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Old 21.03.2017, 17:04
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When people say that somebody is an authority on an issue because he went through all the different schools, it is not me who exaggerates. I reminded those who also have other opinions that there is space for all. In fact it is opposite of "gaslighting" as you put it, in exaggeration.
Who said he was an authority? Certainly not me:

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Given the rest of the educational history I would say it contributed to a balanced view of academia more than pushed him into "snobby elitism". Was I the only one that noticed the "rural public schools" and "community college" in his list?

It speaks volumes about you and your attitudes to education if you only picked up on the "exclusive boarding school".
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Entitlement, pc, quotas and killing opposing povs, squishing conflict by violence and prescribed rhetorics, instead of learning how to tolerate ambiguity and dissonance (creating oppressive "safe spaces" where people only accept one opinion) in fact, destroys the schools these days and quality education.
I don't know which thread you are reading to drum up all that outrage but it's certainly not this one.

Who is "entitled"? Who is "killing opposing povs"?

"Tolerate ambiguity"? How is that even relevant? Ambiguity is ambiguity. If it misleads someone then why should it be tolerated? If it's ambiguous because you can't decide on your opinions then that's your own issue.

This thread would be a lot more constructive without all the emotive buzzword bollocks which makes little sense other than to push some imaginary agenda.

Suddenly its clear why the Trump campaign held such appeal...
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Old 21.03.2017, 17:08
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Lol...I honesly prefer debating over Principia than Trump, but let's keep the noise around Principia down, curteously, he might not be so excited about that.

So - news on Trump?
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Lol...I honesly prefer debating over Principia than Trump, but let's keep the noise around Principia down, curteously, he might not be so excited about that.

So - news on Trump?
Who's killing the conversation now?
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So - news on Trump?
Same old same old.

Making America great again while his haters are getting mad
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Old 21.03.2017, 17:25
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Who's killing the conversation now?
Mods sometimes do that. Singling out posters instead of debating ideas is not well looked upon.

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is not exactly a discussion killer. I'd say - an invitation.
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Same old same old.

Making America great again while his haters are getting mad
You mean "outraged" dammit!
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Old 21.03.2017, 17:27
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Same old same old.

Making America great again while his haters are getting mad
They should not, Hillary said she's coming out of the woods!
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Old 21.03.2017, 17:41
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Christ almighty, is it really that hard to sustain a basic argument without making shit up? You wrote something to the effect of "those bloody angry and uneducated deplorables" to which I responded "that's basically the gist of it" followed by a whole bunch of other words you clearly missed.

We can agree to disagree as to how angry Trump voters are but his primary voting base is compromised primarily of white males without higher education. That's undeniable, if you want to call it elitism or snobbery, feel free. I'm not particularly educated, but unlike a great deal of Trump supporters, I trust professionals and scholars when it comes to making decisions in their fields of expertise, I don't demonize them or call them "elites" any more than I would a highly trained doctor or pilot.
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When people say that somebody is an authority on an issue because he went through all the different schools, it is not me who exaggerates. I reminded those who also have other opinions that there is space for all. In fact it is opposite of "gaslighting" as you put it, in exaggeration.

Entitlement, pc, quotas and killing opposing povs, squishing conflict by violence and prescribed rhetorics, instead of learning how to tolerate ambiguity and dissonance (creating oppressive "safe spaces" where people only accept one opinion) in fact, destroys the schools these days and quality education.
An "authority"? Are you kidding? I said no such thing, I said my school experience was broad, which it arguably was as most people probably don't attend 7-8 different schools and educational systems. I would never claim any sort of authority. I was able to experience firsthand what worked and didn't work for me and I can say that my daughter's free education here in Switzerland thus far compares favorably to an expensive private school education in the US.
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Mods sometimes do that. Singling out posters instead of debating ideas is not well looked upon.
But it's ok for you to do exactly that, right? How else can you explain your "gaslighting" post PD quotes above?
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Same old same old.

Making America great again while his haters are getting mad
Damn right I am mad, I spent 2.5 hours in a traffic gridlock nightmare this morning, because His Orangeness went to the Capitol to tell the lawmakers of his own party (GOP) that he would go after them if they did not vote yes on his health care bill.

Link to the Post article here.

“I’m gonna come after you, but I know I won’t have to, because I know you’ll vote ‘yes,’ ” Trump said, according to several Republican lawmakers who attended the meeting. “Honestly, a loss is not acceptable, folks.”

Aside from that, really not much additional news: FBI investigation is still ongoing, politically well-connected Russian businesspeople are still funding Trump's businesses, official state meetings are still held at Trump's hotels, and so forth.
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Old 21.03.2017, 18:03
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No.

Most telling for me is that Principia has seen pretty much every level and type of education on offer in the US, and still prefers the Swiss system.
Hahah...follow the thread, sweethearts. And tone down your "gaslighting".

JW's comment was my reason for saying, people might have gone through schools, but it gives them right to one pov, just like anyone else. I was not singling out anybody, I was inviting other opinions as equally valid. That is, a pretty democratic move.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

When we are at democracy -

Do people view Trump as a defender of democracy, or anti-Trump movement as defenders of democracy?
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Christ almighty, is it really that hard to sustain a basic argument without making shit up? You wrote something to the effect of "those bloody angry and uneducated deplorables" to which I responded "that's basically the gist of it" followed by a whole bunch of other words you clearly missed
Talking about missing words you forgot to add the other part of my post where I wrote ''When will those plebs realize that we know what’s best for them?''

But if you were only replying to the first sentence and not the second then I stand corrected.

And we can agree that they knew who the best candidate for them was and they voted in their best interests
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When we are at democracy -

Do people view Trump as a defender of democracy, or anti-Trump movement as defenders of democracy?
Depends. If you like trump he's the defender. If you don't he's a fascist authoritarian.
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Damn right I am mad, I spent 2.5 hours in a traffic gridlock nightmare this morning, because His Orangeness went to the Capitol to tell the lawmakers of his own party (GOP) that he would go after them if they did not vote yes on his health care bill.

Link to the Post article here.

“I’m gonna come after you, but I know I won’t have to, because I know you’ll vote ‘yes,’ ” Trump said, according to several Republican lawmakers who attended the meeting. “Honestly, a loss is not acceptable, folks.”

Aside from that, really not much additional news: FBI investigation is still ongoing, politically well-connected Russian businesspeople are still funding Trump's businesses, official state meetings are still held at Trump's hotels, and so forth.

Ha ha ha. I was reading that they'll have to scale it back so the moderate Reps will support it. And then it will add to the deficit or whatever, so it's sort of a steaming pile of excrement. And if the Reps can't get this through, they will have a hard time getting anything done because constituents are starting to complain and the congress folk are worried about re election.

I'd be worried about my constituents more than the Orange one.

And then Diane Feinstein made some mysterious comment about Trump leaving...she's on the judiciary committee....so who knows?
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When we are at democracy -

Do people view Trump as a defender of democracy...
That depends on a number of ongoing investigations. And seeing as you're asking that question on Day 61...
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Depends. If you like trump he's the defender. If you don't he's a fascist authoritarian.
Well, obviously. I am interested more in the actual reasoning.
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Well, obviously. I am interested more in the actual reasoning.
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Suddenly its clear why the Trump campaign held such appeal...
It's never too late to jump aboard the Trump Train!
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