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That press conference was gold. Trump never fails to entertain. Enjoy the ride folks, who knows when it's going to end



The caring Left, "We shouldn't stigmatise mental health... TRUMP'S A F**K ING MENTAL"
It is not just that. Loads of crime commited by certain part of migrating population is shrugged off as "logical coping reactions" or isolated mental instability that calls for certain decorum. Why all the hysterics over Trump's apparent ailments? Decorum just for some? Or let's stigmatise just those who ran out of patience with circular reasoning of freedom fighters..I am waiting for the sound of Aurora shooting on tzar's pallace like in the 1917. Same rage. Who has mental problems? Who publicly calls for destructions of the opponents? Who is so enraged, unable to actually negotiate, build together or create, compromize? Considering the smug journalists and the rain of smartass questions, I am quite impressed how DT is dealing with the scavenger hunt.
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It is not just that. Loads of crime commited by certain part of migrating population is shrugged off as "logical coping reactions" or isolated mental instability that calls for certain decorum. Why all the hysterics over Trump's apparent ailments? Decorum just for some? Or let's stigmatise just those who ran out of patience with circular reasoning of freedom fighters..I am waiting for the sound of Aurora shooting on tzar's pallace like in the 1917. Same rage. Who has mental problems? Who publicly calls for destructions of the opponents? Who is so enraged, unable to actually negotiate, build together or create, compromize? Considering the smug journalists and the rain of smartass questions, I am quite impressed how DT is dealing with the scavenger hunt.
I believe Mr. Trump should totally quit his frantic tweeting. He should also stop commenting / arguing / fighting every tv-report / newspaper message etc. etc. Did Obama do that?! (Serious question as I don't know and Obama did use the new media possibilities).
Trump should make the news - the media should report on it. Neither vice-versa nor in a circle as it is now. They are so busy bashing eachother - while the world wonders "okay, WHAT now?"
The way he and his circle handle the media does not speak for him. It's a frigging Kindergarten to us outsiders, really.
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Can the mods release the names of the 34 people who voted "yes" in this poll? I badly need to sell them one of my bridges.
Sure, here it is:
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It is not just that. Loads of crime commited by certain part of migrating population is shrugged off as "logical coping reactions" or isolated mental instability that calls for certain decorum. Why all the hysterics over Trump's apparent ailments? Decorum just for some? Or let's stigmatise just those who ran out of patience with circular reasoning of freedom fighters..I am waiting for the sound of Aurora shooting on tzar's pallace like in the 1917. Same rage. Who has mental problems? Who publicly calls for destructions of the opponents? Who is so enraged, unable to actually negotiate, build together or create, compromize? Considering the smug journalists and the rain of smartass questions, I am quite impressed how DT is dealing with the scavenger hunt.
But Trump should be aiming at somehow floating above the playground fighting and stay on the higher ground.
He has a good story to tell and should promote that. Whether he can actually succeed and deliver is a totally different story to be analysed at some future time.

Here and now we are in the honeymoon period ready to be beguiled by dreams of MAGA.
All this fake news stuff is just diverting from where he should be focusing?
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Considering the smug journalists and the rain of smartass questions, I am quite impressed how DT is dealing with the scavenger hunt.
The constant tweeting and piddling about over Minutae gives him the finesse of a petulant child, as does his conduct in press conferences. His failure to respond to a direct question is not media smarts, it's a lack of focus. And he is ill-prepared.

Just goes to show you though, that we can look at the same thing and have completely orthogonal interpretations.
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Why do people think it is him tweeting.
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Why do people think it is him tweeting.
Because he never issues denials
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Vice Admiral Robert Harward has rejected President Trump’s offer to be the new national security adviser, CBS News’ Major Garrett reports.

Sources close to the situation told Garrett Harward and the administration had a dispute over staffing the security council.

Two sources close to the situation confirm Harward demanded his own team, and the White House resisted.

Specifically, Mr. Trump told Deputy National Security Adviser K. T. McFarland that she could retain her post, even after the ouster of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. Harward refused to keep McFarland as his deputy, and after a day of negotiations over this and other staffing matters, Harward declined to serve as Flynn’s replacement.
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Same problem as at State Department, surprised Trump has the time for such micro management!
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Right. So he can have overzelous abnoxiously abrasive journalists hurling solely provocative questions in his face while he is expected to act in abnormally impassive way? Since when it is ok to have such obvious double standards? Why would he even want to deal with such completely ill mannered animal behavior? What is the excuse for being so self-righteous...what is his crime to justify this. The fact that this poor sucker won elections?
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What is the excuse for being so self-righteous...what is his crime to justify this. The fact that this poor sucker won elections?
90% of US media is owned and controlled by 5 huge corporations. Trump is a hindrance to their agenda, and a thorn in their side. What else would you expect them to do?
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Right. So he can have overzelous abnoxiously abrasive journalists hurling solely provocative questions in his face while he is expected to act in abnormally impassive way? Since when it is ok to have such obvious double standards? Why would he even want to deal with such completely ill mannered animal behavior? What is the excuse for being so self-righteous...what is his crime to justify this. The fact that this poor sucker won elections?
He applied for the job, nobody forced him.

He has a Press Secretary to do this for him.
You know the expression, if you do not like the heat then stay out of the kitchen.

Look at the questions Obama had in his last Press conference and the way that he responded to them with long informed answers, here.

Maybe if he stopped insulting the newspapers the journalists would less obnoxious?
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Right. So he can have overzelous abnoxiously abrasive journalists hurling solely provocative questions in his face while he is expected to act in abnormally impassive way? Since when it is ok to have such obvious double standards? Why would he even want to deal with such completely ill mannered animal behavior? What is the excuse for being so self-righteous...what is his crime to justify this. The fact that this poor sucker won elections?
Clearly you've not watched too many of these press conferences. You think presidents gone by had an easy jovial chummy type experience? No hard and probing questions? No journos trying to wheedle out bullshit and write the scoop?

Why should Trump be handled like a delicate and precious snowflake?
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Jon Sopel's, the BBC's North America correspondent's view of the conference:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38999993

Think his last sentences sum up Trump pretty well.

"He is angry at times, proud of what he's achieving, furious that he's not getting the recognition he feels he deserves, obsessed by the polls, obsessed by the size of his crowd.

And here's my one curious takeaway.

The media that he professes to hate and despise he seems to spend an awful lot of time watching.

You wonder, when does he find time to govern?"
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No appeal against the Trump ban decision!
The justice department filing yesterday argued that the ninth circuit should not reconsider its 9 February ruling against the travel ban but wait until the new order is released.

The filing contradicted Trump’s own statements at an extraordinary press conference on Thursday, when the president lambasted the ninth circuit, calling it “a bad court” that had made “a bad decision”, and stating: “We are appealing that and we are going further.”

Trump also twice cited a misleading statistic about the ninth circuit’s rate of having its rulings overturned, saying, “I’ve heard 80%. I find that hard to believe.

Such claims about the court are misleading, as fact-checking sites Snopes and Politifact have pointed out.
The supreme court only reviews about 0.1% of all appeals court decisions each year.
Of the cases that were taken up by the supreme court, the high court did reverse or vacate 80% of cases from the ninth circuit from 1999 to 2008.
But those reversals represent only a tiny fraction of the ninth circuit’s total decisions.

Or to put it another way; people only appeal to the Supreme Court when they believe they have a good chance of winning, which is a very tiny number!

Which begs the question "Did Trump know about the filing?"

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Because he is one?
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Good god, that was the first step of Trump's complete psychological breakdown, which lets face it we all knew was coming. Never has a president put on such an appalling show, and it is painfully obvious to see the difference between someone who has spent their lives being groomed for a political office, and someone who has fallen into it wholly unprepared for the mental rigors of politics. He has no idea how to act, he has no mentor or wise advisors, and it is only a matter of time before this human ticking time bomb explodes. The enemies of the West must be rubbing their hands with glee, waiting to see how it turns out. Either way, we can rest assured that it won't be pretty.

I'm not sure if he will last another 6 months.

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Right. So he can have overzelous abnoxiously abrasive journalists hurling solely provocative questions in his face while he is expected to act in abnormally impassive way? Since when it is ok to have such obvious double standards? Why would he even want to deal with such completely ill mannered animal behavior? What is the excuse for being so self-righteous...what is his crime to justify this. The fact that this poor sucker won elections?
You mean... is he expected to act like a dignified statesman, a leader, a president, and not have a mental breakdown live on TV?

Well, yes, MC, that is kind of what is expected. Like all presidents that came before him.
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Right. So he can have overzelous abnoxiously abrasive journalists hurling solely provocative questions in his face while he is expected to act in abnormally impassive way? Since when it is ok to have such obvious double standards? Why would he even want to deal with such completely ill mannered animal behavior? What is the excuse for being so self-righteous...what is his crime to justify this. The fact that this poor sucker won elections?
Which of the questions did you find provocative, ill-mannered or animal? Some of the journalists actually went out of their way to not be confrontational and only called him out on specific points. This is a bit rich coming from someone who in this very thread railed against protecting feelings and the new left. I thought he was bulldozer, not a poor sucker.
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Why do people think it is him tweeting.
It's been confirmed by multiple sources and never denied by anyone. No offense, but stuff like this really highlights how clueless you are about the situation and US politics in particular. Parroting a few alt-right podcasters and uninformed skepticism doesn't insight make.
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#fine tuned machine!

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I always thought such checks were done before, not after. So how much sensitive information were these people privy to?

You know there are more "juicy" stories coming out of this administration in a few weeks than other administrations score in years
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It was like a 77 minute cry for help. My impression is that he wanted to win because of his ego but now that he's won he has little or no interest in actually doing the job. He seems overwhelmed and it's pretty clear that others are pulling the strings whilst he does little or no meaningful governing. The guy is hopelessly out of his depth. The trouble is that he's not the kind of person who will get help here, instead he's more likely to lash out and take the whole thing down.

He seems to spend the day watching TV and reading the papers and getting wheeled out every now and then to sign documents like a more mobile Leonid Brezhnev.
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It is not just that. Loads of crime commited by certain part of migrating population is shrugged off as "logical coping reactions" or isolated mental instability that calls for certain decorum. Why all the hysterics over Trump's apparent ailments? Decorum just for some? Or let's stigmatise just those who ran out of patience with circular reasoning of freedom fighters..I am waiting for the sound of Aurora shooting on tzar's pallace like in the 1917. Same rage. Who has mental problems? Who publicly calls for destructions of the opponents? Who is so enraged, unable to actually negotiate, build together or create, compromize? Considering the smug journalists and the rain of smartass questions, I am quite impressed how DT is dealing with the scavenger hunt.
I've read that several times now and I still have no clue what you're trying to say. Do you write Trump's speeches?
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