Will Trump be a Good President? - Page 298

robBob · #**5941** 18.03.2017, 11:21

Will Germany be allowed to stay in the EU?

http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-...e-of-eu-2017-3

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marton · #**5942** 18.03.2017, 12:32

	Quote:	Mark75
	Most likely he's right. However not just under Obama but also under Bush and Clinton as this is not a problem related to a single president but rather an institutional problem.

So Bush and Clinton ordered surveillance on themselves! Who knew?

I have a nice line in tin foil hats at very reasonable prices

marton · #**5943** 18.03.2017, 12:49

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	White House press secretary Sean Spicer flatly denied Friday that the White House apologized to the British government after citing an uncorroborated Fox News report to allege that a UK intelligence agency spied on President Donald Trump at the behest of former President Barack Obama.

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	Trump Offers No Apology for Claim on British Spying Livid British officials adamantly denied the allegation and secured promises from senior White House officials never to repeat it. But a defiant Mr. Trump refused to back down, making clear that the White House had nothing to retract or apologize for because his spokesman had simply repeated an assertion made by a Fox News commentator. Fox itself later disavowed the report.

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So "special relationship" going down the tubes because a rabble-rouser cannot back down.
When will Maggie May stand up for her country or will she continue to hide her brown nose in the corner?

Meanwhile for swamp drainers

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	Former Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort wanted for questioning in Ukraine corruption case Manafort has not been charged with a crime. Prosecutors want him to testify, Ukraine's prosecutor for special investigations Serhiy Gorbatyuk said. Manafort currently faces an FBI investigation over millions of dollars' worth of payments he allegedly received while working for Yanukovych. Manafort has denied those claims.

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Blueangel · #**5944** 18.03.2017, 13:05

	Quote:	marton
	So "special relationship" going down the tubes because a rabble-rouser cannot back down. When will Maggie May stand up for her country or will she continue to hide her brown nose in the corner?

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	Ed Miliband‏Verified account @Ed_Miliband Hearing that Trump state visit stop-off at GCHQ Cheltenham might have to be rearranged....

https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/stat...16182603382784

marton · #**5945** 18.03.2017, 13:42

	Quote:	marton
	Source Source So "special relationship" going down the tubes because a rabble-rouser cannot back down. When will Maggie May stand up for her country or will she continue to hide her brown nose in the corner? Meanwhile for swamp drainers Source

Found the clip where fox news comprehensively denied the Neapolitano claim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQI79DWlZFg

MusicChick · #**5946** 18.03.2017, 14:09

	Quote:	robBob
	Will Germany be allowed to stay in the EU? http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-...e-of-eu-2017-3 Attachment 123585

Lol. The "DT unnecessarily angers" is biased. The whole article is, as majority of reports, delivering a very biased pov. They have their right to do so, maybe they think readers do not make up their own mind and so they "must" do it. I do not think DT nor the US is obliged to be Merkel's bitch. She never was, by any means, DT's nor US's buddy. She is not a friend to most of the Germans, her own country she represents. DT knows.

Media playing off the "boo, DT, how dare you anger a Teuton" scandalist, righteous and reprimanding shinenigan, he was not delivering a message to her at all. He was delivering a message to the EU. And who ever picks up the slack after Merkel.

kriss kross · #**5947** 18.03.2017, 14:30

	Quote:	marton
	Looking at the video Merkel was relaxed and happy while Donald was more like a toddler being forced to eat Brussels sprouts

Totally. Especially the part where Merkel asked him for a handshake and he just completely ignored her

marton · #**5948** 18.03.2017, 14:33

	Quote:	MusicChick
	Lol. The "DT unnecessarily angers" is biased. The whole article is, as majority of reports, delivering a very biased pov. They have their right to do so, maybe they think readers do not make up their own mind and so they "must" do it. I do not think DT nor the US is obliged to be Merkel's bitch. She never was, by any means, DT's nor US's buddy. She is not a friend to most of the Germans, her own country she represents. DT knows. Media playing off the "boo, DT, how dare you anger a Teuton" scandalist, righteous and reprimanding shinenigan, he was not delivering a message to her at all. He was delivering a message to the EU. And who ever picks up the slack after Merkel.

True, but DT stuck his knife into Germany after Merkel left, see today's tweets!

#**5949** 18.03.2017, 14:34

So glad you agree KK. MC, who is talking about DT being Merkel's bitch?

He behaved like a spoilt toddler with her- sulking, ignoring her and refusing to shake hands- making such a fool of himself and proving once again he is no Statesman.

As for his face when the Irish President spoke about the Irish bing immigrants- it was despicable- you could see him boiling with rage. Honestly, he does not need us or the world Press to make the point- he makes it so well himself. Pathetic.

kriss kross · #**5950** 18.03.2017, 14:40

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	Pathetic.

The irony is too much for me.

I'm signing off now, time to leave you to it

Blueangel · #**5951** 18.03.2017, 14:44

	Quote:	marton
	True, but DT stuck his knife into Germany after Merkel left, see today's tweets!

No mention of Enda Kenney though post the visit.

#**5952** 18.03.2017, 14:48

	Quote:	MusicChick
	Media playing off the "boo, DT, how dare you anger a Teuton" scandalist, righteous and reprimanding shenanigan, he was not delivering a message to her at all. He was delivering a message to the EU. And who ever picks up the slack after Merkel.

Yeah, but there are better and more effective ways of delivering a message than acting like a dick.

Don't forget he pissed off the Brits this week with his rumour-mongering about GCHQ, and the Brits are supposed to have this mythical "special relationship".

I don't think you are correct about the media's take on it, either. Nowhere is it even close to your interpretation of it.

It shows more that he's pissed off at Germany and can't really do anything about it so just acts like a big dribbling sulk instead.

#**5953** 18.03.2017, 15:34

Sorry not sorry, but DT does not know how to behave.

But once again.....paying too much attention to the buffoon. Pay more attention to what's behind the curtain.

marton · #**5954** 18.03.2017, 15:49

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	Sorry not sorry, but DT does not know how to behave. But once again.....paying too much attention to the buffoon. Pay more attention to what's behind the curtain.

The Emperor has no clothes!

marton · #**5955** 18.03.2017, 16:17

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	The Trump administration took an unusual step on Friday in its efforts to defang the U.S. financial consumer watchdog created after the banking crisis, with the executive branch of the federal government telling a court that one of its own agencies is violating the U.S. Constitution. The Justice Department filed a brief opposing the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's appeal of a ruling that its single-director structure does not hew to the constitution. The decision that the bureau appealed also said the president should have the power to fire the agency's head at will. Under the 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform law that created the CFPB to protect individuals against fraud in lending, the president can only fire the agency director for cause.

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Blueangel · #**5956** 18.03.2017, 16:31

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	Don't forget he pissed off the Brits this week with his rumour-mongering about GCHQ, and the Brits are supposed to have this mythical "special relationship".

Don't know about pissed off as such. The entire accusation is laughable. Let me put it this way... My cousin has worked for GCHQ at Cheltenham for over 30yrs. For 20 of those, she's been trying to find out our great uncle's war record, and apparently, she now knows approx.20% of it. Yet, Judge Andrew Napolitano says he has three sources telling him about this wiretap?!!!

MusicChick · #**5957** 18.03.2017, 16:55

I actually do not think his behavior was surprising at all, he is very consistent: tired of others putting on this fake, pseudo altruistic, disingenuous front, that will cost a lot of others loads of cash and irreversible damage. I think it takes a business guy to actually be so...matter of fact about the most important negotiations. People, of course, can misread it as immaturity or lack of finesse, or whatever. His priority is not to please Merkel with decorum or flattering smalltalk, diplomatic avoidance wrapped up in palatable, post-modern pc . He was never one to prioritize that.

#**5958** 18.03.2017, 17:04

	Quote:	MusicChick
	His priority is not to please Merkel with decorum or flattering smalltalk, diplomatic avoidance wrapped up in palatable, post-modern pc .

There is nothing "post-modern pc" about diplomacy and plain good manners.

The man's a dick. He is utterly unsuitable for the role of head of state.

#**5959** 18.03.2017, 17:16

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	There is nothing "post-modern pc" about diplomacy and plain good manners. The man's a dick. He is utterly unsuitable for the role of head of state.

This. A jerk is a jerk is a jerk. Or as we say in Pittsburgh, a jagoff.

BTW, decent business people also understand manners.

kriss kross · #**5960** 18.03.2017, 17:25

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	The man's a dick. He is utterly unsuitable for the role of head of state.

Yeah because most politicians aren't dicks, they're genuinely nice people!

Trump knows he's a dick and he couldn't care less. That's part of the appeal - he simply does not care who he offends, he cares about getting the job done.