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It's quite amusing how some of you bozos seem to have a grip on what's going on. Furthermore, I wonder how many of you are actually Americans or have "lived" in the U.S for a considerable amount of time in order for the U.S. presidency to affect you in any way shape or form. Typical Euro-trash nonsense IMO. Some of you are quick to criticize and belittle anything but won't bother with the bullshit which is going on in your own backyards.
All you have to do is look at the Brexit thread to see that what you are saying, is as usual, complete nonsense. It is full of empassioned posts.

You don't have to be American or to live in the US to have an interest in US politics, or to be horrified at the utter car crash that is now running your government. People already ridiculed Americans worldwide in the Bush era thanks to his witless but largely harmless ways, but by the time Trump is finished you guys are going to be a laughing stock worldwide, and there is very little harmless about him.

Anyway, considering most Americans are too dense to realise what is going on in their back yard, never mind outside of the country, it's a good job you have us Eurotrash types to point it out to you, eh?
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Your blinkered defense of Trump is nothing short of astounding... I do have to wonder whether you are genuinely so delusional, or whether you are simply playing devil's advocate to such extreme lengths just for a bit of forum attention whoring.
I don't categorically defend Trump. Look back over the thread. I critisised his travel ban and the needless aggrandisement of his inauguration crowd.

I will however defend misrepresentation of what he's said and disagree with speculation over his mental health.

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Straightforward troll, same as Phos.

I am still concerned that there's many on here that don't realise this.
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It's quite amusing how some of you bozos seem to have a grip on what's going on. Furthermore, I wonder how many of you are actually Americans or have "lived" in the U.S for a considerable amount of time in order for the U.S. presidency to affect you in any way shape or form. Typical Euro-trash nonsense IMO. Some of you are quick to criticize and belittle anything but won't bother with the bullshit which is going on in your own backyards.
Says he as he criticizes and belittles. FYI I'm politically active in my local Swiss community and spent a large part of my life living in the US and still in touch with people there. (Not to mention keeping up on Russian politics as my family's from there.) Trump is a threat to the world and I'm glad that people who shouldn't care, or aren't that affected, still do. For some like you, it's gonna take Trump outlawing KFC to give a shit, but that's fine, here's the door. I thought this was, you know, a discussion forum and mods were supposed to encourage things like discussion.
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Old 21.02.2017, 10:35
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All you have to do is look at the Brexit thread to see that what you are saying, is as usual, complete nonsense. It is full of empassioned posts.

You don't have to be American or to live in the US to have an interest in US politics, or to be horrified at the utter car crash that is now running your government. People already ridiculed Americans worldwide in the Bush era thanks to his witless but largely harmless ways, but by the time Trump is finished you guys are going to be a laughing stock worldwide, and there is very little harmless about him.

Anyway, considering most Americans are too dense to realise what is going on in their back yard, never mind outside of the country, it's a good job you have us Eurotrash types to point it out to you, eh?
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Marton, educate thyself. All facts hyperlinked.

No, Fox News & Trump aren’t lying about Sweden

I'll lol once more when the Sweden Democrats win next year. Again, just for you:
What a rubbish link!

I quote "In 2015 there were 5 290 reported rapes, a 12 percent decrease compared to 2014.

The next sentence "They [sex crimes] decreased a little in 2014, only to rise again in 2015" Two contrary statements!

No they did not; they decreased in 2015 when the surge of immigrants arrived.
Go and look at "Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå)" for the real numbers link in English!.

It states "sex crimes have doubled since 2012." This is simply untrue, look at the link above. In 2012 there were 16,923 offences and in 2015 18,057.

Why they show graphs labelled in Swedish when English is available, is I assume to disguise their lies!

The quote "When it comes to lethal violence it has increased with 29% since 2014." this is more dramatic than saying in 2014 there were 87 cases and 112 in 2015; which is the same number as in 2007!
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Old 21.02.2017, 10:38
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Sensationalist BS. We have no idea why the guy was denied entry. Just because he is Muslim doesn't mean that's the reason. It has nothing to do with Trump's ban - he's a Brit.

“No satisfactory reason has been provided for refusing entry to the United States – either at the airport in Iceland or subsequently at the US embassy in Reykjavik. Mr Miah attempted to visit the embassy but was denied access to the building...”

No reason, or no reason that they were satisfied with?

If I attempt to visit a US embassy i'm denied access also - and i'm an American.
Please explain why this is "Sensationalist BS"?

The article states a British citizen with a valid visa was removed from a flight to the US contrary to Home Office advice.
Are you disputing this statement?
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Says he as he criticizes and belittles. FYI I'm politically active in my local Swiss community and spent a large part of my life living in the US and still in touch with people there. (Not to mention keeping up on Russian politics as my family's from there.) Trump is a threat to the world and I'm glad that people who shouldn't care, or aren't that affected, still do. For some like you, it's gonna take Trump outlawing KFC to give a shit, but that's fine, here's the door. I thought this was, you know, a discussion forum and mods were supposed to encourage things like discussion.
How is Trump a threat to the world? He's barely in office and the fact that you're "involved" in your local politics doesn't mean a damn thing here. I was involved in a rather large bathroom break earlier....it holds about the same value. Again, I encourage discussion but the fact that most of you who have not a shred of thing in common with the U.S. choose to spew out nonsense in order to stave off your ennui becomes rather redundant. It's just like Blick this morning who had some idiot analyze Trumps handwriting....just like any other major media outlet had his handwriting analyzed. It's redundant and insipid.
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Old 21.02.2017, 10:45
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I don't categorically defend Trump. Look back over the thread. I critisised his travel ban and the needless aggrandisement of his inauguration crowd.

I will however defend misrepresentation of what he's said and disagree with speculation over his mental health.

"Anyone that doesn't agree with me is a troll!"
"disagree with speculation over his mental health." and your qualifications for this are?
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What a rubbish link!
Left is right, up is down, and the Sweden Democrats aren't gaining in the polls.
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Very interesting in this context
That research isn't really new, BTW. I've heard about this previously. Possibly years ago. I don't remember ;-)
But oh-so conveniently, it gets pulled up again and presented as new at just the right occasion ;-)

Reagan still finished his 2nd term, though he would write his famous (and heart-wrenching) "My fellow Americans"-letter only a few years later.

The same Ronald Reagan that called the USSR the "Evil Empire" (quoting popular cinema-lyrics) and vowed to bring it down was able to negotiate a huge strategic nuclear arms reduction deal with that very same "Evil Empire".

The end for Trump, of course, would be not so pretty (but when is it, anyway?).

And certainly, it could all end in tears.
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How is Trump a threat to the world? He's barely in office and the fact that you're "involved" in your local politics doesn't mean a damn thing here. I was involved in a rather large bathroom break earlier....it holds about the same value. Again, I encourage discussion but the fact that most of you who have not a shred of thing in common with the U.S. choose to spew out nonsense in order to stave off your ennui becomes rather redundant. It's just like Blick this morning who had some idiot analyze Trumps handwriting....just like any other major media outlet had his handwriting analyzed. It's redundant and insipid.
I am sorry that you do not like us pointing out the continuous stream of lies issuing from your hero!

Why I would need something in common with the US in order to recognise a blatant lie is something that requires a proper explanation from you rather than just your usual stream of impolite language?
Some lies;
  • It did not rain during my inauguration speech
  • My crowd was larger than Obama's
  • Something happened in Sweden last night
  • Fake News media (enemy of the people!)
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Old 21.02.2017, 11:01
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How is Trump a threat to the world? He's barely in office and the fact that you're "involved" in your local politics doesn't mean a damn thing here. I was involved in a rather large bathroom break earlier....it holds about the same value. Again, I encourage discussion but the fact that most of you who have not a shred of thing in common with the U.S. choose to spew out nonsense in order to stave off your ennui becomes rather redundant. It's just like Blick this morning who had some idiot analyze Trumps handwriting....just like any other major media outlet had his handwriting analyzed. It's redundant and insipid.
But for you to quote something which hasn't actually been included in the thread (never mind your big poo, in which you confess to being involved in earlier ) in order somehow to make a point that non-Americans not living in the US shouldn't dare to hold an opinion about the POTUS or, as he is also commonly known, the leader of the free world, is pretty pointless.

Of course everyone has an opinion and of course a percentage his actions will have either direct or indirect effects around the globe.

It started already with people attempting to legitimately travel to the US from any of the banned countries (whether or not they were banned) having their plans / work / studies / families messed about at best or turned on their head at worst.

If he was restricted to only making decisions which directly affect Americans then, fine, he can knock himself out but when he starts appointing people who deny there is any kind of climate change going on (not to mention his own "scientific" analysis of the environment), that's worthy of discussion on a more global level.
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Oh I'm sorry, go efff yourself internationally then.
While you go efff yourself with some racist SVP voter who needs to watch some Trump or May racist speech in order to get started down there.
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How is Trump a threat to the world? He's barely in office and the fact that you're "involved" in your local politics doesn't mean a damn thing here. I was involved in a rather large bathroom break earlier....it hold about the same value. Again, I encourage discussion but the fact that most of you who have not a shred of thing in common with the U.S. choose to spew out nonsense in order to stave off your ennui becomes rather redundant. It's just like Blick this morning who had some idiot analyze Trumps handwriting....just like any other major media outlet had his handwriting analyzed. It's redundant and insipid.
Redundant inspid nonsense. Right. And here I was thinking that arguments from people on our side tended to be researched and were ones in this thread to try to be fact based, avoiding xenophobia or empty "it's all a laff!" or "MAGA!" or "libtard" sentiments. All that stuff was fine (coming from non-Americans and people having nothing in common with the US, too). Speaking of inspid, this definitely qualifies. Why the hell do I bother. My last post on this forum, off to reddit for good.
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All you have to do is look at the Brexit thread to see that what you are saying, is as usual, complete nonsense. It is full of empassioned posts.

You don't have to be American or to live in the US to have an interest in US politics, or to be horrified at the utter car crash that is now running your government. People already ridiculed Americans worldwide in the Bush era thanks to his witless but largely harmless ways, but by the time Trump is finished you guys are going to be a laughing stock worldwide, and there is very little harmless about him.

Anyway, considering most Americans are too dense to realise what is going on in their back yard, never mind outside of the country, it's a good job you have us Eurotrash types to point it out to you, eh?
Most Americans are stupid enough to consider George Bush Jr a good president.
IMHO Trump is not nearly as bad as him. He is ridiculous but not as dangerous.
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How is Trump a threat to the world? He's barely in office
He is charge of the worlds most powerful country, and he is a lunatic? It's not rocket science.

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Again, I encourage discussion
Ahh, LIB encourages discussion... that is so... nice of you, magnanimous even. We are happy to be allowed the freedom to discuss this topic at your say-so.

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but the fact that most of you who have not a shred of thing in common with the U.S. choose to spew out nonsense in order to stave off your ennui becomes rather redundant. It's just like Blick this morning who had some idiot analyze Trumps handwriting....just like any other major media outlet had his handwriting analyzed. It's redundant and insipid.
So lets get this straight... the UK has not a "shred" of stuff in common with the US? Europe doesn't have a "shred" of stuff in common with the US, despite us all supposedly having shared values and knowing Americans and travelling to the US frequently for business and pleasure?

The sheer level of vitriol that spews forth from your beleagured keyboard can be quite extraordinary.

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Most Americans are stupid enough to consider George Bush Jr a good president.
IMHO Trump is not nearly as bad as him. He is ridiculous but not as dangerous.
You're kidding, right? Bush did whatever he was told, he was as meek as a mouse, a figurehead, a puppet, reading (badly) from scripts. Trump is calling the shots, he is freestyling it, and he is trying to do everything in his power to get his way. He is a loose cannon.
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I love this thread!

There are people genuinely suggesting that Sweden made up its crime statistics on the off chance that some twerp with bad hair might mention them in a speech.

The next four years are going to be the golden age of political satire :-)
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It's quite amusing how some of you bozos seem to have a grip on what's going on. Furthermore, I wonder how many of you are actually Americans or have "lived" in the U.S for a considerable amount of time in order for the U.S. presidency to affect you in any way shape or form. Typical Euro-trash nonsense IMO. Some of you are quick to criticize and belittle anything but won't bother with the bullshit which is going on in your own backyards.
Well, unfortunately it DOES affect us here ... look at the past years (not under Trump) how Switzerland has been affected which went so far, that several of my dual citizen friends (and they have one American parent, so the really are dual citizen) gave up their US passport because it simply got too much.

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My bigger concern is why do people care so much about the bigger picture now? Why don't they focus a little more on their own (easily solvable) problems and the (solvable) problems of their local community?
I wish they were. Discussing all this BS details about Trump is not the bigger picture - and while the rape-situation in Sweden I'm sure is tragic there is no reason to drag it out .... and out ..... and out on this thread.

As to focus on the local community problems, I strongly feel that some people who babble on here without taking a breath every now and then - preferably repeating the same stuff over and over - would never ever actually stand up for the stuff they post. Had they lived before social-media-times they would be little, lonely, greay creatures who only see sunlight on their way to work.

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Oh, I am sorry, I thought this thread was in the "International affairs/politics" section.
It is. But you have to admit that the past weeks it didn't have much to do with international politics. I - as a non-American - would like to get info on what's really happening. Few people actually post links that lead me to those infos. Let me thank those at this point. But most posts just make me waste my time looking through the thread to find sone actual info.
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I am sorry that you do not like us pointing out the continuous stream of lies issuing from your hero!

Why I would need something in common with the US in order to recognise a blatant lie is something that requires a proper explanation from you rather than just your usual stream of impolite language?
Some lies;
  • It did not rain during my inauguration speech
  • My crowd was larger than Obama's
  • Something happened in Sweden last night
  • Fake News media (enemy of the people!)

But that stuff is petty - and really just a convenient smoke-screen for the stuff going on in the background (which conveniently gets ignored).

As a 9/11-truther (and hobby-magician) once put it: "You wan can pull-off any conjuring trick (however huge and complicated it is) - if only the diversion is large enough".

Obama basically doubled the deficit in his two terms - but nobody was ever worried about that, even though it certainly cripples the abilities of the US on several levels.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Having watched the man, there definitely seems to be a temporal relationship with whatever he has just watched on Fox News or listened to on the radio and his latest twitter or stage utterings. Cases in point were the Sweden story, Chelsea Manning etc..

He receives meticulously researched briefings, talking points, reports etc.. and yet chooses to talk off the cuff about stuff he's heard on Fox, read on Twitter or someone told him in the mens room. Even his most ardent defenders have to conclude this is wrong... no???
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