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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Trump won because people are no longer free to say what they want. Except at the ballot box. And this is why the Left will keep losing.
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The angry, bitter and outraged sense of entitlement by the Left now is exactly why Brexit and Trump succeeded.
I'd say - people got tired of self-promoting know-it-alls. I attribute zero authenticity to them, even the extreme level of outrage and hysterics are faked, to score popularity, audience and worthless selfperpetuating feeling of selfimportance.

Trump is not sorry to break it to them: opining is not what makes things move. The world has gotten tired of people who talk too much because they think virtual platform equals actually being interesting or genuine. Just because somebody is outraged, it doesn't mean they know what they are talking about.

The media development is indeed interesting..censorship seems to rule these days, let's see how credible it stays for users before they turn away to more credible media.
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Old 13.02.2017, 21:52
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/picture...ueen-trump.jpg



Meanwhile, someone is not happy with Theresa May...
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Trump is not sorry to break it to them: opining is not what makes things move. The world has gotten tired of people who talk too much because they think virtual platform equals actually being interesting or genuine. Just because somebody is outraged, it doesn't mean they know what they are talking about.
Oh my, wow. Because Trump does not 'opine'- and knows what he is talking about- really???

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The onus is always on who delivers the message, not the recipient.
You just stated your standards on - easily distracted, typos, etc. Good for you!

I don't think Kraut cares, nor was his pretty interesting contribution about cosmetics.

I don't think Trump cares, either, and what is entertaining - people go into this overkill outrage as if it was going to change the way things are. Rhetorics change nothing. Thinking, however, does. For that resources are needed. Trump is actually worried about resources. None of the opposition have brought any reasonable plan for resources. I would not expect it from the left. People are very quick as per investments.
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I don't think Trump cares, either
Maybe he'll care when he gets himself impeached. Maybe he won't, and he'll just go back to doing the Apprentice: business as usual.

I am not even outraged anymore, to be honest. I would end up being outraged all day every day, otherwise. I just go about my day-to-day life as I did before, getting involved in my community as I did before, and I wait for the proverbial body to float down the river.

At the same time, I'll be very honest: I am glad we have multiple passports, and the incredible luxury of deciding where we want to live.
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Old 13.02.2017, 22:45
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A pretty forensic analysis of Trump's lies by John Oliver

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Old 13.02.2017, 22:58
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Everything is "business as usual" in the US. It is naieve to think otherwise. Business pushed the country ahead in many ways. There are positives of that entrepreneurial mindset, that people seem to sneer at in Europe but cannot seem to be able to immitate. Reassessing rights for entry is probably first pretty efficient way to assert country's autonomy. If anybody is about to chime in with"we are all one big planet...the citizens of the world", just own up hypocritically that we are glad to be further from some countries than others, at the moment. I think banning entry for a bit is a reminder of wider community wanting to push on safety in those countries. Trade offs. Otherwise - their territory, their sovereignty. As it is, violent honor crime seems to flourish across the borders.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Would not claim to be outraged by Trump; it is more like a farce playing on some distant stage that I can tune into or not.

Of course the warmth generated by this amusement could as quickly turn into something cold and nasty like when you wet your trousers

I lean towards the view that Trump is smarter then he looks and is manipulating his audience. How well that manipulation is working is open to question.

Hammering the Press for creating fake news should have been a death blow to an already dying media; instead it seems to have generated a minor revival

Contrariwise, his heavy use of Twitter should have regenerated this also failing social media but the latest financial results were poor. Twitter has to pour huge resources into coping with the enormous traffic he generates but it seems this expanding audience is not generating the revenue needed to revive Twitter financially.

Using Twitter to bypass the usual media is a clever move to talk direct to his audience but also his Achilles Heel; if he gets into some serious dispute with the forces of law and order and they respond by shutting down Twitter then he will be struck totally dumb. He has no plan B for such effective communication?
Even worse for him if they take over his account and use it
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Everything is "business as usual" in the US. It is naieve to think otherwise. Business pushed the country ahead in many ways. There are positives of that entrepreneurial mindset, that people seem to sneer at in Europe but cannot seem to be able to immitate. Reassessing rights for entry is probably first pretty efficient way to assert country's autonomy. If anybody is about to chime in with"we are all one big planet...the citizens of the world", just own up hypocritically that we are glad to be further from some countries than others, at the moment. I think banning entry for a bit is a reminder of wider community wanting to push on safety in those countries. Trade offs. Otherwise - their territory, their sovereignty. As it is, violent honor crime seems to flourish across the borders.
"banning entry for a bit " Trying to deliver a Campaign promise; you could say his heart was in the right place but where was his brain?.

Obama demonstrated you could do something similar but he is a Constitutional lawyer so his Executive orders were not so easy to push over.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-flynn/516579/

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Great! Having lost one guy who lied about his connections now they're considering another one to replace him?

"David Patraeus, the retired general and former CIA director who pleaded guilty to sharing classified information with his biographer and lover, is reportedly among the candidates for the permanent position ..."
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Trump won because people are no longer free to say what they want. Except at the ballot box. And this is why the Left will keep losing.
Seems to me this is a bit of a misnomer or alternative fact.

Who has actually been prevented from saying what they want? Sure, if they say something we perceive to be racist, xenophobic, etc, they will get called out on it, but nobody is being prevented from SAYING anything.
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Seems to me this is a bit of a misnomer or alternative fact.

Who has actually been prevented from saying what they want? Sure, if they say something we perceive to be racist, xenophobic, etc, they will get called out on it, but nobody is being prevented from SAYING anything.
I'm sure Piers will survive. Isn't "F off" basically how Brits and Australians say hello to each other anyway?
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I'm sure Piers will survive. Isn't "F off" basically how Brits and Australians say hello to each other anyway?
Not habitually, but it is how almost everyone "greets" Piers Morgan.
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Seems to me this is a bit of a misnomer or alternative fact.

Who has actually been prevented from saying what they want? Sure, if they say something we perceive to be racist, xenophobic, etc, they will get called out on it, but nobody is being prevented from SAYING anything.
Lol, "alternative fact". Did you not see the reaction to Piers Morgan saying Trump wasn't Hitler? Or do you remember the reaction to Ann Coulter (below)?

Ridicule and aggression. Two ways of trying to silence people. The polls were so inaccurate for exactly this reason.

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A pretty forensic analysis of Trump's lies by John Oliver
Lest we forget:

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Interesting how quiet Trump's chief cheerleaders on EF have gone, now that Trump's lies have been exposed and his administration is already starting to fall apart. I thought it would take at least a year, but again Trump has proven me wrong.
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Lol, "alternative fact". Did you not see the reaction to Piers Morgan saying Trump wasn't Hitler? Or do you remember the reaction to Ann Coulter (below)?

Ridicule and aggression. Two ways of trying to silence people. The polls were so inaccurate for exactly this reason.
What's wrong with ridicule? This is surely the best tool.
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