Fox news and left leaning? Seriously?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...news-poll-315/

Please do not compare both sides, one of the two sides has been humbled for the past 8 years while the other side has been spoiling themselves.


You would Need 8 years of trump before the left gets closer to the center again.


The right has been shamed long enough, the constant double standard on the left has replaced its own empathy and objectivity in favor of prejudice and moral pretenses.


@JoeUK i will have to check that out later... it is currently not possible for me.

Sooo, the right wing end of things is whiter than white and innocent as the driven snow, completely above board and beyond reproach? Innocent victim of left wing and liberal vitriol, none of it true?

Remind me again, which way do you lean politically?

I like to think I come across as a centrist with a slight lean to the left

Does anyone think that progress happens by "waiting stuff out"? It sounds like an excuse for simply not do anything but blaming others for zero progress. Which is exactly the victimhood stance I mentioned somewhere: a pose of passive group, just trying to "keep damage to minimum". It seems quite comfortable...just like realizing after the election that a president non grata got himself voted in. This passivity and waiting stuff out has cost the oponents a lot already and they got nobody but themselves to account for it. The only alternative to this is Trump, who actually keeps coming with ideas of how to make progress happen. I do think it is appealing more than a group of people who just complain and organize protests (quite destructive), choose media and "truths" to support their virtuous "waiting stuff out". Trump is nowhere near philosophy of ethics..but it might be the willingness, can-do (pretty American concept) mindset that will gradually win people over to his side. Looking for excuses or somebody else to blame is hardly an American heritage, tbh.

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I've been thinking about this. The alternative is Pence

What's a nation to do? Selfishly, wait it out and eat popcorn, hoping that we don't blow up in the meantime. Or be a whatever the term was, snowflake? and engage in civil activism. And vote, of course.

Happy to help.

I have exactly the same answer as kriss kross.
Center but leaning to the left.


But let me expand:
I like to think i am a classical liberal, and i believe in the opportunities that a capitalistic system brings but i also believe that a Little bit of socialism in the taste of wellfare for families, the disabled, and the working poor would be awesome.


I do not believe that raising the taxes on the rich is good, but i believe that the one true weakness of capitalism is frugality in the top 1%.


The biggest reason why capitalism is doomed is because of people like Bill Gates, who earn too much yet save money religiously.


Saving money is always a good decision for an individual, but it is also necesary for every individual to spend money on services and products in order to Keep the economy flowing.


Instead of raising taxes we should pressure the top 1% to spend money and live extravagantly(according to their extravagant income) so that the money that the poor spend on products Comes back to them for their services.


I believe we are encouraging the rich into a behaviour that damages the poor... because we always praise the rich when they save money and criticize them when they spend "too much", we have to stop putting money on a pedestal and start criticizing people who amass huge fortunes without any real reason.

Bill Gates? There's a long list of people I would use as an example for this situation over Bill Gates.


He has already given more than a third of his wealth to charity, and the plan is to give 95% of their wealth to charity.

Of course it is. That's how Trump got himself elected in the first place.

i am pro charity, but unless i am wrong he has his own charity foundation......... notice the trend? have you never noticed how every billionaire has a charity foundation?


I heard once that it is just a scheme to pay lower taxes...but i never cared to Research it....


I just gave an example of a billionaire who is constantly praised for not living extravagantly, the guy drives a TOYOTA for Trumps sake!

By all means, I agree, question charities. The Clinton foundation is a prime example of questionable practices (for those who are familiar with the Davos Crowd).
However The Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation does have a very transparent solid track record though.
I'm not saying it's all angel work, and nothing is being done wrong--but there's a good lot of uber weathly people, and any people in general, who can't match The Gates on charitable work.

I can only assume you've not been actually reading this thread

Well to the right of Gengis Khan would be my guess

People made their choice. He gave them what he knew they wanted.

So, after all, he is not so lobotomized and random as many seem to wish to present him here.

Such as?

'They' was a (small) minority, he is comedy gold. Wish he wasn't but he's not stepped up has he?

ftfy

Good idea

Source

I as well.

Tom

I am not taking that as an insult.... lol just because i am not sure if you are joking, or you are being serious.

@marton, since we are in the topic of charities, and we already talked about the double standard of the left... why are you only linking dirt to Trumps charity? I believe the Clinton foundation is way more interesting......

Which money is dirtier: Russian money or Saudi money?(not that Trump took money from the russians, but lets assume he did for arguments sake..... which of the two sources is dirtier?).