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Old 19.02.2017, 19:05
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Fake news is about gossips, rumours and innuendos, and the outrage and miscontrued reaction to purported facts. And then supposed statements, analysis and opinions by someone purported to be important. All in all, useless stuff to fuel fear and outrage.

It does not seem to be working, apart from providing the opposition an echo chamber to hear themselves. Trump supporters don't pay much attention to them, and polls shows impartial swing voters tend to believe Trump more than mainstream news media.

True to form, the left, which rails about Trump's divisiveness, is doing a great job at dividing and polarizing the country. They've started to attack their own, and some will drift out the further extremes of the left.

People are tired of the bullshit. I presume we will shortly start to see an effort to hold conversations that draw towards the middle amongst real adults. The more responsible adults should and will start building dialogs to bridge the gap and start unifying sensible people.

As for Trump, it looks like he'll be winning and winning until he gets tired of winning.

The republicans pandering to creationists is basically why we're at this stage where some incompetent buffoon is head of the states. You simply no longer have any ability to gauge truth when you can't accept news sources that don't say the earth is 6000 years old and dinasaurs and humans lived together. There is no reliable news source that can claim to deliver news if it also has to assume all the animals in the world got together 2by 2 and walked to a boat in the middle east and then walked all the way back again.

When people use the term "special little snowflake", I can't help but think of you, there is nothing more special than pandering to adults who hold those sort of beliefs.

When you use google, how many pages do you have to go before you find news that suits you?
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Old 19.02.2017, 19:06
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The left can continue to focus on all kinds of Trump's flaws, and he has some beauties. But that is not really what matters. Meanwhile, court appointments, legislations, policies, regulations and executive orders are really the actual payload. On these, there really isn't much opposition, as the opposition is helpless on these. They don't even know where they stand without further splitting themselves up. Until then, they're just a loose bunch of whining ninnies without anything better to offer. Hence, Trump will continue to win short of sabotaging himself.
Clearly you're heavily restricting your range of news sources, then.
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Old 19.02.2017, 19:11
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When you use google, how many pages do you have to go before you find news that suits you?
I'm not looking for anything to suit me, rather to get some idea of what is happening with the situation. I typically do not take stories at face value, and rather read between the lines. Now if you were to look at the stories going around, you'll find that the vast majority of them are people's opinions, agendas, feelings, sentimental analysis, fears and prognosis. In other words, the vast majority of content out there is subjective. The trick is looking for the objective reality buried within them. By the time you find any, what you'll find is the vast majority of it is fake or trash.
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The left can continue to focus on all kinds of Trump's flaws, and he has some beauties. But that is not really what matters. Meanwhile, court appointments, legislations, policies, regulations and executive orders are really the actual payload. On these, there really isn't much opposition, as the opposition is helpless on these. They don't even know where they stand without further splitting themselves up. Until then, they're just a loose bunch of whining ninnies without anything better to offer. Hence, Trump will continue to win short of sabotaging himself.
Did he really believe he would run the USA all by himself? Hmm.
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Old 19.02.2017, 19:48
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Did he really believe he would run the USA all by himself? Hmm.
The US Presidency is not a dictatorship. Talk of Trump being fascist dictator is a ridiculous far-fetched fantasy. The structure of the US government and the constitution doesn't allow for it. The functional power of the presidency is more like the rudder of a ship, it points towards a direction, and the rest of the machine drives it there.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Fake news and alternative facts ...

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/17/515630...ative-language
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The structure of the US government and the constitution doesn't allow for it.
Yeah, I'm counting on that.
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Old 19.02.2017, 20:23
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

48 Democratic senators vs 52 Republican senators are running the Senate. Guess who they're going to support.
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Old 19.02.2017, 20:24
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He invented a terror attack in Sweden yesterday and Swedes are tweeting they are fed up of worried friends and family contacting them to check they're ok.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7588021.html
Hmmm... quite a lot of Swedish society are wondering about their own governments fake news..

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...ed-hate-speech

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“Suspected perpetrators; Ali Mohammed, Mahmod, Mohammed, Mohammed Ali, again, again, again. Christopher… what, is it true? Yes, a Swedish name snuck in on the edges of a drug crime. Mohammed, Mahmod Ali, again and again."

“Countries representing all the crimes this week: Iraq, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Somalia, Syria again, Somalia, unknown, unknown country, Sweden. Half of the suspects, we can’t be sure because they don’t have any valid papers. Which in itself usually means that they’re lying about their nationality and identity.
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National Police Commissioner Dan Eliasson said that it was important to distinguish what an officer does in the line of duty and outside of it.

“When he acts in his professional capacity, he should be extremely careful with issues of ethnicity. If he wants to talk about the problems of crime among immigrants in his spare time, he has freedom of expression like any other,” he told P4 Extra radio, adding that he knows Springare as a “very good person.”
Could it be that a Yank president cares more about Swedish people than the Swedish government ???
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Old 19.02.2017, 20:46
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He invented a terror attack in Sweden yesterday and Swedes are tweeting they are fed up of worried friends and family contacting them to check they're ok.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7588021.html
Not that I want to be defending the schmuck, but listen closely to what he actually says. At no point dies he actually say there was a terror attack in Sweden yesterday.

What he says may be disconnected, or even a gross misrepresentation of the state of affairs in Sweden, but he isn't telling any lies. He is just spouting the kind of rubbish as he has from the beginning (which is not all that different from a great many politicians).

So when the press, be they domestic or foreign, try to take him up on not telling the truth his response is quite simple: "Where did I claim there was a terrorist attack in Sweden?"

He's playing oneupsmanship. He's pretty good at it.
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Old 19.02.2017, 20:51
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Not staying long. I can set a bot to post a month from now that "Trump won again ".

Same 'ol. I'm sure there will be a dozen more hearsays, rumours, innuendos and feigned outrage between now and then, and Trump will still be President. Notice it yet?
I am sure your bot will make considerably more authentic posts than yours
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Old 19.02.2017, 20:58
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Not that I want to be defending the schmuck, but listen closely to what he actually says. At no point dies he actually say there was a terror attack in Sweden yesterday.
He says "look what happened in Sweden yesterday".

So, maybe he can explain to me what did happen, because nothing happened.
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Old 19.02.2017, 20:58
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Not that I want to be defending the schmuck, but listen closely to what he actually says. At no point dies he actually say there was a terror attack in Sweden yesterday.

What he says may be disconnected, or even a gross misrepresentation of the state of affairs in Sweden, but he isn't telling any lies. He is just spouting the kind of rubbish as he has from the beginning (which is not all that different from a great many politicians).

So when the press, be they domestic or foreign, try to take him up on not telling the truth his response is quite simple: "Where did I claim there was a terrorist attack in Sweden?"

He's playing oneupsmanship. He's pretty good at it.
I think his audience understood what Trump was talking about. In the case of Sweden, the soaring rape and crime rates associated with migrants. There was ungoing riots in Paris the night before, that is blacked out in the media. It seemed like he was referring to the whole of Europe, as we in the US have a tendency to do sometimes.

He talks loosely and off the cuff. The people he was talking to understood what he meant. The people in Sweden, on the other hand, likely steered away from their own cover-ups and denials about their situation.
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Old 19.02.2017, 20:59
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I am sure your bot will make considerably more authentic posts than yours
I'm sure you and Sandgrounder would respond to my bot posts as well.
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He says "look what happened in Sweden yesterday".

So, maybe he can explain to me what did happen, because nothing happened.
Perhaps he would. I think you would need a twitter account to be able to ask him.

It's just verbal chaff.

Nothing happened in Sweden yesterday? I'm sure something happened.
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Old 19.02.2017, 21:05
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Not that I want to be defending the schmuck, but listen closely to what he actually says. At no point dies he actually say there was a terror attack in Sweden yesterday.

What he says may be disconnected, or even a gross misrepresentation of the state of affairs in Sweden, but he isn't telling any lies. He is just spouting the kind of rubbish as he has from the beginning (which is not all that different from a great many politicians).

So when the press, be they domestic or foreign, try to take him up on not telling the truth his response is quite simple: "Where did I claim there was a terrorist attack in Sweden?"

He's playing oneupsmanship. He's pretty good at it.
He said ""We've got to keep our country safe," he said. "You look at what's happening in Germany. You look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this? Sweden."

So what did happen last night in Sweden according to Trump?
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so what did happen last night in sweden according to trump?
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I think his audience understood what Trump was talking about. In the case of Sweden, the soaring rape and crime rates associated with migrants. There was ungoing riots in Paris the night before, that is blacked out in the media. It seemed like he was referring to the whole of Europe, as we in the US have a tendency to do sometimes.

He talks loosely and off the cuff. The people he was talking to understood what he meant. The people in Sweden, on the other hand, likely steered away from their own cover-ups and denials about their situation.
"I think his audience understood what Trump was talking about." Likely so, this is a good example of the US decline.
This is the antithesis of “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” Aristotle
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Nothing happened in Sweden yesterday? I'm sure something happened.
No, nothing ever happens in Sweden.

Hell, I've never even gotten a speeding ticket there!

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I think his audience understood what Trump was talking about. In the case of Sweden, the soaring rape and crime rates associated with migrants. There was ungoing riots in Paris the night before, that is blacked out in the media. It seemed like he was referring to the whole of Europe, as we in the US have a tendency to do sometimes.

He talks loosely and off the cuff. The people he was talking to understood what he meant. The people in Sweden, on the other hand, likely steered away from their own cover-ups and denials about their situation.
"There was ungoing riots in Paris the night before, that is blacked out in the media. " So how did you get to hear about them? Telepathy?
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