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Sigh.......

Question; Where did I write the mainstream media was nice to him?
Answer; Never, so do put words in my mouth

Think about the following ""I don't care what the newspapers say about me as long as they spell my name right."
You are very measured and thoughtful on your replies, but it is easy to see that you are critical of Trump and his followers, you are just trying to bullet proof your points.

The bittersweet truth is that Trump won, Brexit won aswell, and now i am just waiting for Le Pen to win and complete the unholy trinity...hopefully they will be able to alleviate the toxic ideology of the extreme left(even tho they are a minority, they managed to get ahold of high positions in the mainstream media... i am quite frankly just expecting them to die out and be replaced by more centered and more fair individuals).

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Lots of tweets around that some Democrats believe Trump's wiretap tweets are sufficient grounds for impeachment due to criminal defamation.

Sounds a bit thin to me and criminal defamation is not well defined in US law!
Of course the Democrats could try; anyway the history is in the US the majority of impeachment investigations have failed.
Would be antidemocratic to impeach the president for being vocal against possible coalition between a government agency and a political party during a presidential race..... not to mention all this "Russia-Trump" nonsense that the left keeps vomiting...... who is being investigated for that?

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not to mention all this "Russia-Trump" nonsense that the left keeps vomiting.


Just a small sample (Reuters, Washington Post, NPR, Time) but representative. Happy reading!

P.S. I would hardly call the FBI Director, James Comey and the head of the National Security Agency, Mike Rogers, "left".

Russian elite invested nearly $100 million in Trump buildings

President Trump faces his hardest truth: He was wrong

FBI Director Confirms Investigation Into Trump-Russia Links

Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia
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Just a small sample (Reuters, Washington Post, NPR, Time) but representative. Happy reading!

P.S. I would hardly call the FBI Director, James Comey and the head of the National Security Agency, Mike Rogers, "left".

Russian elite invested nearly $100 million in Trump buildings

President Trump faces his hardest truth: He was wrong

FBI Director Confirms Investigation Into Trump-Russia Links

Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia
You mean friendly neighbour James Comey i mean he really did a lazy play on the Email scandals.. i just wonder what Hillary did with all that Saudi Money.
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You are very measured and thoughtful on your replies, but it is easy to see that you are critical of Trump and his followers, you are just trying to bullet proof your points.

The bittersweet truth is that Trump won, Brexit won aswell, and now i am just waiting for Le Pen to win and complete the unholy trinity...hopefully they will be able to alleviate the toxic ideology of the extreme left(even tho they are a minority, they managed to get ahold of high positions in the mainstream media... i am quite frankly just expecting them to die out and be replaced by more centered and more fair individuals).



Would be antidemocratic to impeach the president for being vocal against possible coalition between a government agency and a political party during a presidential race..... not to mention all this "Russia-Trump" nonsense that the left keeps vomiting.
"waiting for Le Pen" I am sure she will have as much success as Wilder!

"the left keeps vomiting" The FBI & NSA are liberals, who knew?

"against possible coalition between a government agency..." No he did not, he simply accused Obama of a specific crime.
Trump never used the word coalition and did not mention any Govt. agency and did not mention a political party; he accused Obama directly.
Trumps lies are serious enough without you adding more lies to the mess!
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Old 22.03.2017, 01:05
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You mean friendly neighbour James Comey i mean he really did a lazy play on the Email scandals.. i just wonder what Hillary did with all that Saudi Money.
You agree with the points that BokerTov made since you have offered no counter argument.
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Old 22.03.2017, 01:28
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You agree with the points that BokerTov made since you have offered no counter argument.
I sense wishful thinking.
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"waiting for Le Pen" I am sure she will have as much success as Wilder!

"the left keeps vomiting" The FBI & NSA are liberals, who knew?

"against possible coalition between a government agency..." No he did not, he simply accused Obama of a specific crime.
Trump never used the word coalition and did not mention any Govt. agency and did not mention a political party; he accused Obama directly.
Trumps lies are serious enough without you adding more lies to the mess!
I have not heard once anyone from the FBI or the NSA say that Donald Trump is a puppet of Putin........ but i did hear it from the left(mainstream media).
What was that specific crime? because "wiretap" with quotation marks can be a plethora of different methods to monitor someone. And if Obama really did that in order to help Hillary Clinton then he was using millions of dollars of tax payers money to abuse the privacy of a person who she happens to run against. Do you understand how serious that accusation is?

And since you took the accusations that were made against Le Pen seriously(even tho there is a considerable amount of reasons not to) i am surprised that you do not consider the accusation of the current POTUS as valid(what i mean by this is, that you need to take into consideration the possible resources he might have).

In any case goodnight!
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I have not heard once anyone from the FBI or the NSA say that Donald Trump is a puppet of Putin........

"wiretap". Do you understand how serious that accusation is?
Zapping your reply to answer the two points above:

1. Regarding your first point - you are not going to hear that either, at least not until the investigation is concluded. Comey did talk about "counterintelligence" with respect to Trump & Co, which, in FBI-speak, is "busting the spies/bad guys".

2. The FBI did say in no uncertain terms there is absolutely no evidence at all of any wiretapping of Donald Trump & Co. by former President Obama, or Hilary, or "the left", or the Spaghetti Monster. I think President Trump making this unfounded accusation (e.g. blatant lie) speaks volumes about him.

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So now Trump is celebrating that Fox news said only 43 percent of voters approved of the job the president was doing


Big burst of Trump tweets this morning; seems to be panicking
Lol, so now he is "panicking", i like it, build yourself up for the impending dissapointment.....

Btw i prefer balance, being a nationalist to the point of believing that other nationalities are inferior, is obviously a very ignorant and entitled stancw to take.
But being a anti-nationalist to me just seems self loathing and hypocritical.
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I sensed alternative facts in etefan's replies



Zapping your reply to answer the two points above:

1. Regarding your first point - you are not going to hear that either, at least not until the investigation is concluded. Comey did talk about "counterintelligence" with respect to Trump & Co, which, in FBI-speak, is "busting the spies/bad guys".

2. The FBI did say in no uncertain terms there is absolutely no evidence at all of any wiretapping of Donald Trump & Co. by former President Obama, or Hilary, or "the left", or the Spaghetti Monster. I think President Trump making this unfounded accusation (e.g. blatant lie) speaks volumes about him.

Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!
I believe i read that their answer to Trump was "No president can order a wiretap".......that IS uncertain terms.

I just hope that they are able to find evidence of spaghetti monster interference in favor of Trump, and i hope they are able to restore the cellphones that Hillary smashed with that hammer.
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Old 22.03.2017, 08:54
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...the extreme left(even tho they are a minority, they managed to get ahold of high positions in the mainstream media...
Fancy naming more than a couple? I am wondering what you call "extreme left wing"

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The bittersweet truth is that Trump won, ....
Just to remind you that Trump LOST the popular vote and only won because of the wierd US electoral system
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Fancy naming more than a couple? I am wondering what you call "extreme left wing"


Just to remind you that Trump LOST the popular vote and only won because of the wierd US electoral system


Name me one CNN pundit who is not a race-baiter... Name me one who is openly against antifa...


Not only do they control the Mainstream media at the moment, but they are beginning to infiltrate the videogame industry for example look at Manveer Heir who is a racist and an apologist for the left.


I previously thought that Van Jones was one of the more leftist ones.... but atleast he invites alternative ideas without interrupting... and his street interview by an info wars Surrogate was really funny.... BTW he is so far the only CNN pundit who has, atleast reluctantly, complimented some of Trumps actions.


It is a shame that Comey once again decides to save Hillary, Comey should resign soon... the faster we can prosecute Hillary the better.
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What was that specific crime? because "wiretap" with quotation marks can be a plethora of different methods to monitor someone. And if Obama really did that in order to help Hillary Clinton then he was using millions of dollars of tax payers money to abuse the privacy of a person who she happens to run against. Do you understand how serious that accusation is?
The entire point is that everyone understands how serious an accusation that is! It doesn't matter who you believe, everyone had a WTF?!! moment when that allegation was made.

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But being a anti-nationalist to me just seems self loathing and hypocritical.
That all depends on what the nation's hierarchy are doing with their power.

People are people the World over, and many people are more catholic (in the non-religious sense of the word) in their approach. If people are being unduly attacked when they just want to be left in peace, we defend them. If an ally is being unduly attacked by an agressor, we defend them. But what about when our nation is unduly attacking an ally or neighbour? What then?

You see, when Trump made the allegation that Obama got GCHQ to spy on him, that was an attack on Obama and on the UK. It was one of those gobsmacking moments of misguided, sheer audacity against one of America's greatest allies. Before that point, I was prepared to give Trump a chance to grow into the role. I actually felt sorry for Trump that he was finding people close to the administration, whom he had placed his trust in, had misled him and/or Pence. That's not a good feeling in any realm of business or government. But once he made the allegation about GCHQ, the gloves were off as far as I'm concerned. He could think it, he could investigate it, but to publically broadcast it without one iota of solid, irrefutable evidence... Nah! Not happening!


There's a spin the bottle randomness to Trump's thinking that is very unsettling.
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I believe i read that their answer to Trump was "No president can order a wiretap".......that IS uncertain terms.

I just hope that they are able to find evidence of spaghetti monster interference in favor of Trump, and i hope they are able to restore the cellphones that Hillary smashed with that hammer.
Why do you waste our time with half stories?
You wrote *I believe i read that their answer to Trump was "No president can order a wiretap""
Their answer included "With respect to the president’s tweets about Obama wiretapping him, Comey says:

I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the DoJ, DOJ has asked me to share with you that the answer is the same for the DoJ in all its components."
Do remember the DOJ is run by Trump's pick Ellison.
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I don't think randomness exists - people perceive the info that reach them as random, or that they chose to intepret it that way. I wouldn't blame Trump for that, nor any other politician, nor media. We have info from sources we choose.
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Evil President Trump signs Bill securing NASA's future.

http://www.space.com/36154-president...tion-bill.html
What are your reasons for claiming Trump is evil? Do share?

Let us hope that now the campaign is over that Trump continues to make such decisions
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What are your reasons for claiming Trump is evil? Do share?

Let us hope that now the campaign is over that Trump continues to make such decisions


Wow, do Keep the charade going it is quite entertaining..... By the way saying that Obama cannot order a "wiretap" is not the same as denying any "wiretapping".... if Trumps privacy was indeed violated, it would be incredible that Obama or his Surrogates had nothing to do with it.
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What was that specific crime? because "wiretap" with quotation marks can be a plethora of different methods to monitor someone. And if Obama really did that in order to help Hillary Clinton then he was using millions of dollars of tax payers money to abuse the privacy of a person who she happens to run against. Do you understand how serious that accusation is?

So Obama supposedly monitors Trump in the run up to the election, in some wire-tapping way which isn't wire-tapping that nobody is quite sure about.

He then apparently collects lots of information to help Clinton win.

But doesn't use it.

You're seeing the flaw in the plan here, right?


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Do not underestimate Trump, he might be hotheaded and arrogant, but he is certainly not stupid.
"Not being stupid" is not sufficient qualification to be a head of state.
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So Obama supposedly monitors Trump in the run up to the election, in some wire-tapping way which isn't wire-tapping that nobody is quite sure about.

He then apparently collects lots of information to help Clinton win.

But doesn't use it.

You're seeing the flaw in the plan here, right?




"Not being stupid" is not sufficient qualification to be a head of state.


Maybe they found nothing useful? or maybe Trumps security team was able to prevent it? They still have only stated that "HOS cannot order a wiretap".

Being a "woman" is not sufficient qualitification to be a head of state.
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