Immigration works here because the Swiss don't pander to the sensibilities of their guests. And they will only accept people who have something to contribute.

I'll take that as a "no" then.

So go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

Is it just me that is wondering why "immigration" in general is being confused with "refugees" on this thread?

The subject over the last few posts seems to be of refugees pouring into Europe from Syria, etc., which is a totally different bag to the "immigration" that is being used in posts here.

There are refugees here in Switzerland, from Syria and other stricken places, but they are being processed in pretty much the same way as the rest of Europe - contained in refugee centres, food/clothes donations, volunteers, charity funding, limited state funding, etc., and a gradual integration process for those accepted.

There are schools in our area with a handful of refugee kids coming in every so often.

The full transcript:

So he ties Sweden in with other countries and cities that have had terrorist attacks, but he wasnt referring specifically to that when he said Sweden (even though he never clarified such a tenuous separation)

Sounds like desperate reconciling of fact and fiction.

He tweeted later:

That story?
Here it is:

So, in summary:
> Fox News makes up a story about a 'terrorist Islamic attack not that long ago'
> Moron sees this and doesn't bother fact checking
> Moron claims it happened on a national address, triggering international outcry at his level of idiocy.
> People point out the whole thing is BS. Neither the FoxNews story, nor that of the Moron actually happened.
> Moron's acolytes claim it did happen citing zero evidence, and claim anything contradictory is FAKE NEWS!!!!!

Like i said, the stench of desperation is overpoweringly nauseating.

And the garnish on top of this delicious smorgasbord of lunacy, fake news, and blind obedience to a man unable to differentiate arse from elbow...

The documentary that Fox aired that kicked all this off?

This is what the interviewees of said documentary had to say about it:

I forget, is Dagens Nyeter fake news too? Or are the interviewed policemen Fake Policemen?

Is Sweden a Fake country?

Its so hard to keep track of all this fakery.

Was he? You don't know that for sure. I'm not sure anyone really knows what he's trying to say, you're just as guilty of second-guessing what he meant as those you accuse. His speeches consist of mostly incoherent ramblings with a healthy dose of incorrect facts "he was given" or "saw on the news".

Well actually people do listen and they do try to affect change, but people like you who constantly scaremonger because you are afraid of different cultures are quite frankly racist.

Child grooming by Peadophiles in Brussels by mostly white Europeans, child abuse in Britain celebrity TV stars, and Europe and America mostly white men. Terrorist attacks in Germany, mostly politically motivated leftwing or rightwing white fanatics. Multiculturalism has not failed, the actions of the few does not speak for the successful intergration of the many who contribute massively to the societies they have joined.

I wonder how intergrated you and Parnell are here in Switzerland? I doubt you have that many friends though, because you hold rather vile views and I doubt very much your Schweizer Duetsch is up to scratch.

Not forgetting the scandal of covered-up/ignored global systematic child abuse by the catholic church.

BBC report on the troubles in Sweden,

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39047455

so did Trump predict the "riot" or did he cause it?

Different views from mine are vile. Check.
Different views from mine are racist. Check.
Ad hominem. Check.

And this is why the world doesn't take people like you seriously anymore.

"Please stop talking as I don't like what you're saying!"

Lol.

As a side note, unrelated to the thread, ive noticed something interesting.

Loz1983 makes a point > somebody counters the point with relevant counter-points.

Somebody makes a counterpoint > Loz1983 attempts to discredit, with no further counterpoints.

A pattern is developing here.

Proof?

When someone goes ad hominem then there is no point in discussing further.

Nope. Live by your own words.

A bit below the belt, perhaps. But on the other hand- it would be fair to ask where you have 'escaped from and why' - and what your particular contribution is here in CH? Ad Hominem- not really in the context of your comments re immigrants.

I was born and raised here, and we had 1000s of immigrants arrive when I was little- and they all contributed in their own way- making huge sacrifices along the way. Same culture you'll say- but in the 50s, Italian and Spanish Catholics here had a totally different culture to the locals, and yes, it did cause friction at times.

And then lived in one of the most multi-cultural towns of the UK- and I can assure you that the problems in that town were not caused by the immigrants overall- and they did contribute hugely. They worked very hard- as Business/employers, employees at all levels, as well as teachers, doctors, nurses, etc, etc, The 3 main estates where all the 'problems' were concentrated, and all the 2nd, 3rd generation unemployed, including the neo-nazis- were practically 100% white UK.

Maybe but as you've probably noticed before talking about Brexit, I get very short with people that refuse to apply their own philosophy to themselves.

If someone thinks immigration is an "ongoing disaster" then wtf are they doing as an immigrant themselves

No, bad immigants, the forrin ones.

"Please stop talking as I don't like what you're saying!"

If you would look my posting history on here you would know I'm pro-immigration. You just have to send a CV first, fit in, not impose your culture on others and not become a burden upon the state. It's that simple.

European immigration is an ongoing disaster because successive governments and leaders have been too spineless to regulate it according to these simple criteria.

Switzerland does. Hence it works.

Different views are tremendous, but please offer reasonable arguments and not the scare mongering and stereotyping you are so happy to focus on, especially because they are mostly the sort of propaganda being served up by nice people from organisations like Britain First, the EDF and the AfD, the Alt-Right etc. Yes you have racist and dangerous views.