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Has Trump officially said anything about the way women must dress?

Or is all this poppycock based on an (unfounded) rumour?
It doesn't even matter whether it's a founded or unfounded rumour. At this point everything seems plausible!
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At the moment it remains whiney losers explaining why they should have won because the other side didn't understand what they were doing.

And so you end up with big companies run by whiney losers who get all loud and shouty - and failing to understand how democracy works. 1 person - 1 vote. From the highly educated Harvard Professor to the banjo-playing, cousin marrying, corn whisky swigging, pig farmer in Kentucky.

The more the whiney losers scream and shout about how outrageous Trump is and how he really shouldn't keep his election promises the more time he will spend doing outrageous things.

The more the whiney losers scream and shout the more the Trump voters who voted Trump purely because they were fed up of the shouty East and West coasters telling them what to do, the more those voters will become staunch in their views. A position they currently do not hold. The American public is polarized, perhaps not as much as the media is trying to lead us to believe, but it is still polarized. If the whiney losers stepped off the whiney peddle for just a minute and accepted the results and the regime that was voted in by the electoral system in place, then things might stand a chance of getting better.

And perhaps instead of being whiney losers the companies actually tried to figure how to work with the POTUS and his plans, and explain how immigration works for the benefit of the country things might settle down and progress be made.

To reiterate, the one thing the whiney losers really don't want to happen is for Trump to resign, be impeached, be shot and for Pence to take over.
On a whiney loser level, it does seem awfully glaring that those calling out the "whiney losers" today were those who themselves were the whiney losers (err.. for both terms ) every time a policy came into being under Obama, or were bleating about whatever detail of his presidency got under their collecting whiney skins.

I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

They are really cashing in, aren't they..?
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To reiterate, the one thing the whiney losers really don't want to happen is for Trump to resign, be impeached, be shot and for Pence to take over.
Any day. I'll take Pence's predictable evil over Trump's volatility and seemingly-daily discovery that he isn't a dictator. I'd rather America's influence, for its citizens and those of other countries, be the serious business that it is, rather than the potential apocalypse in joke's clothing that it is now.
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Bercow is insane. The questionable leaders that have been allowed to speak in Parliament under his watch prove him to be a hypocrite. He's supposed to be impartial and virtue signalling has just made him look like a prat.

What's worse still is that it won't achieve anything. Trump is no politician and won't care at all to speak in Parliament. He has Twitter.
The ironic thing is that Bercow, before becoming Speaker, was a Tory (although on the liberal side of the party.

I have seen a few butthurt right wingers claiming that he was Labour.
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The ironic thing is that Bercow, before becoming Speaker, was a Tory (although on the liberal side of the party.

I have seen a few butthurt right wingers claiming that he was Labour.
Most likely mistaking him for his awful wife.
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Bercow is insane. The questionable leaders that have been allowed to speak in Parliament under his watch prove him to be a hypocrite. He's supposed to be impartial and virtue signalling has just made him look like a prat.
Maybe he's caught between a rock and a hard place and just had to weigh up what would cause him the biggest headache.

I imagine the backlash, regardless of what your feelings are on the protesting public, left-wing press, petitions, vagina hats or whatever comes out of the woodwork would be an utter tsunami which would rumble on for weeks and result in a shitstorm centred around Bercow, compared to if he just nipped it in the bud here and now.

Can't say I blame him.

I'm sure he'll be relieved if the Trump carnival shifted onto someone else's responsibility to give him a podium.
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Maybe he's caught between a rock and a hard place and just had to weigh up what would cause him the biggest headache.

I imagine the backlash, regardless of what your feelings are on the protesting public, left-wing press, petitions, vagina hats or whatever comes out of the woodwork would be an utter tsunami which would rumble on for weeks and result in a shitstorm centred around Bercow, compared to if he just nipped it in the bud here and now.

Can't say I blame him.

I'm sure he'll be relieved if the Trump carnival shifted onto someone else's responsibility to give him a podium.
Really?? It's his job not to have an opinion. If he'd have kept his mouth shut then no one would have had a word to say about him. The focus would have remained on Theresa May for inviting Trump to the UK in the first place.

By expressing his views, Bercow has managed to make it all about him.
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On a whiney loser level, it does seem awfully glaring that those calling out the "whiney losers" today were those who themselves were the whiney losers (err.. for both terms ) every time a policy came into being under Obama, or were bleating about whatever detail of his presidency got under their collecting whiney skins.

I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

They are really cashing in, aren't they..?
Are you saying the political landscape in the US is completely FUBAR - and the whole country should be nuked? And we start again??

I hope not - that would be a waste of good nukes
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Ummm...when Marton posted that it was yesterday

...and I think he was more commenting on the liklihood of Reagan thanking Trump for the birthday wishes....
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Are you saying the political landscape in the US is completely FUBAR - and the whole country should be nuked? And we start again??

I hope not - that would be a waste of good nukes
No

Just pointing out that neither side of the political landscape can claim to be whiney-loser-free, and that I can recall an abundance of it during the Obama terms.

Where you choose to sit on that political landscape, influences your view of whether someone has a valid point or is just a whiney-loser.

I find the complaints of the people in the office across the hall who have been informed they have to cough up a financial contribution for the bathroom cleaning and bog roll they use on a daily basis to be whiney losers. They think they are justifiably indignant and are completely in the right. Such is life.
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Ah. Well since I refuse to assume health based on appearance, it is not a desirable effect, imho. Not appropriate to discuss here though or on EF at all.
Exactly- and we are discussing the difference between a choice, and an unacceptable imposition, on one gender, by another.
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Where you choose to sit on that political landscape, influences your view of whether someone has a valid point or is just a whiney-loser.
The point is that there isn't a political landscape in the US - there is either (using the terms of the opposition) the Nazis or the Communists. (Which neither side actually is).

Because the US's landscape has just right or left is doesn't adequately cater for those who views contain much from both sides - often split economically or socially.

When it comes to election time those voters will decide based on which of their beliefs they are happier to compromise in order to satisfy their others.

The post-election whining (from either side) only fuels the polarization. Perhaps bringing the parties closer would better serve the country - even if fundamental differences remain
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Exactly- and we are discussing the difference between a choice, and an unacceptable imposition, on one gender, by another.
So would the instruction be Ok if Donald were a woman?
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Really?? It's his job not to have an opinion. If he'd have kept his mouth shut then no one would have had a word to say about him. The focus would have remained on Theresa May for inviting Trump to the UK in the first place.

By expressing his views, Bercow has managed to make it all about him.
It's also his job, as one of the three people who are consulted on the issue, to make a judgment call on who can address the houses.
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So would the instruction be Ok if Donald were a woman?
Good point. No.

Although Trumps history of his behaviour towards women is very likely to influence how things are perceived.
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Too late to let it go, Trump seems to believe in the Bowling Green Massacre


Goddarn Press not reporting the the Bowling Green Massacre

Is this guy really the President or is it some sort of giant hoax
To support Trump's ridiculous claim that the newspapers fail to report terrorist attacks, the White House has distributed a list of the "under reported" incidents.
This list includes such "under reported" incidents as the two major Paris attacks, the Berlin Christmas market, the Brussels bombings, the Boston Marathon, the Orlando incident and the Nice atrocity.
Although Trump specifically said there were "under reported" incidents in Europe the list is actually world wide even including Russia, Afghanistan and Bangladesh amongst others!
Trump is still ignoring the Quebec atrocity

Source (including the list)
I do not usually quote Buzzfeed but they do have the full WH list.

Trump really seems to be losing it or his staff decided to publish a nonsense list to diss him!
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So would the instruction be Ok if Donald were a woman?
No
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A woman in a pant-suit then. Palatable for some.
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This list includes such "under reported" incidents as the two major Paris attacks, the Berlin Christmas market, the Brussels bombings, the Boston Marathon, the Orlando incident and the Nice atrocity.
"Under-reported", apart from being headline news in just about every major news outlet in the Western hemisphere. Sure, Donald .
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