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Old 30.01.2017, 20:50
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Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the third ranking member of the Senate Democratic leadership, on Tuesday said it may be necessary to halt the resettlement of Syrian refugees in the United States.
Republicans immediately seized on Schumer’s comment, which breaks with other Democrats who have argued against halting the program.

Schumer, however, declined to take the option off the table ahead of a special briefing scheduled for Wednesday afternoon on the process that is now used to vet refugees entering the United States.“We’re waiting for the briefing tomorrow, a pause may be necessary. We’re going to look at it,” he said.
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...y-be-necessary

...oh wait, that was when Obama was president. Now he's totally against any pause in refugees into the US
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No. It's. Not.
How do you work that out Einstein?

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Parliament will consider this for a debate

Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate
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Old 30.01.2017, 20:53
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To date, 500 British MPs have signed it. That's significant!
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No. It's. Not.
Ostrich time
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One thing forsure, he kept his promise. Quite seldom for today's politicians.
Yup, doing what the people voted him in to do.

Shame people only see the negatives though. I guess there will be a few glass half empty types though.
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Loz1983, why do you think it's not significant that 500 MPs have signed it? Assuming the government allows a debate there could be fireworks. And with numbers climbing like that, denying a debate for the petition wouldn't do the government any good in the public's eyes.
No. It's a bag of populist pish. The government would look like a bunch of mongs if they refused Trump after having Saudi, China, Pakistan, Assad all over to have their photo taken with the Queen.
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Old 30.01.2017, 20:57
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How do you work that out Einstein?
BBC: BRING BACK CLARKSON
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Old 30.01.2017, 20:59
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the third ranking member of the Senate Democratic leadership, on Tuesday said it may be necessary to halt the resettlement of Syrian refugees in the United States.
Republicans immediately seized on Schumer’s comment, which breaks with other Democrats who have argued against halting the program.

Schumer, however, declined to take the option off the table ahead of a special briefing scheduled for Wednesday afternoon on the process that is now used to vet refugees entering the United States.“We’re waiting for the briefing tomorrow, a pause may be necessary. We’re going to look at it,” he said.
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...oh wait, that was when Obama was president. Now he's totally against any pause in refugees into the US
But that is a non story.
They had the review in 2015 and decided a pause was not necessary.

So having decided a pause was not necessary in 2015 why do you think he would now change his mind and favour a pause in 2017?
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Old 30.01.2017, 21:00
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Ostrich time
"Trump's a monster!"

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I believe you're out of touch and don't completely understand the scenario.
How incredibly patronizing. Meloncollie is way more in touch with what's up in the US than you are. I'd take her assessment as someone who visits the US frequently, has strong ties there, and knows what she's about before your assessment.

But you said you weren't participating in the thread anyway, so that's good.
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Old 30.01.2017, 21:02
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"Trump's a monster!"

That is not Trump
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Old 30.01.2017, 21:06
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Shame people only see the negatives though. I guess there will be a few glass half empty types though.
Who gives a damn about the glass when the bottle's full
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Old 30.01.2017, 21:06
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- 30'000 based on statistics of foreign residents. 10'000 are Syrians and 7000 are Iraqi.

- An example: Samira Asgari in Lausanne, PhD in genetics from EPFL was supposed to start working at Harvard. She was not allowed to board on a flight to Boston although she had a valid visa.

Is that enough for you?
Having lived through the Iranian hostage thing, I have always been in favor of a total ban of Iranians in the US, and was really pissed off that they weren't all kicked out at the time.

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Old 30.01.2017, 21:07
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You say this, then this?

Then you say...

And I say WTF are you babbling on about Phos? There have been 19 Republican presidents and 15 Democratic. And some real cool cats amongst the Republicans, with the likes of Nixon and Reagan and the Bushes, just stirring racial tensions.

As if an Alt Right like you, wouldn't have supported the three strikes crime bill in the first place. I think you just want to diss anything Democratic on principle.
The level of ignorance on this thread about America is astounding.
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Old 30.01.2017, 21:10
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...I'm sure if you're a US citizen safely living in Switzerland with all its infrastructure and stability, the effects of having that orange buffoon in the White House have negligible impact on your day to day life, same as with Obama and any of them before him.
I hear this a lot but it's just not true, at least for me. I might be living in CH but my entire family is still Stateside and what happens to them does impact my life.

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It could be argued that it was dishonest citizens from the last 50 years that had the negative impact. If they hadn't had siphoned money to offshore accounts and had numerous administrations not fined heavily institutions - your average honest person wouldn't have the issues.
Nah, I blame Hollywood. Every bad guy has a secret Swiss bank account.

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...Just thinking about the massive wave of protests against him and the annihilation of the Republicans at the mid-terms makes me laugh out loud! The Republicans will end up in the wilderness for a generation...
Maybe not. I agree with what Russkov says below:

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...the Republican party is more powerful than it has been in generations. And if you're confident that Democrat voters will overcome their general laziness, as well as god knows what obstacles the Republicans will set up for them in the meantime like more gerrymandered districts and voter suppression, and actually come out to vote in the midterms, you may be as delusional as Phos is.
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There has been no infringement on civil rights, and a lack of civil rights is not what is hampering the country...
Yes, there have. Anyone who has a green card has a right to enter the USA. Those individuals that have been denied entry have had their civil rights infringed upon.

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So how many of you who are spewing your acrimony are actually affected by Trump and his decisions?
It's not necessarily acrimony. Some of it is just concern, but of course the Rs want everyone to think that anyone who disagrees with Trump's actions is "hysterical". Again, Rs are doing a stellar job of controlling the language and the Ds are flubbing it. Schumer's crocodile tears were pathetic.

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I believe you're out of touch and don't completely understand the scenario.
Sorry, LiB but you're the one out of touch here. Maybe this particular order with respect to 7 countries doesn't impact many of us on EF, but Trump has just taken office. He and the Rs have the ability to dramatically change the U.S., for better or for worse by the time he leaves office.
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Old 30.01.2017, 21:11
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BREAKING NEWS: 63 million people don't sign petition.
The can easily get 100 million signatures if they want. Just run the bots 100 million times.


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Yes, there have. Anyone who has a green card has a right to enter the USA. Those individuals that have been denied entry have had their civil rights infringed upon.
Existing green card holders are allowed in. A few experienced travel delays in the beginning. Travel delay = Civil Rights? A bit of a stretch.
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Having lived through the Iranian hostage thing, I have always been in favor of a total ban of Iranians in the US, and was really pissed off that they weren't all kicked out at the time.

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That's a very narrow minded, stupid thing to say. i'm surprised.

Anyway, lots of them came to the US before the hostage crisis.
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Old 30.01.2017, 21:22
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Hmm, reviving old battle plans?:

“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.”

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Existing green card holders are allowed in. A few experienced travel delays in the beginning. Travel delay = Civil Rights? A bit of a stretch.
The delays may continue as the individuals might be held up for extra scrutiny. Same for dual citizens. But yes, they should be admitted.

I want to know if people are really being asked about their social media usage and whether or not they support Trump. And if they are asking everyone or just a subset. Of course immigration practices in the US vary from place to place.
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Old 30.01.2017, 21:32
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lots of them came to the US before the hostage crisis.
And sided with the hostage takers, which totally sickened me (and yes, I heard it directly from various Iranian TAs) ).

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And sided with the hostage takers, which totally sickened me (and yes, I heard it directly from various Iranian TAs) ).

Tom
So I have Iranian friends, none of whom sided with the hostage takers.

Personally, I'd rather kick out the white supremacists, but that's not going to happen either.
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