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Most of those other parts of the world were ravaged by European colonialism.
Like the USA, Canada, Australia? You're right, those poor souls should be saved, let's send them money and invite them all to come to Europe and live on EU welfare


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War and poverty are good agents of instability. So we can eat cheap bananas and drink cheap coffee, etc.

'Swiss' chocolate.
War for sure isn't good for stable exports.
But speaking of natural resources, the Middle East has tons of gas there, strange why everyone there is "fleeing poverty"
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Old 24.02.2017, 21:08
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War for sure isn't good for stable exports.
But speaking of natural resources, the Middle East has tons of gas there, strange why everyone there is "fleeing poverty"
They aren't fleeing poverty, they are fleeing the pillaging that's being done to their homes by the West for those resources.
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Old 24.02.2017, 21:59
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They aren't fleeing poverty, they are fleeing the pillaging that's being done to their homes by the West for those resources.
What resources exactly is the West getting from Syria, Afghanistan, etc.?
Should the West just up sticks and leave? They can handle things on their own there?
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That people are able to call Trump "fascist" and then aren't put in prison for it more or less proves he isn't a fascist.

And still they don't get it.
I think thats the point, he would love to be able to do that. The fascist bit comes from the similarity he and his cronies have to past fascist regimes and how they respond to the media who disagree with them and how they are selectively laying the blame of Americas ills on minority groups and the most marginalised in society, how they use lies and then accuse others of lying, including threatening rhetoric to attack opponents of their policies. He condones torture, he endorses the Christian right, his main advisor is Steve Bannon, need I say more?

And you still don't get it!

But then again you are the sort of person who doesn't give a flying FLICK because these issues won't be affecting you.

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Old 24.02.2017, 22:12
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I think thats the point, he would love to be able to do that. The fascist bit comes from the similarity he and his cronies have to past fascist regimes and how they respond to the media who disagree with them and how they are selectively laying the blame of Americas ills on minority groups and the most marginalised in society, how they use lies and then accuse others of lying, including threatening rhetoric to attack opponents of their policies. He condones torture, he endorses the Christian right, his main advisor is Steve Bannon, need I say more?

And you still don't get it!

But then again you are the sort of person who doesn't give a flying FLICK because these issues won't be affecting you.

Errr, I think its you and your side that wish they can put people in prison.
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Old 24.02.2017, 22:21
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War for sure isn't good for stable exports.
But speaking of natural resources, the Middle East has tons of gas there, strange why everyone there is "fleeing poverty"
Not that I can be particularly arsed to explain it to you, but ownership of that petrol is in the hands of the few dictators/royals or owned by large petroleum companies, that wealth is not really being shared about. But the people who are fleeing the ME are fleeing the myriad of conflicts, wars, bombs, bang bang booms and religious fanatics and secular factions...

Still a lot of people are fleeing poverty at the same time, maybe just not from Syria or Yemen, Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia, the Congo and the ton of other countries that have been left embroiled in conflicts for the last decade or two.
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Old 24.02.2017, 23:15
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Errr, I think its you and your side that wish they can put people in prison.
Don't you have better things to do with your time Phos, after 7k posts you'd think maybe too much time on your hands, do you rant on other forums too?
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Old 24.02.2017, 23:28
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Like the USA, Canada, Australia? You're right, those poor souls should be saved, let's send them money and invite them all to come to Europe and live on EU welfare



War for sure isn't good for stable exports.
But speaking of natural resources, the Middle East has tons of gas there, strange why everyone there is "fleeing poverty"
"the Middle East has tons of gas there, strange why everyone there is "fleeing poverty" "

You should feel ashamed of this comment!
You really believe the super rich at the top of these countries are in any way or means sharing this wealth with "the people"-

Take Iraq as an example "The vast majority of Iraqi continues to lack the proper education and adequate employment opportunities".

Despite the fact there are at least ten super rich or billionaires in Iraq.

Ot course it is a fair question to ask "is this a problem for the West"?

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

It looks to me as if American democracy is doomed. I read that according to a new change in Arizona Law, your property may be forfeited if you are found guilty of breaking the law while demonstrating. It will be interesting to see how this is applied- there are always the agitators, but what happens to those who are demonstrating peacefully but get caught up in the agitators net?

http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2017/...n-on-protests/

Also, all the environmental protection measures, finance regulation and Obamacare that came about under Obama will be rolled back.

Apart form the above Trump and his cabinet have poor popularity ratings home and abroad.

On top of that, most Republicans are more concerned with keeping their positions than serving the public and as they are in the majority Trump will have his way.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/o...ooks-like.html
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Like the USA, Canada, Australia? You're right, those poor souls should be saved, let's send them money and invite them all to come to Europe and live on EU welfare
If you check up what happened you might find that there we shot the locals and stole their countries.
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What idiot made this decision?!!!! So much for freedom of the press.
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Among organisations denied access were CNN, the New York Times, Politico, the Los Angeles Times and BuzzFeed.


Those selected to attend included Fox and NBC, and conservative media organisations such as The Washington Times.
http://news.sky.com/story/white-hous...efing-10780519
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What resources exactly is the West getting from Syria, Afghanistan, etc.?
Should the West just up sticks and leave? They can handle things on their own there?
Why do you think the West is there to begin with?
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What idiot made this decision?!!!! So much for freedom of the press.
http://news.sky.com/story/white-hous...efing-10780519
Sean Spicer and DT made that decision as anyone who criticises the regime, is accused of propagating fake news. So much for the freedom of press under this narcissistic pseudo dictator.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39085235
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Why do you think the West is there to begin with?
Syria is a proxy war between the West and Russia. Iraq was partly a lets finish kicking Saddams butt for invading Kuwait and threatening Western allies in the region. Afghanistan was a go get the baddies and those that help the baddies that successfully attacked America. (the natural resources, such as oil, gas and reconstruction profits are sidelines).

At least thats what I choose to believe, aside from the military industrial complex involvement I don't particularly believe in most of the conspiracy theories, however it is a lot about a little of everything, geopolitics, religion, resources and power allies.
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Don't you have better things to do with your time Phos, after 7k posts you'd think maybe too much time on your hands, do you rant on other forums too?
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It looks to me as if American democracy is doomed.
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Syria is a proxy war between the West and Russia. Iraq was partly a lets finish kicking Saddams butt for invading Kuwait and threatening Western allies in the region. Afghanistan was a go get the baddies and those that help the baddies that successfully attacked America. (the natural resources, such as oil, gas and reconstruction profits are sidelines).

At least thats what I choose to believe, aside from the military industrial complex involvement I don't particularly believe in most of the conspiracy theories, however it is a lot about a little of everything, geopolitics, religion, resources and power allies.
And driven by everybody's best mate .. SAUDI ARABIA... which apparently had nothing to do with 9/11
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Like the USA, Canada, Australia? You're right, those poor souls should be saved, let's send them money and invite them all to come to Europe and live on EU welfare

War for sure isn't good for stable exports.
But speaking of natural resources, the Middle East has tons of gas there, strange why everyone there is "fleeing poverty"
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What resources exactly is the West getting from Syria, Afghanistan, etc.?
Should the West just up sticks and leave? They can handle things on their own there?
wooow....just wooow. Your lack of basic understanding of geopolitics explains everything now.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-briefing.html

Yeah, lame duck
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Syria is a proxy war between the West and Russia. Iraq was partly a lets finish kicking Saddams butt for invading Kuwait and threatening Western allies in the region. Afghanistan was a go get the baddies and those that help the baddies that successfully attacked America. (the natural resources, such as oil, gas and reconstruction profits are sidelines).

At least thats what I choose to believe, aside from the military industrial complex involvement I don't particularly believe in most of the conspiracy theories, however it is a lot about a little of everything, geopolitics, religion, resources and power allies.
I agree with most of that, though I was hoping Esto will answer with his opinion...
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Sean Spicer and DT made that decision as anyone who criticises the regime, is accused of propagating fake news. So much for the freedom of press under this narcissistic pseudo dictator.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39085235
LOL. The White House meets with any press they choose to. Obama hand picked which press he met with, and excluded others. He even investigated some for asking the wrong questions.

Nevertheless, its fun to watch Tapper and the rest whine.

Fake news about fake news.
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