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The EU is in a panic, not knowing how to handle the breach in the echo chamber. It does not know how to handle disruption. Hollande with his 4% approval rating to lead the way.

Isn't that funny?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rump-eu-summit
Hollande (like Trump) is the elected President, you should respect him.
Also (like Trump) his approval ratings used to be better
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A new radical Islamic terrorist has just attacked in Louvre Museum in Paris. Tourists were locked down. France on edge again. GET SMART U.S.
Ummm but, he was from Egypt which is not on Trump's hit list
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Ummm but, he was from Egypt which is not on Trump's hit list
So you're saying Egypt should be added to the executive order?
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Old 03.02.2017, 21:59
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So you're saying Egypt should be added to the executive order?
I am saying that was a very stupid tweet from Trump for ignoring the relevance of the country of origin of the terrorist!
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Old 03.02.2017, 22:06
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It is the principle; not the time involved
I love how I mentioned he was actually held due to a law put in place by Osama Obama in 2015 and the criticism stopped like magic
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I am saying that was a very stupid tweet from Trump for ignoring the relevance of the country of origin of the terrorist!
Why? He never mentioned anything about the executive order? He simply said 'Get smart US'
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Old 03.02.2017, 22:22
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Much as I disliked GWB, I've never understood the mentality of people who wish to believe it was an inside job.
That's because they are generally leftist winos whiners.

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Old 03.02.2017, 22:26
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I agree that she has bastardized facts----as I put it earlier: warped...This is also a 'ban' for individuals who have the characteristics of those killers...
They didn't massacre (or even kill) anyone in Bowling Green, unlike what Conway claimed. It's not a bastardized fact, it's a flat-out lie. The two Iraqis lied on their refugee paperwork and conspired to help terrorist groups in Iraq. Now that doesn't make them standup people by any means, but it's dangerous that so many people like you are gobbling up Conway's lies as truths and regurgitating them.

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I love how I mentioned he was actually held due to a law put in place by Osama Obama in 2015 and the criticism stopped like magic
How mature of you. The fact Obama's order was used in this case doesn't make it any more (or less) acceptable. When the U.S. starts ignoring the diplomatic status of its own allies, then it puts its own personnel abroad at risk for the same treatment or worse.

Also, not that some of you care to read facts but here's a comparison between the two orders: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ration-restri/
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Much as I disliked GWB, I've never understood the mentality of people who wish to believe it was an inside job.
Then you've been well trained. What does your dislike with GWB have to do with anything?
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Bureau of Labor Statistics Jobs Report

The release from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed that the US economy added 227,000 jobs in the month of January.

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They didn't massacre (or even kill) anyone in Bowling Green, unlike what Conway claimed. It's not a bastardized fact, it's a flat-out lie. The two Iraqis lied on their refugee paperwork and conspired to help terrorist groups in Iraq. Now that doesn't make them standup people by any means, but it's dangerous that so many people like you are gobbling up Conway's lies as truths and regurgitating them.

People like me---I'm just trying to set the facts straight. Conway never claimed they killed anyone in Bowling Green. They killed American citizens in Iraq then settled in Bowling Green through a refugee program.
Using the name Bowling Green as a name for the murders in Iraq is a political trick---yes very deceiving---to refer to the incident of terrorists gaining access to the US through refugee channels. Much like 'watergate' scandal now refers to many of the illegal acts of the Nixon regime-whether or not they were obtained from the break-in at the watergate complex.

There was killings by terrorists, they were planning more, Obama set stricter guidelines on immigration because they were able to settle in Bowling Green.

It is not as much a lie as a political trick and misuse of words to convey an intended message----but of course 'people like you' should know that if you know political history.
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People like me---I'm just trying to set the facts straight. Conway never claimed they killed anyone in Bowling Green. They killed American citizens in Iraq then settled in Bowling Green through a refugee program.
Using the name Bowling Green as a name for the murders in Iraq is a political trick---yes very deceiving---to refer to the incident of terrorists gaining access to the US through refugee channels. Much like 'watergate' scandal now refers to many of the illegal acts of the Nixon regime-whether or not they were obtained from the break-in at the watergate complex.

There was killings by terrorists, they were planning more, Obama set stricter guidelines on immigration because they were able to settle in Bowling Green.

It is not as much a lie as a political trick and misuse of words to convey an intended message----but of course 'people like you' should know that if you know political history.
"They killed American citizens in Iraq" Do you have a source for this?
Both men pleaded guilty to conspiring to kill U.S. nationals abroad but I never saw any confirmation they actually killed an American?
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People like me---I'm just trying to set the facts straight. Conway never claimed they killed anyone in Bowling Green. They killed American citizens in Iraq then settled in Bowling Green through a refugee program.
Using the name Bowling Green as a name for the murders in Iraq is a political trick---yes very deceiving---to refer to the incident of terrorists gaining access to the US through refugee channels. Much like 'watergate' scandal now refers to many of the illegal acts of the Nixon regime-whether or not they were obtained from the break-in at the watergate complex.

There was killings by terrorists, they were planning more, Obama set stricter guidelines on immigration because they were able to settle in Bowling Green.

It is not as much a lie as a political trick and misuse of words to convey an intended message----but of course 'people like you' should know that if you know political history.
I think you're inventing an explanation that Conway herself didn't even give. She might want to keep that "political trick" idea in her back pocket. She used the exact term "Bowing Green Massacre" in the TV interview and has now said she meant to say "Bowing Green terrorists".

Her own tweet: https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/s...05588808667136

More info here, but keep in mind the source isn't exactly neutral like Fox News.

I'm willing to give her a break. It's got to be hard to keep up with the spin being generated by Bannon and Trump, and kudos to her for appearing on a show like Hardball, which isn't known for fluffy questions.

Edit to add - In the U.S., the term massacre (when attached to the name of a place) generally means the killing happened at that site. Examples: Columbine, Sandy Hook, Wounded Knee.

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"They killed American citizens in Iraq" Do you have a source for this?
Both men pleaded guilty to conspiring to kill U.S. nationals abroad but I never saw any confirmation they actually killed an American?
I never saw any confirmation myself either----on that note, I never saw anyone actually killed in WWII, but that's beside the point.

Apparently the FBI have recorded evidence of the individuals admitting and bragging about the murders. But again that's beside the point.

I'm not sure what is important to all of you in politics--if it's semantics in language of political exaggerations -- by all means this is an outrage---and I never denied this, and have agreed numerous times (see above) that the statements have been twisted.

For me the topic that should be addressed: Is the ability of terrorists to gain access to American land. This is a cut and dry case where lack of policy allowed known terrorists to use the refugee system and settle in the US. This concept is a lot more important than how a situation is named, or referred to.

It's true, that it was not the best name to refer to the incident (although for anyone who reads the news or follows politics even slightly, it was obvious what incident she was referring to). Maybe Conway should have referred to them as the Baghdad Two --- but I'm sure people would be furious because there were ACTUALLY from Abu Ghuraib. LIES LIES!!!!
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I am saying that was a very stupid tweet from Trump for ignoring the relevance of the country of origin of the terrorist!
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Why? He never mentioned anything about the executive order? He simply said 'Get smart US'
I also did not mention the executive order
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I never saw any confirmation myself either----on that note, I never saw anyone actually killed in WWII, but that's beside the point.

Apparently the FBI have recorded evidence of the individuals admitting and bragging about the murders. But again that's beside the point.

I'm not sure what is important to all of you in politics--if it's semantics in language of political exaggerations -- by all means this is an outrage---and I never denied this, and have agreed numerous times (see above) that the statements have been twisted.

For me the topic that should be addressed: Is the ability of terrorists to gain access to American land. This is a cut and dry case where lack of policy allowed known terrorists to use the refugee system and settle in the US. This concept is a lot more important than how a situation is named, or referred to.

It's true, that it was not the best name to refer to the incident (although for anyone who reads the news or follows politics even slightly, it was obvious what incident she was referring to). Maybe Conway should have referred to them as the Baghdad Two --- but I'm sure people would be furious because there were ACTUALLY from Abu Ghuraib. LIES LIES!!!!
"This is a cut and dry case where lack of policy allowed known terrorists to use the refugee system and settle in the US." And Obama reacted to this case and improved the vetting procedure!
There is no evidence that this improved vetting procedure that was introduced post this case has failed and allowed more terrorists into the US.
So Conway should not use this example; it is no longer relevant and should be consigned to history.

There is no description or detail of how Trump's plan to change this process will make any improvement, so far it is all bla bla.

She also said "...two Iraqis came here to this country, were radicalized...." which implies they were radicalized after they entered the US which is also rubbish.

For me the saddest part of this whole story is people fail to congratulate the US intelligence services for matching fingerprints from an unexploded IED with an Iraqi "refugee" settled in the US; that is a breath taking piece of work!
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Bureau of Labor Statistics Jobs Report

The release from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed that the US economy added 227,000 jobs in the month of January.

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Love that phrasing, "big league". Even though these numbers are from before Trump was inaugurated, he's made his plan on job growth clear. I would be surprised if the numbers don't continue. Forget the carrot, the stick seems to work far better!
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Apropos of nothing, I just read an article where somebody used a tech analyzer tool to access the Twitter API and so mine Twitter metadata.

For Trump it shows many of his tweets do not come from his favourite Android phone so presumably somebody else in his team is tweeting for him!
Also there is a lot of location data showing from where the tweets were sent.

I guess if one had the time one could do a lot of analysis; apparently the metadata associated with a tweet is 20 times the size of the tweet!

For example one might want to ignore or discount tweets that did not originate from an Android phone?

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Love that phrasing, "big league". Even though these numbers are from before Trump was inaugurated, he's made his plan on job growth clear. I would be surprised if the numbers don't continue. Forget the carrot, the stick seems to work far better!
But the same report said "the unemployment rate ticked up slightly to 4.8%."
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Apropos of nothing, I just read an article where somebody used a tech analyzer tool to access the Twitter API and so mine Twitter metadata.

For Trump it shows many of his tweets do not come from his favourite Android phone so presumably somebody else in his team is tweeting for him!
Also there is a lot of location data showing from where the tweets were sent.

I guess if one had the time one could do a lot of analysis; apparently the metadata associated with a tweet is 20 times the size of the tweet!

For example one might want to ignore or discount tweets that did not originate from an Android phone?

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