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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Well one can grab at the pussy but grabbing the pussy itself requires finesse. And Trump does not have finesse.
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I certainly never grabbed anyone by the pussy!
Well it's not all about you, you know? I was talking about a certain sex offender (in Swedish terms) in the USA you seem to so admire. As for pussy grabbing techniques- ask him as he is the one who used the term 'grab them by the pussy'.
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Well one can grab at the pussy but grabbing the pussy itself requires finesse. And Trump does not have finesse.
Well with those small hands he's probably got some skills.

And FFS omtatsat why put your quotes under your text?!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Use quotation marks when you want to imply that the quoted word or phrase is dubious
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And FFS omtatsat why put your quotes under your text?!
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Old 08.03.2017, 18:51
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Not at all, and again. Having different opinions and personal taste is totally fine, but I linked to exactly where you were insulting the intelligence on many here by saying that we...
You allow me a personal pov? Great. Really?

I posted right after Rich, I knew nobody will squeez in. I should have posed it as a question and quote his marvelous contribution. What a criminal offence, insulting hundreds here.

You think it is insulting. Represent yourself. Posing as a defender of some vaguely defined "we" doesn't add credit.

The question stays.

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No. It's demeaning to make the assumption, that people form their opinions from the media...
Again, maybe I should have asked..do you get opinions from the media. Right? This was to Rich.

Demeaning? I know the left call the right "mean". I know the right calls the left ...uhm. "not the brightests", and other silly stuff, etc etc.

I don't really care, I am in this for an impersonal exchange. I am not dishing insults either, I only have a different opinion.

If people followed my posts instead of quickly classifying so they can get personal (and prevent impersonal exchange), they would know that I do not actually at all think people get opinions from media. Media are as biased and motivated as any other business. The competition is fierce and some are good, will last. But. Media offers povs that people are looking for. If you look for a particular pov, not only you will find it, but you will find it faster more of you there is. Says nothing about the "truth" you are seaking. Or affirmation.

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I'm interested in Trump only because what happens in the USA is interconnected with what happens in Europe and I feel there is a lot of insecurity re. Eastern Europe's faith..
Czech gov already stepped up NATO financial contributions disregarding what poor asses we are. They agree with Trump. And - the slightly right ish gov finished the year in positive figures. So we have to make good investments, long term.
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I was wondering about all the teepees during my daily commute this week.

Thousands expected at teepee camp on National Mall as part of demonstration for tribal rights

"Activists from tribes across the country set up camp there Tuesday, marking the start of what they called a symbolic four-day demonstration in support of indigenous people’s rights as well as to protest the Trump administration and the Dakota Access pipeline."

"More than 100 tribal nations will be represented at Friday’s rally in front of the White House, Mr. Goldtooth said. In the meantime, the teepee camp will serve as a “strong visual medium” to raise awareness for American Indian rights."
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That statement always fascinated me.
How does one 'grab a pussy' if a woman is fully clothed? I really can't grasp () the logistics involved.
Unless he was just joshing between friends and didn't mean it literally.
You never saw the Crocodile Dundee film?
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Because media told you and you believe it.
Yes, it does seem that the 'you' applied to Richdog- and yes, it was insulting his intelligence and not merely voicing a different opinion.

I just do not know what is going on here- your anger seems to be boiling over, be it about Trump, or what women wear or how long their hair is- and as I said yesterday, because I find this a bit tragic- I am logging off (as this is no longer about a difference of opinion- which is totally fine and always will be. Last thing I want to do with my life at the mo). A pity.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

He doesnt deserve the sh*t you guys are putting him through !

Yes, obviously many millions of people are against him, hes not looking to be
politically correct and suck up to bad guys like his predecessor did,

And the clintons havent been prove to take financial benefit for there foundation through there political connections ?

Give the guy a break and let him prove us what hes really worth.

He was elected in a democratic way, all of your complaints are challenging that exact democratic process !
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Old 08.03.2017, 22:04
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He was elected in a democratic way, all of your complaints are challenging that exact democratic process !
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He doesnt deserve the sh*t you guys are putting him through !

Yes, obviously many millions of people are against him, hes not looking to be
politically correct and suck up to bad guys like his predecessor did,

And the clintons havent been prove to take financial benefit for there foundation through there political connections ?

Give the guy a break and let him prove us what hes really worth.

He was elected in a democratic way, all of your complaints are challenging that exact democratic process !
Have you thought about investing in a spelling and grammar checker?

How does the allegation that the Clinton family profit from their Foundation excuse Trump regularly tweeting blatant lies? What is the logical link?

The leader of the free world should be setting an example of honesty and integrity!

He should be trying to do better than his predecessors, not use them as an excuse to enter a spiral of decline?
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He was elected in a democratic way, all of your complaints are challenging that exact democratic process !


Which election results did you read???
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The message from the original poster implied we should be more worried about the CIA than about Trump.

My reply was that Trump now owns the CIA implying he is still top of the worry list.

I do not see the relevance of your reply; or do you imagine the CIA quietly destroyed their hacking tools when Trump was voted in

I do not see any point in worrying about what happened in the past; whatever happened, happened!

And why is it you think that Trump now owns the CIA?

JFK wasn't so naive, but Alan Dulles still managed to have him killed.
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Oh man, I hope Melissa McCarthy does this impression.
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He doesnt deserve the sh*t you guys are putting him through !
You're a Brit in Zurich telling a bunch of assorted ex-pats in Switzerland that we're putting the POTUS through sh*t? Really?

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Yes, it does seem that the 'you' applied to Richdog- and yes, it was insulting his intelligence and not merely voicing a different opinion.

I just do not know what is going on here- your anger seems to be boiling over, be it about Trump, or what women wear or how long their hair is...
Why do you keep banging on people being angry when all they do is state their own personal preferences? It is humorous. The debate is not about me so why drag me in it. Read my posts so you understand my point: media deliver (gladly) what people look for.

Your outrage over other people's personal taste or pov is illogical. Calling them names just because they have different preferences, "daft" you said, right?, turns the talk to people and not the argument itself. We can do better than that.

You said you were leaving a few times these days. It might help to get a perspective and tolerance. Let's keep the climate smart, inquisitive, curious. The raised fingers of moral police or calling people names won't do much. There is no need for drama, falling out with friends...family, bonds.

Let's get back to DT. Let's leave the outrage to people with no arguments.
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He was elected in a democratic way, all of your complaints are challenging that exact democratic process !
The think is though that he himself doubts that... You need to catch up on your reading here is a start....
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Read my posts so you understand my point: media deliver (gladly) what people look for.
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“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
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“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda
That is totally your right to disagree.

My right is to think - we make ourselves vulnerable to manipulation and even agree to it, heck it is the customer who has run the scene for good. If we lower the bar of independent thinking and standards for decades (edu, political discourse, academia...let's have this "everyone's a winner" ethics right up till Trump wins, ha!), shoo oponents, high quality data is unwanted. People are victims of themselves. Media just feed on it, any business does. There is a whole science of why people believe in untruth. Voluntarily. Trump has used it to win, as well. But I do not think he is, in general, pro-pc advocate. Or as disingenuous as SJW or other undemocratic movement.
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