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Trump really seems to be losing it or his staff decided to publish a nonsense list to diss him!
Or he gets his news from the sort of sites that constantly preface their news with "Well now, you won't hear about this in the liberal media".
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Or he gets his news from the sort of sites that constantly preface their news with "Well now, you won't hear about this in the liberal media".
Or:
"He was elected President, but what he did next will astound you!"
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I remember the good ol' days when a lady dressed like a lady; not because she was told to but because she wanted to dagnabbit!

I'm pretty sure the sandwiches used to be better back then too
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Although Trumps history of his behaviour towards women is very likely to influence how things are perceived.
It certainly does, no doubt, including how "dress like a woman" is received even though it's completely unclear what he actually means by that. For instance according one insider quoted by the telegraph "Even if you're in jeans, you need to look neat and orderly." which in my mind points to a fair expectation - do note that he's Ok with people wearing jeans, perhaps subject to the actual situation.

What's more, I find the demand that "the best outfit for a woman is whatever makes her comfortable" blind on more than just one eye. For instance no business other than a beach resort would accept any employee, female or not, working in any kind of bathing suit. And don't even get me started on nudists, many of who would work naked if allowed regardless of the surroundings. Similarly, I have no doubt nobody would object to the demand to wear clean clothes only and not stink of sweat.

We all are to conform to certain standards and demands in the way we dress. From what is known it's far from clear to me if Trump's demand is indeed inappropriate.

(don't expect me to follow up on this, I probably won't in order to not derail the thread any further)
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To reiterate, the one thing the whiney losers really don't want to happen is for Trump to resign, be impeached, be shot and for Pence to take over.
Logically, you take Pence out first to put the wind up Trump, then watch him spontaneously combust.

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So would the instruction be Ok if Donald were a woman?
Hell no! That would be even worse! Lead by example not by diktat.

Peter York is a genius when it comes to explaining dress codes in the city. https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/771376234936741889
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It certainly does, no doubt, including how "dress like a woman" is received even though it's completely unclear what he actually means by that. For instance according one insider quoted by the telegraph "Even if you're in jeans, you need to look neat and orderly." which in my mind points to a fair expectation - do note that he's Ok with people wearing jeans, perhaps subject to the actual situation.

What's more, I find the demand that "the best outfit for a woman is whatever makes her comfortable" blind on more than just one eye. For instance no business other than a beach resort would accept any employee, female or not, working in any kind of bathing suit. And don't even get me started on nudists, many of who would work naked if allowed regardless of the surroundings. Similarly, I have no doubt nobody would object to the demand to wear clean clothes only and not stink of sweat.

We all are to conform to certain standards and demands in the way we dress. From what is known it's far from clear to me if Trump's demand is indeed inappropriate.

(don't expect me to follow up on this, I probably won't in order to not derail the thread any further)
it's inappropriate because it is Trump's demand
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Not sure where you are going with this question, but the UC system, with its 10 campuses, does have a selective entry policy. One has to have a certain level of grades and test scores. If you do not qualify, there is the CA State schools (23 campuses) and below that there are the CA community colleges where anyone can register for classes.

They are all public institutions and run by the CA gov't. Funding comes from CA taxes, Federal funding, private donors and student fees.

As publicly funded institutions, college campuses (across the country) have been a controversial battle ground for so-called "free speech." Berkeley is known for launching the "Free Speech Movement" on college campuses back in the 60s, as a protest against the conservative establishment that ran the University of CA, "back in the day." Ronald Reagan was also Governor of CA at that time.

So a bit ironic, that 50 yrs later it is the left trying to shut down the Conservative side represented by Milo. Of course, that is precisely why he chose college campuses for his US Tour.

This article discusses the issue (it is from RT, so consider the source), and I think it outlines the topic pretty well: https://www.rt.com/usa/first-amendme...-colleges-029/

Here is another perspective: http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/...lege-campuses/

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So can anyone who wants to study there just go there and study, or do they in fact have a selective entry policy for that too?
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Not sure where you are going with this question, but the UC system, with its 10 campuses, does have a selective entry policy. One has to have a certain level of grades and test scores. If you do not qualify, there is the CA State schools (23 campuses) and below that there are the CA community colleges where anyone can register for classes.

They are all public institutions and run by the CA gov't. Funding comes from CA taxes, Federal funding, private donors and student fees.

As publicly funded institutions, college campuses (across the country) have been a controversial battle ground for so-called "free speech." Berkeley is known for launching the "Free Speech Movement" on college campuses back in the 60s, as a protest against the conservative establishment that ran the University of CA, "back in the day." Ronald Reagan was also Governor of CA at that time.

So a bit ironic, that 50 yrs later it is the left trying to shut down the Conservative side represented by Milo. Of course, that is precisely why he chose college campuses for his US Tour.

This article discusses the issue (it is from RT, so consider the source), and I think it outlines the topic pretty well: https://www.rt.com/usa/first-amendme...-colleges-029/

Here is another perspective: http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/...lege-campuses/
Hi, I was just suggesting that the colleges do not indeed have to admit everyone who wants to go, just because they are federally funded. It appears they afforded some level of discretion in the students they admit.

I would think it therefore logical that they are afforded the same level of discretion in choosing who should be invited to speak there.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

We are having some cliches challenged and not only it is healthy but also incredibly entertaining. Femlibs pose the pseudo problem as a denial of choice, but not only it is a question of a simple professional dress code, femininity does not translate to undercover mysogyny or caving into guys' lewd urges (as Anglo girls have been brainwashed).

In reality, who's got the shorter end of the stick: girls, who choose between pants/dress/skirt or guys who pick between....Let me think. Pants? Who is being opressed into stereotypical and cliched standard: boys or girls? Guys have no choice than wearing pants, uncomfortable and every single day.

Yes - a dress is uncompromising, one has to take care of oneself to pull it off. But it is like with anything else. It is at the end not a bad incentive, is it.
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The Clash were an English punk rock band well known for the song; "I fought the law and the law won"
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We are having some cliches challenged and not only it is healthy but also incredibly entertaining. Femlibs pose the pseudo problem as a denial of choice, but not only it is a question of a simple professional dress code, en plus - femininity does not translates to undercover mysogyny or caving into guys' lewd urges (as have Anglo girls been brainwashed).

In reality, who's got the shorter end of the stick: girls, who choose between pants/dress/skirt or guys who pick between....Let me think. Pants? Who is being opressed into stereotypical and cliched standard: boys or girls? Guys have no choice than wearing pants, uncomfortable and every single day.

Yes - a dress is uncompromising, one has to take care of oneself to pull it off. But it is like with anything else. It is at the end not a bad incentive, is it.
I think it's slightly more disturbing that so much onus is on the type and shape of women's clothing rather than just a one-stop address to all employees to "dress appropriately, respectfully and professionally". Maybe if you are feeling particularly detailed about the whole thing, stick in an additional "no bright colours" across the board. Nothing "femlib" about that.

A critique of women having to "take care of oneself" in order to "pull off" wearing a dress is, if you look at it in the grand scheme of things, wholly unnecessary and has no bearing on anyone's ability to do the job. it's frankly a bit cringeworthy, too.

Clever tailoring means that anyone can pretty much get away with any kind of dress or suit and still look professional.


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Actually, on the subject of men wearing only trousers and not dresses/skirts, I think Donald McTrump would be eligible to fashion a kilt out of this.
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A critique of women having to "take care of oneself" in order to "pull off" wearing a dress is, if you look at it in the grand scheme of things, wholly unnecessary and has no bearing on anyone's ability to do the job. it's frankly a bit cringeworthy, too. .
What is cringeworthy is the fact that a large percentage of real adressees of these messages are so big, they are denied the choice between feminine or not, even between a dress and sweatpants. People who are in a professional political setting take care of themselves. Trump knows this. But a nation that keeps chanting that obese is beautiful, and everybody gets a medal, and a girl is more than a boy, is living in a comical oblivion. Michelle Obama tried to change it, but I guess wiggling one's butt in a hoolahop on TV screens didn't do so much. Trump is a buldozer, he may actually have some results.
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What is cringeworthy is the fact that a large percentage of real adressees of these messages are so big, they are denied the choice between feminine or not, even between a dress and sweatpants. People who are in a professional political setting take care of themselves. Trump knows this. But a nation that keeps chanting that obese is beautiful, and everybody gets a medal, and a girl is more than a boy, is living in a comical oblivion. Michelle Obama tried to change it, but I guess wiggling one's butt in a hoolahop on TV screens didn't so much. Trump is a buldozer, he may actually have some results.
So you are saying that Trump is the one to solve the obesity crisis by telling women to "dress like women" at the White House?
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Nothing "femlib" about that.
And can I please add... What the hell's a 'femlib' when it's at home?!
My Catholic high school resisted allowing girls to wear trousers until 1981 because, whilst the fashion in my year had been long straight skirts, the year below us went for short as was decent. So the school brought in the trouser option for girls and the mini skirts were never seen again.

Dress code in the work place should always be role appropriate, and having spent 15yrs of my working life in steel toe-capped, rubber soled shoes, overalls and a hairnet, the chance to wear anything other was warmly embraced. I find it remarkable (and quite sad) that in this day and age, workplace dress code for women is even an issue.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

It would be totally different if Trump was a women (although in theory it shouldn't!).


The left-sided attack always comes on behalf of the minority (or in this case the oppressed). The reverse isn't valid, because the group hasn't endured years of oppression.


Similarly many comments about Trumps appearance are very common, and acceptable (about his hair, his skin colour, the size of his hands). If Trump was a women there would be outrage! At it can be seen, when physical attributes are commented on about women in politics or any position of success and power---there is always outrage from the left.


Similarly, Canada is very proud and popular now because of their inclusive policy of accepting Muslim refugees. Go Canada!
What is commonly ignored is that single male refugees are almost 100%rejected from refugee status---Hidden in the 'vetting process', yet not a single case of one getting though. If this was a minority vetting, or oppressed group vetting---there would be hell to raise.
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I would prefer it if the female members of EF would refrain from posting until they are suitably dressed.
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Have you hacked their webcams too??
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Have you hacked their webcams too??
No, for that they would need to be suitable undressed.
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Never ever thought I could or would groan at you MC. Sad.

Your personal choice is fine for YOU, and you alone- and has no place on this thread. There are 1000s of girls out there, and increasingly boys- who suffer from anorexia and lack of essential vitamins and minerals, etc (leading to osteoporosis and other serious conditions) - due to the pressures of being thin - so the equation 'thin = healthy' just doesn't work anymore. The diabetologist I consult tells me of some of his teenage patients who are so sick, have to have amputations and even die- as they refuse to take their insulin for fear of putting weight on. But this is for another thread entirely.

As for Trump the bulldozer finally leading to 'results' - and in this context to dress code imposition- it is so OOO. As for Michelle wriggling her bum comment No.

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Trump's new WH dress code: No fat chicks.
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