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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Any news that cannot be verified as being true is fake news. It's that simple.
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"Donald Trump is mentally sane and fit for his tasks as POTUS #45."

Good luck in verifying this as being true. It should be really simple, no ?

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"Angela Merkel is mentally sane and fit for her tasks to have another run as Chancellor"

See what I did there?
Yes, I do see what you did there: You ducked the issue because you are incapable of living up to your own words when called out on it. Just like POTUS #45.
Do you plan to run for #46 ?
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I don't support Trump, but I will call out irrational accusations when I see them.
With words or photos from 2010 and rape scenes? Aren't you being a tad sensationalist?
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Old 20.02.2017, 18:26
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Old 20.02.2017, 20:52
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No comment!
And rightly so.

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I think his audience understood what Trump was talking about. In the case of Sweden, the soaring rape and crime rates associated with migrants. There was ungoing riots in Paris the night before, that is blacked out in the media. It seemed like he was referring to the whole of Europe, as we in the US have a tendency to do sometimes.

He talks loosely and off the cuff. The people he was talking to understood what he meant. The people in Sweden, on the other hand, likely steered away from their own cover-ups and denials about their situation.
"In the case of Sweden, the soaring rape and crime rates associated with migrants" Soaring, Sigh!
In Sweden, the rape rates in 2015 and 2016 were lower than in 2014; you really should take a few minutes to check your "facts"
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And I seriously hope you didn't try to post a link to a rape here.
A link to a picture from a news story in a national newspaper about a real rape that happened is more offensive than the rape itself. People like you are half the problem.

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With words or photos from 2010 and rape scenes? Aren't you being a tad sensationalist?
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"In the case of Sweden, the soaring rape and crime rates associated with migrants" Soaring, Sigh!
In Sweden, the rape rates in 2015 and 2016 were lower than in 2014; you really should take a few minutes to check your "facts"
Educate thyselves:

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Old 20.02.2017, 22:02
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Yes, I do see what you did there: You ducked the issue because you are incapable of living up to your own words when called out on it. Just like POTUS #45.
Do you plan to run for #46 ?
We live in the Western hemisphere where there are laws that dictate certain criteria have to be met if you wish to have someone sectioned.

Or should we have Donald Trump undergo a mental health assessment because xkcd believes is not sane?
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Old 20.02.2017, 22:32
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We live in the Western hemisphere where there are laws that dictate certain criteria have to be met if you wish to have someone sectioned.

Or should we have Donald Trump undergo a mental health assessment because xkcd believes is not sane?
"We" in Switzerland are in the Eastern Hemisphere. The US is in the Western.

Sectioned is a very British term, again Eastern Hemisphere.....at least east of Greenwich.


Who are you referring to?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

In the USA, rape = penetration. In Sweden 'pussy grabbing' especially by a person in a position of power, like employer or teacher = rape! With those criteria, the rape rate in the USA would be soaring, and Trump commited as a rapist!

As for terrorist attacks in Sweden- there was one last year- but I'm pretty sure Trump was not intereseted in that one:

It turns out Donald Trump was right. There was a recent under-reported terrorist attack in Sweden. Just not the kind Trump was referencing the other day.
Terror in Sweden

Last month, neo-Nazis bombed a refugee centre in Gothenburg.

The attack came before Trump appeared to cite a non-existent Islamist terror attack in Sweden at a campaign-style rally on 18 February. Attempting to justify his xenophobic policies, the President said in Florida:

Sweden. Who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They’re having problems like they never thought possible.

Police arrested three suspects for the home-made bomb attack on a centre for asylum seekers, which happened on 5 January.

All three suspects “are or were in the past members of the Nordic Resistance Movement (NMR)”, said Mats Ljungqvist of the anti-terror prosecutor’s office. The attack left an immigration officer with serious injuries to his legs.

NMR is a neo-Nazi group that exists in Sweden, Norway, Finland and Denmark. Emboldened by Trump’s victory, NMR staged its biggest ever march in Sweden in the wake of his election.

The Swedish secret service, Säpo, is treating the attack as politically motivated. Ljungqvist said that the attack appears to be related to two other attempted bombings in Gothenburg in recent months. A bomb went off at a “well-known far-left haunt” on 8 November. And on 25 January, a bomb was found at a place that temporarily houses immigrants.
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Old 20.02.2017, 22:44
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A link to a picture from a news story in a national newspaper about a real rape that happened is more offensive than the rape itself. People like you are half the problem.

Educate thyselves:
So you find a video by a Bosnian refugee more educational than official Swedish Govt. statistics! Sorry but I do not.
To quote another EFer "You really have a severely warped sense of reality at times."

BTW, since Trump was elected violent crime increased ten times in the US; but you will have to wait for me to quote the source - I did not have time to film the video yet

Now for some real numbers!
According to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå),the number of rapes reported in Sweden in 2016 was 6,560.
When that number is compared to 2014, where the number of reported rapes was 6,700, then a slight decrease can actually be seen.

10,500 incidents of sexual molestation were reported in the country in 2016 compare to 2014, when 9,640 incidents were reported.

In 2015 when 163,000 migrants entered the country; both the number of rapes and sexual offence decreased vs the previous year.
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Old 20.02.2017, 22:50
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So you find a video by a Bosnian refugee more educational than official Swedish Govt. statistics! Sorry but I do not.
To quote another EFer "You really have a severely warped sense of reality at times."

BTW, since Trump was elected violent crime increased ten times in the US; but you will have to wait for me to quote the source - I did not have time to film the video yet

Now for some real numbers!
According to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå),the number of rapes reported in Sweden in 2016 was 6,560.
When that number is compared to 2014, where the number of reported rapes was 6,700, then a slight decrease can actually be seen.

10,500 incidents of sexual molestation were reported in the country in 2016 compare to 2014, when 9,640 incidents were reported.

In 2015 when 163,000 migrants entered the country; both the number of rapes and sexual offence decreased vs the previous year.
Except that Bosnian refugee lives in Sweden and is known for thoroughly researching his facts - something that you certainly are not known for :

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So you find a video by a Bosnian refugee more educational than official Swedish Govt. statistics! Sorry but I do not.
To quote another EFer "You really have a severely warped sense of reality at times."

BTW, since Trump was elected violent crime increased ten times in the US; but you will have to wait for me to quote the source - I did not have time to film the video yet

Now for some real numbers!
According to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå),the number of rapes reported in Sweden in 2016 was 6,560.
When that number is compared to 2014, where the number of reported rapes was 6,700, then a slight decrease can actually be seen.

10,500 incidents of sexual molestation were reported in the country in 2016 compare to 2014, when 9,640 incidents were reported.

In 2015 when 163,000 migrants entered the country; both the number of rapes and sexual offence decreased vs the previous year.
Marton, educate thyself. All facts hyperlinked.

No, Fox News & Trump aren’t lying about Sweden

I'll lol once more when the Sweden Democrats win next year. Again, just for you:

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We live in the Western hemisphere where there are laws that dictate certain criteria have to be met if you wish to have someone sectioned.
Or should we have Donald Trump undergo a mental health assessment because xkcd believes is not sane?
Sigh. Short-term memory ? Or trying to duck the issue again ? I invited you to prove your own statement from page #236.
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Any news that cannot be verified as being true is fake news. It's that simple.
You failed to do that. It´s that simple.
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Old 20.02.2017, 23:15
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Sigh. Short-term memory ? Or trying to duck the issue again. I invited you to prove your own statement from page #236.

You failed to do that. It´s that simple.
Why should I prove it? Where is the news that Donald Trump isn't mentally sane to govern?
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Old 20.02.2017, 23:21
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So you find a video by a Bosnian refugee more educational than official Swedish Govt. statistics! Sorry but I do not.
To quote another EFer "You really have a severely warped sense of reality at times."

BTW, since Trump was elected violent crime increased ten times in the US; but you will have to wait for me to quote the source - I did not have time to film the video yet

Now for some real numbers!
According to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå),the number of rapes reported in Sweden in 2016 was 6,560.
When that number is compared to 2014, where the number of reported rapes was 6,700, then a slight decrease can actually be seen.

10,500 incidents of sexual molestation were reported in the country in 2016 compare to 2014, when 9,640 incidents were reported.

In 2015 when 163,000 migrants entered the country; both the number of rapes and sexual offence decreased vs the previous year.
Former US ambassador, Azita Raji, to Sweden disputes Trump's claims of refugee threat!
"I think that when we talk about these immigration patterns we need to use the facts that are available. There's absolutely no data to support that," Raji said of the Trump administration claims.

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Erm, by the fact he never mentioned "terror" or "attack" or "Sweden" in the same sentence.
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The title of this sub-forum is "Off-Topic". Please stop spamming to hide your ignorance.
Spamming, I never mentioned spam?
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Ayn Rand quote
Ah, citing good old Ayn Rand...

...who, as some claim, over-stayed her tourist visa (later went on to become a US citizen), and had no problem collecting social security and other government benefits after preaching all her life about laissez-faire.

I researched her a lot. Read all her work. Got massively turned off by the disconnect between her talking the talk and not walking the walk whenever it suited her.

Carry on...
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

What else is going on? #45 is a master of distraction. So while everyone is loosing it over Sweden, what sorts of nefarious deeds are going on in the US. It's easy to be distracted by all the flying sh*t.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Meantime, a message from Sweden:

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemoc...5781209848262/
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What else is going on? #45 is a master of distraction. So while everyone is loosing it over Sweden, what sorts of nefarious deeds are going on in the US. It's easy to be distracted by all the flying sh*t.
What else
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A British Muslim schoolteacher travelling to New York last week as a member of a school party from south Wales was denied entry to the United States.

Juhel Miah and a group of children and other teachers were about to take off from Iceland on 16 February on their way to the US when he was removed from the plane at Reykjavik.

The maths teacher, who had valid visa documentation, is a British citizen and does not have dual nationality, was escorted from the aircraft by security personnel.

The school had to find him a flight back from Reykjavik.

Neath Port Talbot council pointed out that UK government advice states: “We have confirmed with the US government that British passport holders regardless of country of birth or whether they hold another passport/nationality) aren’t affected by the executive order.”
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Remember the Trump press conference where he said "The rollout of that travel ban order was “very smooth” and “perfect”"

No wonder people are cancelling US trips!
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