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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Sixteen Democratic state attorneys general vowed Sunday to fight President Trump’s executive order for travel bans — calling his demands “unconstitutional, un-American and unlawful.”

“As the chief legal officers for over 130 million Americans and foreign residents of our states, we condemn President Trump’s unconstitutional, un-American and unlawful Executive Order,” the joint statement said.

The statement was issued by the attorneys general for New York, California, Pennsylvania, Washington, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Virginia, Oregon, Connecticut, Vermont, Illinois, New Mexico, Iowa, Maine, Maryland and Washington, D.C.
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Trump has been regularly attacking the newspapers but now they smell blood in the water and are pushing back!
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Finally, I understand what Phos has been on about! Like him, I'm REALLY enjoying all this Trump presidency stuff! Just thinking about the massive wave of protests against him and the annihilation of the Republicans at the mid-terms makes me laugh out loud! The Republicans will end up in the wilderness for a generation.

Maybe DB's conspiracy theory, that Trump is a stooge for the Democrats, is completely correct!
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Old 30.01.2017, 14:00
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Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings...

I thought that was a fake tweet! But... no. OMG, can this entire administration be any more clueless?!?!!!
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Old 30.01.2017, 14:08
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I thought that was a fake tweet! But... no. OMG, can this entire administration be any more clueless?!?!!!
Certainly, see previous 3 administrations.
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Certainly, see previous 3 administrations.
Lol, in just one week the Trump administration has displayed a level of incompetence that exceeds the the aggregate of the last three!
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Old 30.01.2017, 14:15
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I thought that was a fake tweet! But... no. OMG, can this entire administration be any more clueless?!?!!!
Clueless is a good description. Many comments on Twitter, I liked this one " I'm glad I'm living through this. Because I'd never believe someone telling me this happened."

Did you know Sean Spicer has managed to tweet his twitter password not once but twice

And who was the bright person who decided Friday was a great time to issue the Trump ban so the whole country had time at the weekend to discuss and protest
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I thought that was a fake tweet! But... no. OMG, can this entire administration be any more clueless?!?!!!
why? because he has a sense of humor?
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Finally, I understand what Phos has been on about! Like him, I'm REALLY enjoying all this Trump presidency stuff! Just thinking about the massive wave of protests against him and the annihilation of the Republicans at the mid-terms makes me laugh out loud! The Republicans will end up in the wilderness for a generation.

Maybe DB's conspiracy theory, that Trump is a stooge for the Democrats, is completely correct!
Don't stoop to his level. I don't think there's anything enjoyable about it, and trying to out-nonchalant him is a race to the bottom. The damage done in the next few years of Trump's administration could possibly be catastrophic and I think there's just as much of a chance of people giving up and giving in than continuing to fight. The death of the Republican party (due to simple demographics or otherwise) has been predicted for the last 20 years, Hillary's victory should have been a lay-up, etc. Cut to, the Republican party is more powerful than it has been in generations. And if you're confident that Democrat voters will overcome their general laziness, as well as god knows what obstacles the Republicans will set up for them in the meantime like more gerrymandered districts and voter suppression, and actually come out to vote in the midterms, you may be as delusional as Phos is.
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Old 30.01.2017, 14:32
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Did you know Sean Spicer has managed to tweet his twitter password not once but twice
Look on the bright side... this kind of security will make it very easy for third parties to get a copy of any private email servers and such so that there won't be any "those mails have been deleted" discussions.

(Of course, it will also make it trivial for any script kiddie to generate emails from such a mail server, but that is just part of the open society...)
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Why would I want to do that

Isn't America becoming great again?

Oh yeah, and F**k Canada.
Bring warm underwear
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Old 30.01.2017, 14:42
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Look on the bright side... this kind of security will make it very easy for third parties to get a copy of any private email servers and such so that there won't be any "those mails have been deleted" discussions.

(Of course, it will also make it trivial for any script kiddie to generate emails from such a mail server, but that is just part of the open society...)
Maybe they already did hack Spicer's account, or is he really that clueless?
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Maybe they already did hack Spicer's account, or is he really that clueless?
Apparently he just tweeted his password because he has a great sense of humour!

I rofled.
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Old 30.01.2017, 15:01
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Finally, I understand what Phos has been on about! Like him, I'm REALLY enjoying all this Trump presidency stuff! Just thinking about the massive wave of protests against him and the annihilation of the Republicans at the mid-terms makes me laugh out loud! The Republicans will end up in the wilderness for a generation.

Maybe DB's conspiracy theory, that Trump is a stooge for the Democrats, is completely correct!
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Don't stoop to his level. I don't think there's anything enjoyable about it, and trying to out-nonchalant him is a race to the bottom. The damage done in the next few years of Trump's administration could possibly be catastrophic and I think there's just as much of a chance of people giving up and giving in than continuing to fight. The death of the Republican party (due to simple demographics or otherwise) has been predicted for the last 20 years, Hillary's victory should have been a lay-up, etc. Cut to, the Republican party is more powerful than it has been in generations. And if you're confident that Democrat voters will overcome their general laziness, as well as god knows what obstacles the Republicans will set up for them in the meantime like more gerrymandered districts and voter suppression, and actually come out to vote in the midterms, you may be as delusional as Phos is.

The delusional part here is believing that sentimental outcry actually accounts for anything. It has never produced anything. What matters now is end results.

The "Muslim Ban" is an opportunity for anybody and everybody to claim some moral high ground. The problem is there is no Muslim ban. It wears very thin very quickly. There isn't widespread resistance to it other than empty speeches. It will continue to be applied by DHS.

For as long as Democrats rely on sentimental outcries and fail to address real issues in reality, they won't have anything to show for it, and there is fat chance they will get elected on feigned moral outrage alone.

Even if Trump takes real action in the real world, and some of it do not meet its objectives, it will still demonstrate more value than what the Democrats deliver.

To regain relevance, Democrats will need more than just protest marches and shouting empty slogans. They have to deliver something real, which is difficult from their position. They'll have to cooperate and can only eat away at the fringes. Sentiments alone will not do it.
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The problem is there is no Muslim ban.
I don't think that is the problem, is it?

It was only you and your man, Rudy Giuliani in his YouTube vid, who came up with the "Muslim ban" thing in the first place despite many posts on here correcting you.

Everyone else read the Executive Order, it seems.
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For as long as Democrats rely on sentimental outcries and fail to address real issues in reality, they won't have anything to show for it, and there is fat chance they will get elected on feigned moral outrage alone.
Are you going to say that to Senator John McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham?
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The delusional part here is believing that sentimental outcry actually accounts for anything. It has never produced anything.
The civil rights movement begs to differ.
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The "Muslim Ban" is an opportunity for anybody and everybody to claim some moral high ground. The problem is there is no Muslim ban. It wears very thin very quickly. There isn't widespread resistance to it other than empty speeches. It will continue to be applied by DHS.
Maybe. You seem really sure about that, though, so quoted for posterity in case the sentimental outcry that "never produces anything" actually does. I'm sure you won't spin that into anything negative though or brush it off as meaningless, and give credit where credit is due.
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Old 30.01.2017, 15:16
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The civil rights movement begs to differ.Maybe. You seem really sure about that, though, so quoted for posterity in case the sentimental outcry that "never produces anything" actually does. I'm sure you won't spin that into anything negative though or brush it off as meaningless, and give credit where credit is due.
There has been no infringement on civil rights, and a lack of civil rights is not what is hampering the country. Cases of bigotry are simply played up and exaggerated, but really isn't what people vote on. The voters are looking for an elevation of their standard of living.

Now, I suppose you can stake a position way on the left, and claim the man is keeping you down. There certainly are those who stake that position. But it isn't the mainstream position.

We have plenty of excellent civil rights in the US. More so than any other place in the world. We just have more people whining about anything and everything.
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There has been no infringement on civil rights, and a lack of civil rights is not what is hampering the country. Cases of bigotry are simply played up and exaggerated, but really isn't what people vote on. The voters are looking for an elevation of their standard of living.

Now, I suppose you can stake a position way on the left, and claim the man is keeping you down. There certainly are those who stake that position. But it isn't the mainstream position.

We have plenty of excellent civil rights in the US. More so than any other place in the world. We just have more people whining about anything and everything.
You sound like a battered wife defending an abusive husband.
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We have plenty of excellent civil rights in the US. More so than any other place in the world. We just have more people whining about anything and everything.
BS.

Maybe more than much of Asia or Africa but certainly not than Scandinavia for example. Less than Switzerland as well I would suggest.
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We have plenty of excellent civil rights in the US. More so than any other place in the world.
"I know civil rights, I have the best civil rights." - country that imprisons more of its population, often for offenses that won't get people anywhere near a jail in the rest of the civilised world, than any other.
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