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Phos and Marton, what's the source of your motivation? I mean seriously... impressive efforts.
Each other. He doesn't realize it, but I'm trying to get Marton to see the light.
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For the millionth time...

I'm not a leftist! I'm from Wigan! There's a huge, massive difference, commonly known as a Wigan kiss which is a flying headbutt with a decent run up. Lilly livers like you wouldn't last a day where I come from and am now.
Of course you don't know what you are.
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Old 31.01.2017, 01:18
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The Trump Around Rap

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Old 31.01.2017, 02:58
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I am sure the script is written by Kafka

The acting US Attorney General has instructed US Justice Dept not to defend any cases against Trump's ban because she does not believe the Executive order is lawful!!!

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On January 27, 2017, the President signed an Executive Order regarding immigrants and refugees from certain Muslim-majority countries. The order has now been challenged in a number of jurisdictions. As the Acting Attorney General, it is my ultimate responsibility to determine the position of the Department of Justice in these actions.

My role is different from that of the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC), which, through administrations of both parties, has reviewed Executive Orders for form and legality before they are issued. OLC’s review is limited to the narrow question of whether, in OLC’s view, a proposed Executive Order is lawful on its face and properly drafted. Its review does not take account of statements made by an administration or it surrogates close in time to the issuance of an Executive Order that may bear on the order’s purpose. And importantly, it does not address whether any policy choice embodied in an Executive Order is wise or just.

Similarly, in litigation, DOJ Civil Division lawyers are charged with advancing reasonable legal arguments that can be made supporting an Executive Order. But my role as leader of this institution is different and broader. My responsibility is to ensure that the position of the Department of Justice is not only legally defensible, but is informed by our best view of what the law is after consideration of all the facts. In addition, I am responsible for ensuring that the positions we take in court remain consistent with this institution’s solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right. At present, I am not convinced that the defense of the Executive Order is consistent with these responsibilities nor am I convinced that the Executive Order is lawful.

Consequently, for as long as I am the Acting Attorney General, the Department of Justice will not present arguments in defense of the Executive Order, unless and until I become convinced that it is appropriate to do so.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The whole thing with the travel ban is incredibly stupid. It doesn't even target the areas where most terrorists trace their heritage from, and the fact that most terror attacks have been done by homegrown terrorists, it is literally nothing more than a show to prance out in front of his supporters, and the world, to say that he did it. And it actually feels weird to say this, but I agree with Lindsey Graham and John McCain, it will probably actually make the problem worse. Whether or not people in those countries are personally effected by it, they'll see it as the United States wanting nothing to do with their people, which can in turn make them easier to radicalize. Proving to the terrorist cells that we paint people in those areas with the same broad brush stroke in this manner just proves the point they try to make to people about western civilization.

It is the same situation with the Wall; it will literally do nothing to solve the problem. A very small amount of illegal immigrants come across by fence hopping, which would also mean that it accounts for a small amount of the drugs being smuggled in. Again, it's just to say "yeah, I said we'd do it, and we did. Winning" However, unlike a temporary travel ban, the wall costs a lot more money.

For most of Americans though, neither of these things effect our day-to-day lives. They irritate me because they don't even accomplish the things that they're supposed to, while also being blatantly discriminating, and in the long-run hurtful to our own people.

His promise about reducing regulations, it will be dependent on how he does it. It really wouldn't surprise me if he essentially just combines 2 regulations into one most general one and says "look, I got rid of 2 for the one I added". But, if he does actually remove regulations, it can be detrimental as they were usually put in place to keep businesses and government organizations from underhanded practices or practices that were obviously harmful to the people and/or environment. It wouldn't surprise me if he does just axe regulations, as it would save companies money. The downside of that being generally the people working for the company won't see any of it, but this will lead into a much longer discussion about the repeated ineffectiveness of similar proposed tax plans and their ability to actually help the middle and lower class.
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Old 31.01.2017, 08:18
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I am sure the script is written by Kafka

The acting US Attorney General has instructed US Justice Dept not to defend any cases against Trump's ban because she does not believe the Executive order is lawful!!!

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And ... no longer Acting Attorney General.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38805944

The Queen is put in a difficult position due to May's rushed invite to Trump.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38805196

Usually the invitation's not issued until at least a year after a new head of State takes office. May couldn't even wait a week.
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Old 31.01.2017, 09:22
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Usually the invitation's not issued until at least a year after a new head of State takes office. May couldn't even wait a week.
In these unpredictable times, she just wants to make sure she'll maintain UK nuclear capability without spending £40 billion:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7541541.html
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Old 31.01.2017, 09:29
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In these unpredictable times, she just wants to make sure she'll maintain UK nuclear capability without spending £40 billion:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7541541.html
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It isn’t a stretch for him to withdraw US support for UK nuclear capabilities too. Without the cooperation of the Trump administration, Trident wouldn't last longer than a couple of months.
Translation: As we don't have to print newspapers anymore, we're just going to make up bollocks instead.
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Old 31.01.2017, 09:40
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Translation: As we don't have to print newspapers anymore, we're just going to make up bollocks instead.
I'm not sure printing has anything to do with it - both the Daily Mail and Guardian print bollocks.
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Old 31.01.2017, 10:08
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Here, take one of these:




And an interesting Russian perspective:

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201...rder-analysis/
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Old 31.01.2017, 10:50
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And an interesting Russian perspective:

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Eastern Europe, the Balkans, the Baltic states "and of course Ukraine" are the main prospects for being 'left the fool' in the new world system, according to Kulikov. Their fate, he lamented, will be to get swallowed up or used by others in the new system that forms from the ashes of the old order.
This "perspective" comes a bit too late....for the rest of us it's been a certitude for like 20 years...
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Old 31.01.2017, 11:09
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The whole thing with the travel ban is incredibly stupid.
Buckle up your seat belt. The EO, which isn't even a ban, is nothing compared to a lot of other more unpopular things coming down the pipeline. There are a lot of other broken things that need to be fixed, and their solutions will not please everybody.

It hasn't even started yet. Its only been Week 1. So choose your battles wisely.
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Old 31.01.2017, 11:27
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Saw this earlier and had a chuckle.. but then I thought of Bannon

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Buckle up your seat belt. The EO, which isn't even a ban, is nothing compared to a lot of other more unpopular things coming down the pipeline. There are a lot of other broken things that need to be fixed, and their solutions will not please everybody.

It hasn't even started yet. Its only been Week 1. So choose your battles wisely.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Following the Quebec mosque shooting, Canada is considering a ban on all Trump supporters until they "figure out what the hell is going on".
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No good.. full of hot air and will be flat as a pancake on arrival

Leave poor Phos alone! Many people love being wound up by him.

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snowflake can handle it..lol

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snowflake can handle it..lol

I agree about the valuable service - top trolling, at times I'm amazed and impressed.
His hatred of liberal foes (real and imagined) blinds him to the obvious disaster that Trump is proving to be.
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And ... no longer Acting Attorney General.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38805944

The Queen is put in a difficult position due to May's rushed invite to Trump.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38805196

Usually the invitation's not issued until at least a year after a new head of State takes office. May couldn't even wait a week.
Replacing a very senior official, Yates, and describing it as betrayal does not answer the question about "unconstitutional", even the President is not above the Constitution.

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Remarkably, Yates was asked in senate confirmation hearings what she would say to a president who wanted to do something unlawful – and the person who asked the question was Jeff Sessions, Trump’s nominee for attorney general.

Sessions prefaced his question by telling Yates: “You have to watch out, because people will be asking you to do things you just need to say no about.

“Do you think the attorney general has a responsibility to say no to the president, if he asks for something that is improper? … If the views the president wants to execute are unlawful, should the attorney general or the deputy attorney general say no?”

Yates told Sessions: “Senator I believe the attorney general or the deputy attorney general has an obligation to follow the law and the Constitution, and to give their independent legal advice to the president.

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