Will Trump be a Good President? - Page 248

marton · #**4941** 21.02.2017, 18:39

	Quote:	BokerTov
	Yes yes yes! Comparatively, I was much more crushed/disappointed at discovering Ayn Rand's inherent hypocrisy than at discovering that Santa does not exist. I'm not even kidding.

Where does the tooth fairy fit on your scale?

nigelr · #**4942** 21.02.2017, 18:52

	Quote:	BokerTov
	Yes yes yes! Comparatively, I was much more crushed/disappointed at discovering Ayn Rand's inherent hypocrisy than at discovering that Santa does not exist. I'm not even kidding.

She wasn't really a hypocrite, she always looked out for number 1. Sure she took money from the state but she had paid in all her life, and you could argue it was being selfish and not worrying about anybody else. Values that she propagated through her books.

(I'm not saying she was right though).

spalebärg · #**4943** 21.02.2017, 18:54

Had a good laugh this evening.

In a cafe in Basel today I picked up a copy of 20 Min. and read how the Sweden PM was explaining to "The Donald" that Sweden has no problems with Muslims getting out of hand.
At home later this afternoon on the Net I saw the news that "Riots broke out on Monday night in the suburb of Rinkeby, where a majority of residents were born overseas, just hours after the country’s Prime Minister attacked U.S President Donald J. Trump for linking mass migration with rising violence in Sweden."

Looks like their PM was a bit hasty giving his all clear.

PS video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu27Bsurl-g

spalebärg · #**4944** 21.02.2017, 20:10

As a follow-up to my previous post...

Yesterday SRF Tagesschau (Swiss TV Daily-news) gleefully used the opportunity to report a negative item about how the Swedish PM had 'corrected' Donald Trump.
Logically, one could think that today's news from Sweden would require the Tagesschau to report how there had indeed been some fairly heavy rioting in an immigrant quarter the very next day. But no, I have just finished watching the 19:00 evening news and can report that our local Swiss newscasters -- who are funded by mandatory fees by the public, -- held back on something that they no doubt found rather embarrassing. What utterly useless bums!!
Good that there are alternative media.

#**4945** 21.02.2017, 20:33

	Quote:	lewton
	Trump is ridiculous. He is a sociopath. He is a horrible person. He will ruin the US of A. I agree to all the above. But George Bush Jr ruined the Middle East and created the chaos that we are facing today. So he was the worst president of the two IMHO.

This is what I don't get. Bush left the middle east in ruins. Launched an illegal war, opened Guantanamo and illegally kidnapped people to put in there. He is responsible for the death and displacement of millions.

Obama droned thousands to their deaths. He armed jihadists. But he did it in a stately manner and is able to give a good speech.

By comparison Trump has done NOTHING. Yet he has had to put up with so many more protests, screaming, hysteria in on month than either of these previous Presidents.

marton · #**4946** 21.02.2017, 20:42

	Quote:	spalebärg
	Had a good laugh this evening. In a cafe in Basel today I picked up a copy of 20 Min. and read how the Sweden PM was explaining to "The Donald" that Sweden has no problems with Muslims getting out of hand. At home later this afternoon on the Net I saw the news that "Riots broke out on Monday night in the suburb of Rinkeby, where a majority of residents were born overseas, just hours after the country’s Prime Minister attacked U.S President Donald J. Trump for linking mass migration with rising violence in Sweden." Looks like their PM was a bit hasty giving his all clear. PS video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu27Bsurl-g

You are laughing because there was a riot!

#**4947** 21.02.2017, 20:50

	Quote:	Loz1983
	This is what I don't get. Bush left the middle east in ruins. Launched an illegal war, opened Guantanamo and illegally kidnapped people to put in there. He is responsible for the death and displacement of millions. Obama droned thousands to their deaths. He armed jihadists. But he did it in a stately manner and is able to give a good speech. By comparison Trump has done NOTHING. Yet he has had to put up with so many more protests, screaming, hysteria in on month than either of these previous Presidents.

Are you saying there was never a peep of protest against Obama in all of his 8 years? Nobody said a cross word against him? Not one teeny weeny republican getting his knickers in a knot about any of Obama's changes or policies?

marton · #**4948** 21.02.2017, 21:00

	Quote:	Loz1983
	This is what I don't get. Bush left the middle east in ruins. Launched an illegal war, opened Guantanamo and illegally kidnapped people to put in there. He is responsible for the death and displacement of millions. Obama droned thousands to their deaths. He armed jihadists. But he did it in a stately manner and is able to give a good speech. By comparison Trump has done NOTHING. Yet he has had to put up with so many more protests, screaming, hysteria in on month than either of these previous Presidents.

Well do give Trump time!

He already ordered death dealing drone strikes in Yemen at inauguration time plus authorising an US raid that killed civilians including children and a US Navy Seal.

marton · #**4949** 21.02.2017, 21:22

	Quote:	fduvall
	I am a bit puzzled by the extreme reaction on college campuses, but that IS precisely why Milo is doing his cross-country campus tour; to "trigger" the college snowflakes on their own ground and expose the mindset that has taken over the "college campus" (at least in the US). When I was at Cal/Berkeley, and when I envisioned what college would be like during my teenage years, I imagined it to be a place where ideas of ALL types would be shared, bantered over, debated. It was pretty regular during the 70s to read about demonstrations at Cal and Stanford (which I grew up next to). Today, though, it appears that many students are more concerned with their universities being "safe spaces" where they need to be protected from exposure to ideas that make them uncomfortable. Professors live in fear that they may "trigger" students by discussing unpopular/uncomfortable ideas that could lead to a complaint being made and often putting their job at risk. But isn't this the point of higher learning, imo. In the USA, "going away to college" is a rite of passage and one way to leave the nest/safe space of your parents home. It was also a place where you went to get exposed to the "ideas" that are out in the "real world;" good and bad. I say, Go Milo!

Milo Yiannopoulos has resigned from Breitbart; karma!

#**4950** 21.02.2017, 21:23

	Quote:
	Are you saying there was never a peep of protest against Obama in all of his 8 years? Nobody said a cross word against him? Not one teeny weeny republican getting his knickers in a knot about any of Obama's changes or policies?

No, I'm saying what we're seeing with Trump is on an another level.

#**4951** 21.02.2017, 21:24

	Quote:	spalebärg
	As a follow-up to my previous post... Yesterday SRF Tagesschau (Swiss TV Daily-news) gleefully used the opportunity to report a negative item about how the Swedish PM had 'corrected' Donald Trump. Logically, one could think that today's news from Sweden would require the Tagesschau to report how there had indeed been some fairly heavy rioting in an immigrant quarter the very next day. But no, I have just finished watching the 19:00 evening news and can report that our local Swiss newscasters -- who are funded by mandatory fees by the public, -- held back on something that they no doubt found rather embarrassing. What utterly useless bums!! Good that there are alternative media.

But the news isn't biased... There is no agenda...

#**4952** 21.02.2017, 21:25

For the first time - you are defo NOT wrong there- he has potential no-one else ever had before ...hence ...

parnell · #**4953** 21.02.2017, 21:30

	Quote:	marton
	Milo Yiannopoulos has resigned from Breitbart; karma!

Makes the BBC news... riots in Sweden don't - laughable!

marton · #**4954** 21.02.2017, 21:32

	Quote:	spalebärg
	As a follow-up to my previous post... Yesterday SRF Tagesschau (Swiss TV Daily-news) gleefully used the opportunity to report a negative item about how the Swedish PM had 'corrected' Donald Trump. Logically, one could think that today's news from Sweden would require the Tagesschau to report how there had indeed been some fairly heavy rioting in an immigrant quarter the very next day. But no, I have just finished watching the 19:00 evening news and can report that our local Swiss newscasters -- who are funded by mandatory fees by the public, -- held back on something that they no doubt found rather embarrassing. What utterly useless bums!! Good that there are alternative media.

" our local Swiss newscasters -- who are funded by mandatory fees by the [Swiss public]" fail to report everything that happens in Sweden (the 90th largest country).
How surprising, who knows maybe they will also not report everything that happens in other similar size countries like Benin or Belarus!!

marton · #**4955** 21.02.2017, 21:39

	Quote:	parnell
	Makes the BBC news... riots in Sweden don't - laughable!

Terrible, the BBC also totally failed to report Swedish Princess Madeleine is writing a children's book.
Nothing in the publicly funded Swiss services either

#**4956** 21.02.2017, 21:57

	Quote:	marton
	Milo Yiannopoulos has resigned from Breitbart; karma!

You think this is the end of him? Lol.

parnell · #**4957** 21.02.2017, 22:09

	Quote:	marton
	Terrible, the BBC also totally failed to report Swedish Princess Madeleine is writing a children's book. Nothing in the publicly funded Swiss services either

20min , CNN , Washington Post all over it...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...aks-out-sweden

	Quote:
	At 22:20 the police attacked a second time by the youth gang. It was about a planned, concerted attack where the young people rushed towards the police and threw stones. A police officer was hit by a stone on his arm, but it is unclear how seriously injured he was. Police headlining the event as assaulting a police officer and rioting. No person should even have been arrested in connection with the stoning. Police EMS Units have been blocked from entering...

Well I guess if no-one was arrested then nothing happened right Marton ???

#**4958** 21.02.2017, 22:13

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Marton, educate thyself. All facts hyperlinked. No, Fox News & Trump aren’t lying about Sweden I'll lol once more when the Sweden Democrats win next year. Again, just for you:

Trump is a lax and sloppy talker. He's often very imprecise with what he says and how he says them. Yet on most issues to date, he's been pretty much right nevertheless.

That is why he keeps winning.

Even in regards to the situation in Sweden, he won again.

parnell · #**4959** 21.02.2017, 22:20

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...reigners-chart

	Quote:
	The cost of Sweden’s generous asylum policy can now be seen in its unemployment data. While a reinvigorated economy is driving down the overall jobless rate, recent arrivals are being left behind and the majority of Sweden’s unemployed are now foreigners, up from about 40 percent two years ago. This share will likely continue to grow as only about 25 percent of refugees that have arrived over the past eight years have a full-time job.

Yup some economy alright...

marton · #**4960** 21.02.2017, 22:59

	Quote:	parnell
	20min , CNN , Washington Post all over it... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...aks-out-sweden Well I guess if no-one was arrested then nothing happened right Marton ???

According to the Swedish newspapers and according to police press spokesman Lars Bystrom there were 30 to 50 people involved.
Two people were assaulted; one was a press photographer and the other a shopkeeper trying to protect his goods.
One person was arrested for a drug offence.
The area is now quiet and police are patrolling.