aside from the 6-month Iraqi refugee pause) also focused on carefully checking people that had visited certain countries (like Syria) as opposed to a straight-out ban on entire nationalities. This seems like a more relevant idea to me. I seem to recall the guys from the terror attacks in Europe had traveled to Syria to be trained. It doesn't do much good to ban all Syrians when your own citizens go get radicalized and come back to attack.
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There is a UK Petition to prevent him having a State Visit to the UK. Earlier today it was being signed by around 2000 people a minute. Over 75,000 signatures in the last hour. I reckon that it passed the 100,000 mark to trigger a Government debate in record time for a UK petition

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928
Didn't parliament already debate that?
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There is a UK Petition to prevent him having a State Visit to the UK. Earlier today it was being signed by around 2000 people a minute. Over 75,000 signatures in the last hour. I reckon that it passed the 100,000 mark to trigger a Government debate in record time for a UK petition

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

I find it hilarious, and I hope it surpasses 100,000 to hold a debate.

It's time to differentiate the adults from the puerile.
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Believe it or not, some Muslims countries are still intact, and they have some form of government still left.
Don't worry. I'm sure the United States will get round to destroying their governments too.
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Didn't parliament already debate that?
The previous petition was to stop him visiting the UK at all. This one is just to stop a State Visit, but accepts that he is able to visit the UK.

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I find it hilarious, and I hope it surpasses 100,000 to hold a debate.

It's time to differentiate the adults from the puerile.
It's around 220,000 now
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It's a bit tragic that you have 'our phrases'. Do you have passwords and a secret knock, too?
Nah, just a direct way of speaking which you seem to be enamored with.

I'm flattered
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Don't worry. I'm sure the United States will get round to destroying their governments too.
With the way the EU is going about, they are also in line. The UN has been given notice.

These organisations called governments, which are actually elite social clubs, are being forced to address object reality in ways they have not been held to account before. Trump is not playing their game, and I don't see how they will manage to get Trump to play theirs.

There is a bulldozer coming through to knock down old systems and structures that don't really work. Many signs of panic in Europe. It will be interesting.

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Nah, just a direct way of speaking which you seem to be enamored with.

I'm flattered
There's nothing direct about the way the new right speaks. It's all code and dogwhistling and hiding behind "irony".

"Oh, Milo doesn't really mean it. He's just trying to wind you up"

"Oh, Milo is very plain speaking. He says it like it is."

They're just a bunch of undergraduate dickheads who think they're doing something new and clever: basically, hippies/punks/crusties/insert-childish-cult-of-the-decade for the year 2017.
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With the way the EU is going about, they are also in line. The UN has been given notice.

These organisations called governments, which are actually elite social clubs, are being forced to address object reality in ways they have not been held to account before. Trump is not playing their game, and I don't see how they will manage to get Trump to play theirs.

There is a bulldozer coming through to knock down old systems and structures that don't really work. Many signs of panic in Europe. It will be interesting.

There are apparently many, many swamps.
WTF are you talking about, Phos?

We're not talking about Europe. We're talking about the United States destroying the functioning governments of several sovereign states, then turning round and acting all surprised that those sovereign states don't have functioning governments any more.

You'll say any old irrelevant, half-baked shit to "win", won't you Phos?

Shame you can't be arsed to vote, though. Makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously.
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