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Over 60m voted for him - or more than the entire population of Italy
When responding to 22yards I wasn't talking about voters (many of whom can vote on a whim and for various reasons), we were talking about people championing/cheerleading his cause on the forum, people who passionately believe in him. Two very different things.

I know a huge proportion of the population of the US are ****-wits, that is somewhat self-explanatory.
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You've never had to write a statistics story have you. In doing so you are perfectly entitled to cherry pick the numbers that best tell your story - and that includes picking numbers which don't make sense. So 66/320 is perfectly OK - especially if the story will appear on Fox "News"

A nice headline would be "400% more people didn't vote Clinton" - it doesn't make sense - but I fail to see why I should make sense in the world of US politics!
yes I have, no it's not ok, but you're quite correct - the US is long past the need to make any sort of sense.
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we were talking about people championing/cheerleading his cause on the forum, people who passionately believe in him. Two very different things.
Apart from Phos, everyone else is just trolling Marton
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UK government response to the petition.

"Government responded:

HM Government believes the President of the United States should be extended the full courtesy of a State Visit. We look forward to welcoming President Trump once dates and arrangements are finalised.

HM Government recognises the strong views expressed by the many signatories of this petition, but does not support this petition.

During her visit to the United States on 27 January 2017, the Prime Minister, on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen, invited President Trump for a State Visit to the UK later this year. The invitation was accepted. This invitation reflects the importance of the relationship between the United States of America and the United Kingdom. At this stage, final dates have not yet been agreed for the State Visit.

Foreign and Commonwealth Office"

https://petition.parliament.uk/petit...onse-threshold

Due for debate on the 20th February. Might actually make the deathly dull Parliamentary broadcast worth watching.
Well, the petition was - as to all that comes from the GB people - only advisory.
And who knows who will be the acting American president "later this year"?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I still have hope for him. I'm not shocked of what he is doing, I also don't agree with all the moves he's made--but I also don't have a PhD in Political Science so my opinion is probably pretty irrelevant.
The same with any other leader who I don't agree with, one still has to work with them and overlook media spectacle and tweets and whatever.
Best bet is to work with him to make decisions that are as beneficial to as many as possible. Might not always be perfect, but finding a middle ground.
Calling him names and awaiting his 'impeachment' isn't doing any good--it's just him manipulating you into missing the big picture. He's a very good showman which works well for a country that 'all about the show'.
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I still have hope for him. I'm not shocked of what he is doing, I also don't agree with all the moves he's made--but I also don't have a PhD in Political Science so my opinion is probably pretty irrelevant.
You are just as qualified to be the political leader of your country of birth as Trump is. Doesn't that worry you at all?
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I still have hope for him. I'm not shocked of what he is doing, I also don't agree with all the moves he's made--but I also don't have a PhD in Political Science so my opinion is probably pretty irrelevant.
The same with any other leader who I don't agree with, one still has to work with them and overlook media spectacle and tweets and whatever.
Best bet is to work with him to make decisions that are as beneficial to as many as possible. Might not always be perfect, but finding a middle ground.
Calling him names and awaiting his 'impeachment' isn't doing any good--it's just him manipulating you into missing the big picture. He's a very good showman which works well for a country that 'all about the show'.
I think you post is ambitiously too reasonable amidst the theatral calls for obstruction.
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You are just as qualified to be the political leader of your country of birth as Trump is. Doesn't that worry you at all?
He did run the Trump organization, he had a successful reality show. I know many people would like to say: he's a bumbbling idiot/manchild/blablabla. But these aren't easy feats by any means---they do take skill, work, effort and ability.
Coming off as an 'idiot' for your public image is nothing new--many people have done it very calculated and very successfully.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

But I'm not talking about image. You said...
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but I also don't have a PhD in Political Science so my opinion is probably pretty irrelevant.
... I was merely making the point that your opinion is just as relevent as Trump. The difference is that you're not so audacious as to think you have what it takes to run the US.

One man cannot run the US, it takes a team and in Trump's shoes, my No.1 requirement for any role I were to appoint would be integrity. Trump's strong suit is his ability to delegate. If he attempts to micro-manage he will fail horribly, but to delegate effectively, you need to be 100% sure of the integrity of your team members.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

It makes me laugh when folks take a person making an impression of how things are, as how things actually are. Especially those who try hard to come out as very bright.

Another thing is humorous in all this muscle talk and hunting down the opponents instead of actually trying to argue ideas or concepts, - everybody pointing fingers, saying "I told ya'". Right. No.

You did not. Nobody imagined DT actually winning. Clinton did not, at least not in a timely way. And the mess she left behind, with all the self-righteous big mouths that are not ashamed to use whatever pretext comes handy, is not helping anyone.

What is helping, is a role model. I would never imagine DT wanting to be one, for people on this board. He couldn't care less. He is far from wanting to be a role model who only destroys as opposed to create.

I actually think he is trying to be a role model for those, who would otherwise end up with nothing but void opportunities, called "entitlement" and "social injustice".

It looks like "no, nobody told ya'". So far. Voters were smarter than believing in the entitlement and social injustice. What is unfortunate - the same people feeding the "entitlement & social injustice" bs are very sore losers and again, opt for obstruction, instead of creating something, or inspiring others to create. I actually think, that this toxic MO and climate will take a while to get rid off.
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Excutive order re ban declared unconstitutional.

"A US district judge in Virginia has ruled that President Donald Trump's executive order barring entry from seven countries is unconstitutional.

Judge Leonie Brinkema issued a preliminary injunction, asserting that the campaign vow to institute a "Muslim ban" violated the First Amendment.

The Monday ruling is significant, as the judge ruled that religious bias is at the heart of Mr Trump's ban.

Another US judge has already upheld an order stopping implementation.

The First Amendment prohibits the government from establishing laws that favour one religion over another."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38972180

Rewriting a new executive order could be a bit difficult now. Can't cite religion and if he excludes specific nationalities he'll be seen as racist.

Maybe the next attempt will be an executive order annulling the First Amendment.
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Rewriting a new executive order could be a bit difficult now. Can't cite religion and if he excludes specific nationalities he'll be seen as racist.

Maybe the next attempt will be an executive order annulling the First Amendment.
He's not having a good day at all.
I'm wondering who else will be urged to resign now, because it feels like someone knew about Flynn and said nothing, and if that person was also part of the EO decision making, it would make sense to kill two birds with one stone.
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Apart from Phos, everyone else is just trolling Marton
And where is Phos?
I've been wondering for a while now. First s/he changed the avatar and then disappeared completely?
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Excutive order re ban declared unconstitutional.
Note that it is a temporary injunction though, so more challenges could come. From the article: "The temporary injunction applies only to residents of Virginia and faculties of state universities who may have been affected by the new travel restrictions."

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He's not having a good day at all.
I'm wondering who else will be urged to resign now...
I sincerely hope that Conway is asked to resign and am disappointed it's not happened yet. Her "free commercial" for Ivanka's clothing line is a very clear violation of ethics rules and should not be tolerated.
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In the US they call illegals " aliens ". Just how sick are they in US?
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She is high on drugs I think. Probably sniffing in the oval office.Or she is just inherently dumm!
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Note that it is a temporary injunction though, so more challenges could come. From the article: "The temporary injunction applies only to residents of Virginia and faculties of state universities who may have been affected by the new travel restrictions."



I sincerely hope that Conway is asked to resign and am disappointed it's not happened yet. Her "free commercial" for Ivanka's clothing line is a very clear violation of ethics rules and should not be tolerated.
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She is high on drugs I think. Probably sniffing in the oval office.Or she is just inherently dumm!
She's desperately brown-nosing Trump in the hope of getting a juicy position (political, I mean). No madder than her boss.

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She is high on drugs I think. Probably sniffing in the oval office.Or she is just inherently dumm!
She's not dumb. She's very smart at distraction, getting people incensed at trivial matters. She's not experienced and well versed in federal law, protocol and she might be a bit too fond/wound up at the sound of her own voice.

As for drugs, don't know. I've heard her mention a lack of sleep many times, and she might be suffering from sleep deprivation. She looks absolutely haggard sometimes.
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She's not dumb. She's very smart at distraction, getting people incensed at trivial matters. She's not experienced and well versed in federal law, protocol and she might be a bit too fond/wound up at the sound of her own voice.

As for drugs, don't know. I've heard her mention a lack of sleep many times, and she might be suffering from sleep deprivation. She looks absolutely haggard sometimes.
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maybe sex deprivation
Funny, do you guys ever say that about guys?!
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