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Old 08.03.2017, 10:30
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His religion wasn't relevant in him being denied a visa. HTH.
Or to this thread. Keep up.
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Old 08.03.2017, 10:37
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His religion wasn't relevant in him being denied a visa. HTH.
Oh, OK. Which element of "current policy" led the US official to deny a visa, then?
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Old 08.03.2017, 10:42
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Oh, OK. Which element of "current policy" led the US official to deny a visa, then?
Here, let me help.

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The two men were initially denied visas to travel to the United States in the chaotic days following the Trump administration’s travel ban. The reasons for the rejections remain unclear — India is not among the seven countries named in Trump’s executive order
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That people find it perfectly OK for a news source to refer to the same person differently in two different headlines also explains why the same people are still scratching their heads trying to work out how Trump won.
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Old 08.03.2017, 10:48
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That people find it perfectly OK for a news source to refer to the same person differently in two different headlines also explains why the same people are still scratching their heads trying to work out how Trump won.
Your article reiterates that the initial refusal of the ban was in line with "current policy". What makes you think it wasn't due to the applicant's religion (in line with Trump's oft-repeated campaign pledge to ban Muslims from the US)?

What privileged information do you have to support your assertion that "his religion wasn't relevant in him being denied a visa"?

With regard to the two headlines: again, the man's religion was relevant to the first story and his nationality to the second. Note that the stories were filed by the BBC under "India".
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Your article reiterates that the initial refusal of the ban was in line with "current policy". What makes you think it wasn't due to the applicant's religion (in line with Trump's oft-repeated campaign pledge to ban Muslims from the US)?

What privileged information do you have to support your assertion that "his religion wasn't relevant in him being denied a visa"?
I don't know that his religion wasn't relevant to him being denied a visa. But likewise I don't know that it was relevant either. Neither does the BBC. Suggesting otherwise is being misleading.

They should have either referred to him as an "Indian athlete" in both headlines, or as a "Kashmir Muslim".
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They should have either referred to him as an "Indian athlete" in both headlines, or as a "Kashmir Muslim".
But then how could they manipulate public opinion and push their agenda?
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Old 08.03.2017, 11:51
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I don't know that his religion wasn't relevant to him being denied a visa.
Spot the difference?
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To be fair, if that's as biased as the Beeb gets, it doesn't seem to hold a candle to the likes of the Daily Mail's toe-curling headlines. Just flick through them, then google the amount of apologies and damages they've had to pay out.
Is that the bar now set for the BBC? 'It's not as bad as the Daily Mail'

Besides, isn't the BBC a public service which receives taxpayers money and are expected to provide unbiased and impartial reporting?
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Besides, isn't the BBC a public service which receives taxpayers money and are expected to provide unbiased and impartial reporting?
Worse than that, they put people in prison that don't pay.
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Is that the bar now set for the BBC? 'It's not as bad as the Daily Mail'

Besides, isn't the BBC a public service which receives taxpayers money and are expected to provide unbiased and impartial reporting?
Nope. It's nothing to do with tax.

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Worse than that, they put people in prison that don't pay.
Interesting that you think they jail people for not paying (do you have a source for that? The penalty for non-payment of your licence fee, that's FEE not tax, is £1000. Jail is only if you don't pay the penalty) but in the grand scheme of things, how do you think services should treat people who get their use out of them but don't pay for it? Don't want to pay? You simply have to prove you don't watch it - same as you do with Billag here in Switzerland.
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Besides, isn't the BBC a public service which receives taxpayers money and are expected to provide unbiased and impartial reporting?
I have two words for you... Australia...Murdoch.
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Nope. It's nothing to do with tax.
Ah, I stand corrected. It receives it's money through TV licensing (so from everyone in Britain who decides they want to receive television broadcasts)
So it's a public service broadcasting.

I still think 'it's not as bad as the Daily Mail' isn't really good enough.

But I guess that depends on whether it skews your way or not.
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So it's a public service broadcasting.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/govern...agreement.html
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So I still think 'it's not as bad as the Daily Mail' isn't really good enough.
It was more due to the fact that Loz was trumpeting that the BBC was biased when there are dozens of mainstream media houses on both sides of the political fence which make almost no attempt to cover up how embarrassingly biased they are. The DM was just one example.

So, to correct my original sentence: "It doesn't hold a candle to dozens of other publications and media houses when it comes to being biased."

Is that better?

Although, to go back to the DM - MailOnline is heavily right-wing biased but the Mail on Sunday swings back the other way and bashes Trump, Brexit, etc. so it's funny seeing left over articles on a Monday morning which don't get scrubbed off the front page of the website by the right-wing staff after the weekend...
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Interesting that you think they jail people for not paying (do you have a source for that? The penalty for non-payment of your licence fee, that's FEE not tax, is £1000. Jail is only if you don't pay the penalty) but in the grand scheme of things, how do you think services should treat people who get their use out of them but don't pay for it? Don't want to pay? You simply have to prove you don't watch it - same as you do with Billag here in Switzerland.

70 people in prison for not paying licence fee fine
. Which is more or less the same as not paying for the licence fee.

You get charged for having a TV, not for using the BBC services. You can't have a TV and not pay for a licence. This is an unfair tax, same as Billag.

Anyway, should probably switch this to another thread as it's off topic.
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His religion wasn't relevant in him being denied a visa. HTH.
So what was the reason?
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So what was the reason?
Nobody knows.

Maybe one prophetic visa officer suspected that he may commit a crime in the US?
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Nobody knows.

Maybe one prophetic visa officer suspected that he may commit a crime in the US?
So the first headline should have read "Potential sex abuse athlete denied US visa"?

Sounds like reasonable grounds to deny any- and everyone a visa to the US. Especially any applicants from Somalia et al. Double especially if they look, feel or sound Muslim.
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So the first headline should have read "Potential sex abuse athlete denied US visa"?

Sounds like reasonable grounds to deny any- and everyone a visa to the US. Especially any applicants from Somalia et al. Double especially if they look, feel or sound Muslim.
The US should allow all sex offenders into the country regardless of their backgrounds. Otherwise it's racist.

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How about trying hard to stop all sex offenders coming into the country- irrespective of race/ ethnicity, religion, nationality, etc.

But of course in Swedish terms- they would have to extradite pussy grabers. Good Where is that sarcasm emoj ?

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