View Poll Results: Will Trump be a good President? |
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20.03.2017, 19:26
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Perhaps when the know-it-all snobs ('liberals' ) stop looking down their noses at them for daring to form their own opinions.
Or maybe in eight years time  | | | | | This I find tiresome. The perception that left leaning folk are know it all snobs, when in fact, there are regular people all along the spectrum, and if what Trump has filled his administration with is any clue, snobs and elitists crowd both ends.
The right hasn't any more claim to regular folk than does the left. And the right exerts just as much pressure in telling people what and how to think.
So bored.
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20.03.2017, 19:34
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | This I find tiresome. The perception that left leaning folk are know it all snobs, when in fact, there are regular people all along the spectrum, and if what Trump has filled his administration with is any clue, snobs and elitists crowd both ends. | | | | | What I find tiresome is that, being British, the exact opposite is the perception. Labour were perceived to be the party of the working class and Conservatives the party of landed gentry. Funny how you have to switch it all around depending on which nationality you're talking to. | This user would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post: | | 
20.03.2017, 19:40
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | An idea might inspire some people to be violent. Should we blame the idea or the people who take it so far? It 'can'..does not mean we gotta ban a perfectly ok idea just because some people process it for the sake of their own interests. Loads of folks who call themselves left, justify violence and outrage by 'having ideas'. For example, that Trump is evil. | | | | | Trump is probably not evil. He's shallow, ill prepared, self absorbed. He relies on people who seem to care little about the American people - Bannon, Miller, Price and Sessions, probably Ryan. Listening to Price talk about health care did give me a touch of outrage. I said Trump was a jerk and I stand by it. A jerk is not necessarily evil.
And you know what - what is wrong with outrage when it's channeled into productive activism.
Do I have to tiptoe around now and be nice about Trump? Only if he becomes a member of EF, i think. Then maybe. Or I would just ignore him. But it's difficult to ignore the US right now because I know many people who are seriously worried about their futures - people in education, elderly people, people in health care, in research and chronically ill folks.
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20.03.2017, 20:16
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | That word really winds you up eh?  | | | | | I thought it needed trotting out again. It's been a while.
The 'winning' fanfare seems to have died a death, too. Shame really. Never mind - Maybe its a reflection of the administration.
Can you come up with some new ranty words for us? | The following 3 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
20.03.2017, 21:03
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Perhaps when the know-it-all snobs ('liberals' ) stop looking down their noses at them for daring to form their own opinions.
Or maybe in eight years time  | | | | | Quite the contrary, I don't know it all, far from it. For the things I don't know, I rely on experts. I want to be led by someone more intelligent than myself, I want the smartest, most qualified people making the decisions, not the ones who merely "tell it like is" or who's main qualification is trust fund beneficiary turned reality tv host.
I don't blame Americans for voting Trump. Public education has been under attack for decades, the average American doesn't earn enough money or have enough vacation time to expose themselves to other cultures and other ways of doing things, and they live in a little bubble in which their greatness compared to rest of the world is continually piped into their ears and when the facade of said greatness has a few cracks, along comes someone who tells them he'll make it all better, albeit without any concrete plans, experience, or basically any qualifications aside from showmanship.
The few Europeans on the other hand who support Trump, possess an exceptional degree of stupidity that I can't fathom or excuse. They know little of actually living in the US, they benefit on a daily basis from a system that provides them with a good education, health care system, public transportation, working conditions, salaries, the very systems that Trump wants to dismantle or resists establishing in the US. If you like the idea of the US under Trump and conservatives so much, I suggest you make it a point to stick to two weeks vacation (not taken consecutively, of course) and why not avoid using your health insurance if you have a pre-existing condition. That way you can really earn the right to use the Trump lingo instead of just being another American flag waving wannabe.
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20.03.2017, 21:12
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | the average American doesn't earn enough money or have enough vacation time to expose themselves to other cultures and other ways of doing things, and they live in a little bubble in which their greatness compared to rest of the world is continually piped into their ears and when the facade of said greatness has a few cracks, along comes someone who tells them he'll make it all better, albeit without any concrete plans, experience, or basically any qualifications aside from showmanship. | | | | | These days, you can go on Youtube and watch vlogs of people doing "Life in $country" in oh-so-many episodes where everything from health-insurance, education, fines, prisons, taxes, food, cosmetics, weather, alcohol, guns, holidays to stuff you can get out from between your teeth with dental floss is described in epic detail.
Doesn't change the fact, of course that only a minority of people in the US have a passport (and the financial means to travel).
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20.03.2017, 21:25
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He He. At least he get's rid of all those Mexicans.
Apparently around 6 million Mexicans at risk of going home.
Now the Mexican government is not so defiant anymore about who pays for the wall. Apparently those illegal Mexicans send a few billion dollars home every year.
So that will cost the Mexican economy big time.Maybe they should just pay for the wall?
Gawd, it's a laugh a minute.
Maybe the Mexicans "colluded " with the Clinton campaign to get her elected.Maybe they should investigate that.At the moment USA politics is even funnier than African politics.And I thought that was bad.Or is it all just "fake" news.Maybe there really is a "matrix"? | 
20.03.2017, 21:29
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | This I find tiresome. The perception that left leaning folk are know it all snobs, when in fact, there are regular people all along the spectrum, and if what Trump has filled his administration with is any clue, snobs and elitists crowd both ends.
The right hasn't any more claim to regular folk than does the left. And the right exerts just as much pressure in telling people what and how to think.
So bored. | | | | | Indeed you do not have to be left or liberal to identify Trump as a serial liar.
I doubt Comey from the FBI or Rogers from NSA would describe themselves as left leaning folk; maybe not, who knows?
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20.03.2017, 21:48
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | They probably didn't even bother to vote those unwashed slobs!
I'll bet it was them crafty Ruskies what rigged the election! | | | | | You are changing sides?
Either deliberately or due to lack of knowledge?
These days the "great unwashed" come from the left wing; hippies, revolutionaries, radicals, &&&.
Whereas people from the right believe in "maintaining standards" | 
20.03.2017, 21:50
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Attachment 123709
He He. At least he get's rid of all those Mexicans.
Apparently around 6 million Mexicans at risk of going home.
Now the Mexican government is not so defiant anymore about who pays for the wall. Apparently those illegal Mexicans send a few billion dollars home every year.
So that will cost the Mexican economy big time.Maybe they should just pay for the wall?
Gawd, it's a laugh a minute.
Maybe the Mexicans "colluded " with the Clinton campaign to get her elected.Maybe they should investigate that.At the moment USA politics is even funnier than African politics.And I thought that was bad.Or is it all just "fake" news.Maybe there really is a "matrix"?  | | | | | Paying for the Wall will stop the US sending illegal Mexicans home?
Do you have a reputable source for this theory?
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20.03.2017, 21:54
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Attachment 123709
He He. At least he get's rid of all those Mexicans.
Apparently around 6 million Mexicans at risk of going home.
Now the Mexican government is not so defiant anymore about who pays for the wall. Apparently those illegal Mexicans send a few billion dollars home every year.
So that will cost the Mexican economy big time.Maybe they should just pay for the wall?
Gawd, it's a laugh a minute.
Maybe the Mexicans "colluded " with the Clinton campaign to get her elected.Maybe they should investigate that.At the moment USA politics is even funnier than African politics.And I thought that was bad.Or is it all just "fake" news.Maybe there really is a "matrix"?  | | | | | Maybe the Mexicans also want to go home but they need their US wages?
ET was unemployed so no valid comparison | 
20.03.2017, 22:01
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Fantasy land | Quote: |  | | | US authorities have secretly required airlines from 13 nations to forbid passengers from carrying any electronic or electrical device larger than a cellphone.
The new edict was distributed in an email described as confidential from the US transportation safety administration (TSA) on Monday.
The requirement forbids passengers from bringing laptops, iPads, Kindles and even cameras larger than mobile phones into the cabin. All such devices must be checked. | | | | | Source
Anybody planning to visit the US as a tourist in the current climate is nuts | This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Paying for the Wall will stop the US sending illegal Mexicans home?
Do you have a reputable source for this theory? | | | | | AAH.So we get to the reputable sources again do we?
I sincerely hope you don't mean CNN and BBC.
Biggest load of shyte ever.Not reputable.
It was just a joke by the way.i don't think that aspect came up yet.
But Mexico should rather seek better relations with the USA I would say. | 
20.03.2017, 22:03
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | AAH.So we get to the reputable sources again do we?
I sincerely hope you don't mean CNN and BBC.
Biggest load of shyte ever.Not reputable.
It was just a joke by the way.i don't think that aspect came up yet.
But Mexico should rather seek better relations with the USA I would say.  | | | | | If you cannot offer reputable sources then keep quiet | 
20.03.2017, 22:05
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Indeed you do not have to be left or liberal to identify Trump as a serial liar. | | | | | Yeah, I felt that Hillary Clinton was a much more honest and trustworthy candidate | 
20.03.2017, 22:08
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, I felt that Hillary Clinton was a much more honest and trustworthy candidate  | | | | | So the best you can offer is a change of topic without providing any sort of credible support for your earlier posts.
In case you missed the news Hillary was not elected | 
20.03.2017, 22:11
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | If you cannot offer reputable sources then keep quiet  | | | | | Who are your reputable sources?pray tell.Go on. Let all have a laugh.
Maybe RT?They seem to give a much more balanced opinion on USA
matters.
On Russian matters they are slightly biased.But CNN and BBC really take the cake.CNN especially should have their broadcasting license revoked.What a load of biased shyte.My gawd.It's unbelievable. | 
20.03.2017, 22:21
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Who are your reputable sources?pray tell.Go on. Let all have a laugh.
Maybe RT?They seem to give a much more balanced opinion on USA
matters.
On Russian matters they are slightly biased.But CNN and BBC really take the cake.CNN especially should have their broadcasting license revoked.What a load of biased shyte.My gawd.It's unbelievable.  | | | | | OK, so you do not have even one single reputable source for your doubtful claims.
No surprise!
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20.03.2017, 23:05
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, I felt that Hillary Clinton was a much more honest and trustworthy candidate  | | | | | Learn to opine and orate in selfrighteous, authoritarian voice, and it does not matter what you say - success guaranteed. I think one of the stuff that is quite like-able about Trump is that he doesn't give a damn. And when he does, he overdoes the schtick so much it is entertaining. I can't picture him hiding and ruminating in the woods on solitary walks after he looses elections. I can imagine him making funny expressive faces.
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20.03.2017, 23:14
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Learn to opine and orate in selfrighteous, authoritarian voice, and it does not matter what you say - success guaranteed. I think one of the stuff that is quite like-able about Trump is that he doesn't give a damn. And when he does, he overdoes the schtick so much it is entertaining. I can't picture him hiding and ruminating in the woods on solitary walks after he looses elections. I can imagine him making funny expressive faces. | | | | | "I can imagine him making funny expressive faces." No, au contraire!
He would be seeking revenge.
Do you want a list of people who were fired or excluded from new jobs since his inauguration because he deemed they criticised him during his campaign?
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