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Old 17.02.2017, 12:34
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Being a cantankerous shit to the press occasionally is probably ok but being a cantankerous shit to everybody all of the time probably isn't the best idea if you want to achieve anything in politics, and make no mistake by running for POTUS you are applying to be a politician whether you like it or not.
And being diplomatic is an essential part of that.
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Old 17.02.2017, 12:40
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Sure, here it is:
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Fake news.
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Old 17.02.2017, 12:45
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The purpose of the press in a free, democratic society is to report the news and hold the powers that be to account. That's why we have investigative journalism.
This vision of free press is an illusion. Held to account? The 'powers that be' own the press..

It's like the vision of a free world with no borders under one government, free from war. It sounds great - Rainbows and unicorns, yay! But in reality, a corporate-run fascist dystopia.


"The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers... [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper." --Thomas Jefferson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

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Old 17.02.2017, 12:51
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Maybe not, but he could at least try to behave like the mature, successful businessman that he claims to be, rather than a spoilt, barely literate pre-pubescent teenager with the attention span of a gnat.
That is what I expected him to behave like, which would have been a good thing. But now I wonder how he ever managed to do profitable business?
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Your claim amounts to the following:
John says he's not a car driver. Then he gets in his car's driver seat and drives off. But still he's not a driver simply by virtue of him saying so.

Perhaps you get the absurdity of your claim now. Whatever he was before, upon the swearing in he became one.
That man Gorka is quite something! Watch him defend Trump's actions. Evan Davis nailed it though:

https://youtu.be/rFK3tbkNX-A
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Old 17.02.2017, 13:02
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

By all accounts he is used to 1) suing people and 2) being sued by people. I have read a couple of biographies of business people and they touched on dealings with Trump. He comes across as a bully rather than a ruthless businessman. People have to sue him to get what was originally agreed to in the contract. He seems to like arguing black is white.
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Old 17.02.2017, 13:15
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That is what I expected him to behave like, which would have been a good thing. But now I wonder how he ever managed to do profitable business?
Christ knows. Lord Alan Sugar, his obvious comparison, may also be a belligerent and foul-mouthed ****, but disregarding the increasingly silly Apprentice show, no-one can reasonably deny that he has a good business hat on him. And on occasion, he's even a likable guy.
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Old 17.02.2017, 13:46
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I must have missed the line where it says the President can't be a cantankerous shit to the press.
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There are no rules which state how the POTUS should or shouldn't act.
For starters, Article 2 of the constitution is literally about the office of President of the USA, and how that office should be performed.

I know there's a lot of dumbing down, dislike of facts, etc coming out of the Trump camp, but honestly, it would have taken you about 4 seconds of Googling to realise you were wrong.
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Old 17.02.2017, 13:49
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Looks like even some of the Fox News staff have had enough now...

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I must have missed the line where it says the President can't be a cantankerous shit to the press.

3rd paragraph from the bottom. Its there, i promise.
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Old 17.02.2017, 13:57
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Yeah, but that's not what you actually said, let me quote yourself to you:



For starters, Article 2 of the constitution is literally about the office of President of the USA, and how that office should be performed.

I know there's a lot of dumbing down, dislike of facts, etc coming out of the Trump camp, but honestly, it would have taken you about 4 seconds of Googling to realise you were wrong.
Are we talking about the same thing
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Are we talking about the same thing
Yes, bigly.
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Looks like even some of the Fox News staff have had enough now...
Wow... the guy deserves a medal for actually giving Fox News a glimmer of integrity. I would say it was actually very brave speaking out like he did, considering the flak he is likely going to get both inside and outside the network. He is clearly distressed about Trump's BS.
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Old 17.02.2017, 14:01
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

When the President thanks Rush Limbaugh on his personal twitter feed...I'm lost for words.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

In a way, Donald Trump could be a blessing for America.

As long as the Judicial branch stays strong, the most barmy of his policies will never actually see the light of day. But, his Stark Raving Loony (R) party will continue to do what they do best, and display their incompetence and inability to govern regularly.

It will be proof that, in a progressive western democracy, electing a right wing demagogue is a recipe for disaster.

Ironically, the election of Donald Trump prevented the Stark Raving Loony party from fielding a more able candidate, which in turn would have made their policies seem more acceptable. Id be far more concerned if Jeb had won, for example, since i think he could well have finished his 4 year term, and possibly got a second term too. I dont have the same concerns with old Trumpy.

When he fails (when, not if), it will be Yuge. It will be MAGA-Yuge. And i'll be watching with my mouth stuffed full of popcorn.

Considering his tomfoolery (should that be Trumpfoolery?) could well destroy any credibility for the GOP, and make them unelectable for most people, i reiterate...Donald Trump could well be the greatest thing to happen to the Democratic Party in decades.
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When the President thanks Rush Limbaugh on his personal twitter feed...I'm lost for words.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...55987299082242
Why are you lost for words? We know he is delusional, so this is no surprise at all.
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Old 17.02.2017, 14:35
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Looks like even some of the Fox News staff have had enough now...
And Phos too
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... I would say it was actually very brave speaking out like he did, considering the flak he is likely going to get both inside and outside the network. He is clearly distressed about Trump's BS.
As you would expect, there are plenty of reports of Trump supporters calling for his sacking.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...rump/98023272/
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Why are you lost for words? We know he is delusional, so this is no surprise at all.
Because I hadn't heard of Limbaugh until I worked on an American site back in 2003 onwards, and it took me a good while to realise Rush and Limbaugh were one and the same person. So I did my research about the guy, listened to some of his shows online...Gees! He's vile! It leaves me lost for words that of all the media outlets in the World, the POTUS chooses to thank a political 'shock jock'. Why not Reuters, or someone credible? If Limbaugh isn't one step away from white supremacist groups, then I don't know who is.

Last night, I forced myself to watch the press conference to see what issues he raised and the questions he would successfully challenge. I really wanted to see the glimmer of him evolving into the role, and despite all the fluster, there were one or two glimmers...then he thanks Limbaugh and it's back to square 1.
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And Phos too
Trump's levels of delusion are much higher than Phos's. He has been out-deluded.
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As you would expect, there are plenty of reports of Trump supporters calling for his sacking.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...rump/98023272/
Because I hadn't heard of Limbaugh until I worked on an American site back in 2003 onwards, and it took me a good while to realise Rush and Limbaugh were one and the same person. So I did my research about the guy, listened to some of his shows online...Gees! He's vile! It leaves me lost for words that of all the media outlets in the World, the POTUS chooses to thank a political 'shock jock'. Why not Reuters, or someone credible? If Limbaugh isn't one step away from white supremacist groups, then I don't know who is.

Last night, I forced myself to watch the press conference to see what issues he raised and the questions he would successfully challenge. I really wanted to see the glimmer of him evolving into the role, and despite all the fluster, there were one or two glimmers...then he thanks Limbaugh and it's back to square 1.
That ship sailed a long time ago, and is now nothing more than a speck on the horizon that we can only have fond memories and nostalgia of.
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