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EU considering imposing visa requirements for US citizens due to the US not providing reciprocity for Bulgarians, Croatians, Cypriots, Poles and Romanians under the visa free agreement.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39143806

I don't agree with EU on this one, neither with the whole silliness with Canada - on the same subject. It has become quite easy to get a visa for the USA these days if you meet the requirements. The rate of rejections has dropped significantly and the whole visa process will move towards being a "formality".
There are other things EU should think of.. imo.
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So the defence of the most powerful legal officer in the US is that he was not able to formulate his answer accurately on such a sensitive issue!
You really believe he is the right man for the job?
Where did I say he's the right man for the job? I simply said his press conference cleared up the question of his contacts with the Russian ambassador, at least from my perspective.

I don't think it had to do with formulating an accurate answer - keep in mind he's a trained lawyer so he knows about how one should phrase answers during sworn testimony. It can be accurate, but a bit incomplete.

In the context of the questioning, it is reasonable (to me) that Sessions thought he was being asked if he had contacts with Russian operatives on behalf of the Trump campaign. He didn't. He met with an ambassador while he was sitting in his Senate office with staff members present. Not exactly a covert meeting on behalf of Trump. He met with 24 other ambassadors last year as well.

The fact he's recused himself from any Trump-Russia investigation shows he has at least a measurable amount of respect for the office of AG and to me, that's a good thing.
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Where did I say he's the right man for the job? I simply said his press conference cleared up the question of his contacts with the Russian ambassador, at least from my perspective.

I don't think it had to do with formulating an accurate answer - keep in mind he's a trained lawyer so he knows about how one should phrase answers during sworn testimony. It can be accurate, but a bit incomplete.

In the context of the questioning, it is reasonable (to me) that Sessions thought he was being asked if he had contacts with Russian operatives on behalf of the Trump campaign. He didn't. He met with an ambassador while he was sitting in his Senate office with staff members present. Not exactly a covert meeting on behalf of Trump. He met with 24 other ambassadors last year as well.

The fact he's recused himself from any Trump-Russia investigation shows he has at least a measurable amount of respect for the office of AG and to me, that's a good thing.
As I understand it, he used Trump campaign funds to pay for the trip and somebody else from Trumps entourage was there. Well, not only there but also got to speak to the Russian Ambassador.

Sessions is allegedly lying about both facts and seems to have been caught out. I don't think he can survive it given what happened to Flynn.

There are also as yet unconfirmed reports that other Trump advisors also met the Russians during the campaign.
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Hillary must be laughing!!
Are you tempted to send an email to Mike.Pence@aol.com to see if he answers? Could have been worse. He could have used Yahoo.

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It has become quite easy to get a visa for the USA these days if you meet the requirements. The rate of rejections has dropped significantly and the whole visa process will move towards being a "formality".
Sorry, but where are you getting this info from? The current ESTA system has serious flaws. The point that the EU is making is that the US aren't treating all EU citizens in the same manner, so they are duty bound to respond to that.
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Sorry, but where are you getting this info from? The current ESTA system has serious flaws. The point that the EU is making is that the US aren't treating all EU citizens in the same manner, so they are duty bound to respond to that.
I admit, I don't have official stats or anything like that (well, the ones I read about are kind of old data now). Haven't heard of anyone being rejected in the last 5-10 years or so; before that was close to impossible (seriously now). I'm talking about tourist visas, not work visas.

The USA isn't treating all the EU citizens in the same manner, but....neither EU.
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As I understand it, he used Trump campaign funds to pay for the trip and somebody else from Trumps entourage was there. Well, not only there but also got to speak to the Russian Ambassador.

Sessions is allegedly lying about both facts and seems to have been caught out. I don't think he can survive it given what happened to Flynn.

There are also as yet unconfirmed reports that other Trump advisors also met the Russians during the campaign.
As I understand it, Sessions used his own senate campaign funds, not Trump campaign funds. That's quite common for members of Congress attending national conventions. And of course being the Republican National Convention there were going to be lots of Trump people there.

I don't know about other Trump surrogates, but I think Sessions will not suffer any consequences. He was a sitting member of Congress at the time he testified, his party is in power so they're not likely to do/investigate anything, and there is no proof that Sessions spoke about the Trump campaign in the meetings with the Russian ambassador.

I am not a Trump fan, but I think this is much ado about (almost) nothing.
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I admit, I don't have official stats or anything like that (well, the ones I read about are kind of old data now). Haven't heard of anyone being rejected in the last 5-10 years or so; before that was close to impossible (seriously now). I'm talking about tourist visas, not work visas.
Ok. Just that I dealt with business visas from 2005-2015 on a daily basis and it wasn't unusual for people to be denied. One of our clients (a very high ranking guy at a household name company) appealed the decision repeatedly for over 2yrs before he was allowed into the country. I've known of literally dozens of applications being declined, both business and leisure, and had to arrange interview appointments for people at the Embassy. Obviously, I can't go into details too much, but I've known of some truly terrible decisions, particularly with families being relocated by employers.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Seems to have put his foot in his mouth again?
Best reply so far "I think someone handed him the wrong envelope"
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As I understand it, he used Trump campaign funds to pay for the trip and somebody else from Trumps entourage was there. Well, not only there but also got to speak to the Russian Ambassador.

Sessions is allegedly lying about both facts and seems to have been caught out. I don't think he can survive it given what happened to Flynn.

There are also as yet unconfirmed reports that other Trump advisors also met the Russians during the campaign.
You mean this?
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Attorney General Jeff Sessions is not the only member of President Trump’s campaign who spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at a diplomacy conference connected to the Republican National Convention in July.
It's unknown what the Trump campaign officials who spoke with the ambassador – J.D. Gordon and Carter Page – discussed with him.
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Page cited “confidentiality rules” in declining to say what he discussed with the ambassador.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

CNN claims that four other Trump Cabinet members gave testimony that was "not true".

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CNN claims that four other Trump Cabinet members gave testimony that was "not true".

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Reminds me of this tv-series:

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1st season was great, BTW, but only went downhill.
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As I understand it, Sessions used his own senate campaign funds, not Trump campaign funds. That's quite common for members of Congress attending national conventions. And of course being the Republican National Convention there were going to be lots of Trump people there.

I don't know about other Trump surrogates, but I think Sessions will not suffer any consequences. He was a sitting member of Congress at the time he testified, his party is in power so they're not likely to do/investigate anything, and there is no proof that Sessions spoke about the Trump campaign in the meetings with the Russian ambassador.

I am not a Trump fan, but I think this is much ado about (almost) nothing.
Sessions is safe anyway
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When Senator Sessions testified as a sitting U.S. Senator before the Senate Judiciary Committee his entire testimony became constitutionally privileged speech for which he may not be “questioned in any other place.”

The Supreme Court has interpreted the Speech or Debate clause very broadly. In Gravel v. United States, (1972), the Court ruled that the Clause applies not only to speeches on the floor of each House but also to testimony before congressional committees.
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CNN claims that four other Trump Cabinet members gave testimony that was "not true".
And now Trump is demanding investigations into Schumer and Pelosi...

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We should start an immediate investigation into @SenSchumer and his ties to Russia and Putin. A total hypocrite!
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I hereby demand a second investigation, after Schumer, of Pelosi for her close ties to Russia, and lying about it.
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Strange tactic to demand these investigations, this means he is also agreeing by implication to the proposed investigations into his team and their Russia links!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Following a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) intelligence report last week rebuffing President Trump’s claims that citizens from seven predominantly Muslim countries pose an increased terror threat, there was a new DHS intelligence report this week.

It is claimed this analysis concludes that the majority of foreign-born, U.S.-based violent extremists were radicalised several years after their entry into the U.S.
This makes it difficult to devise a ban that can forecast how people's views will change some years down the road.
This report may be linked to the ever longer delay in issuing a revised ban?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A very interesting and well documented article about the effects of Trump's victory in Central and Eastern-Europe

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/w...ollection&_r=0


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“You couldn’t come up with a better enemy figure today,” said Jan Orlovsky, director of the Slovak branch of the Open Society Foundations. “George Soros brings up all of the stereotypes we have lived with all our lives — about Jews, bankers and, in Slovakia, also about Hungarians.”

Chris Stone, the president of the Open Society Foundations, described the governmental crackdowns as “a campaign by government leaders who are impatient with the institutions of democracy.”

Macedonia, struggling to form a new government in the debris of a two-year political crisis, has taken perhaps the most forceful anti-Soros stance. The Stop Operation Soros campaign pushes the idea that international pressure — from N.G.O.s and Western governments — forced the recent fall of the right-wing government of Mr. Gruevski, who hopes to return to power.

“We believe that, in these murky times, it is really important to take away the mask of the so-called civic organizations and to clearly reveal their political goals and actions, as well as their financing,” said Nenad Mirchevski, a founder of the movement.

In Poland, against a flare-up of anti-Soros statements, Prime Minister Beata Szydlo said her government intended to create a new body to coordinate state funding for all nongovernmental organizations. In Slovakia, a far-right-wing party proposed forcing “foreign-funded” N.G.O.s to register with the government. That effort did not succeed, but that did little to slow the tide of anti-Soros speech.

“Demonic forces of evil, represented by Soros, the Clintons, the Bush family and others, have not come to terms with losing the election, so they keep attacking Trump and want to get rid of him,” said a recent article in Hlavne Spravy, a right-wing Slovak daily.

From the moment Romania’s nominally socialist party was returned to power in December, its populist leader, Liviu Dragnea, has pressed for more control over N.G.O.s. “I have something against Mr. Soros,” Mr. Dragnea said in a late January interview. In Bulgaria, both Mr. Soros and organizations that defend human rights have come under attack. A local newspaper, shortly after Mr. Trump’s victory, described Mr. Soros as a “liberal terrorist.” In Serbia, local right-wing and pro-Russian publications have linked Mr. Soros to the Rothschilds, highlighted his Jewishness and described his efforts as an “anti-Trump radical movement.”

“And we are only at the start of the story,” said Laszlo Majtenyi, director of the Eotvos Karoly Institute in Budapest, a Soros-founded organization, and a left-wing coalition candidate for president in April. Once the government has stigmatized the groups as “foreign-funded,” he said, future crackdowns will be easier.

And there is always the chance that authoritarian governments will feel emboldened enough to simply toss out the offending organizations.

“This is where European democratic values will be defended,” said Goran Buldioski, director of the Open Society Initiative for Europe. “In Hungary and Poland, not in Western Europe. Democracy is more than just the ballot box, and it is more than something that happens every four years.”
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A very interesting and well documented article about the effects of Trump's victory in Central and Eastern-Europe

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/w...ollection&_r=0
Not sure wheat this has to do with Trump. There's been talk about Soros and his activities and indeed calls to curtail them long before Trump even announced his bid to run.
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Not sure wheat this has to do with Trump. There's been talk about Soros and his activities and indeed calls to curtail them long before Trump even announced his bid to run.
The title of the article was "After Trump Win, Anti-Soros Forces Are Emboldened in Eastern Europe". The author of the article has seen a link between Trump's victory and the boldness of recent criticism of the N.G.Os financed by Sörös and well, of Sörös himself. There's been talk about Sörös and his activities for a long time, true, but I tend to agree with this journalist on the amplitude of recent criticism - in a few cases it touches ridiculousness. Whether is has to do with Trump's victory it's debatable, for sure.
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now...waiting for jeff sessions press conference any minute now. Hmmm...
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Oh...my...word!

Can Trump make such allegations without there being repercussions? This is virtually an admission of guilt because he's implying that the info about Russian meetings is coming from a wire tap at Trump Towers.

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The first meeting Jeff Sessions had with the Russian Amb was set up by the Obama Administration under education program for 100 Ambs......
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Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
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Just out: The same Russian Ambassador that met Jeff Sessions visited the Obama White House 22 times, and 4 times last year alone.
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Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!
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I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!
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How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
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