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They get their money from donations, and some of them even participate in public debates and speaks... which means they get paid by universities and associations... have you ever heard about twitch.tv? They stream live, and if you want to post a comment you gotta make a donation...

Dont get fooled tho, they earn much less than any of you, i believe that even I out earn some of them.

When getting on an Airplane is an absolute must, they use "gofundme" campaigns.... one of them even went to North Korea, and was streaming live......AND GOT CAUGHT and the stream was cut for a couple of hours... thankfully he was only made to delete some Fotos.
"They get their money from donations". Exactly, so they get their money from people who share the same views, the higher the donation the more difficult it is to remain independent.

"have you ever heard about twitch.tv" Yes, it is owned by Amazon.com? So you think it is not mainstream
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Indeed, it is weird flying over States like New Mexico at night; no lights on the ground in any direction.
We did a coast to coast train trip back in 2011. We could turn the lights off in our berth at night and see so many stars, It was incredible. And ffor much of New Mexico there was no phone signal. In one place I briefly picked up a network called US.MIL or something similar. Somehow surreal.

On a different trip we spent a day in Santa Fe and did the thermal baths there. On the next day we visited the Acoma Pueblo, an ancient Native American town on top of a meseta. According to our guide it is the oldest still inhabited town anywhere in the Western Hemisphere. Stupendously amazing place. It gave me a totally new understanding of Native American culture.That whole area is so beautiful. So much unspoilt nature.
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Ever stronger rumours, this Russia issue is not going to fade away...
And those who claim Trump has tamed the main stream media are living in a fantasy world!
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The FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Trump communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign, US officials told CNN.
In his statement on Monday Comey said the FBI began looking into possible coordination between Trump campaign associates and suspected Russian operatives because the bureau had gathered "a credible allegation of wrongdoing or reasonable basis to believe an American may be acting as an agent of a foreign power."
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Given Nunes’s concerns about leaks of classified information, some questioned whether Nunes himself had confirmed the existence of a classified intercept under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

“Representative Nunes’s statements would appear to reveal classified information which is a serious concern. With regard to the substance of his claims, I have no idea what he is talking about,” said Senator Ron Wyden, a Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee, which is also investigating the Trump-Russia question.
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Donald J. Trump‏Verifizierter Account @realDonaldTrump 8 Std.vor 8 Stunden

Spoke to U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May today to offer condolences on the terrorist attack in London. She is strong and doing very well.

Would he have written this had Theresa May been a man? I highly doubt it.
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Donald J. Trump‏Verifizierter Account @realDonaldTrump 8 Std.vor 8 Stunden

Spoke to U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May today to offer condolences on the terrorist attack in London. She is strong and doing very well.

Would he have written this had Theresa May been a man? I highly doubt it.
Hey, give the man a chance - he's spelled everything correctly, it's (almost) in proper sentences with grammar, punctuation and everything.
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Ever stronger rumours, this Russia issue is not going to fade away...
And those who claim Trump has tamed the main stream media are living in a fantasy world!


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Given Etefans claims, I can only assume that Comey belongs to the extreme left
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Death rates for uneducated white Americans rise
An epidemic of overdoses, suicides and alcohol-related illness is causing a surge in deaths among white Americans with a high-school education or less that now makes them more likely to die early than those who are black or Hispanic, according to new research that illustrates the country’s stark social divide.

The acceleration in what economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton call “deaths of despair” among middle-aged white Americans was first documented in a 2015 paper by the pair that was held up as one explanation for the popularity of then-candidate Donald Trump with white working-class voters.
Trump really needs to deliver on "everybody covered"!

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Trump really needs to deliver on "everybody covered"!

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Yes. On the other hand, the ever chaming Tom Price, Secretary of HHS and the new administrator of Medicaid, Seema Verma, I think, are probably happy to see that these annoying people, drains on the system simply die faster. I mean, they brought it on themselves, right? (Note: sarcasm).
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Trump always ends up being right. It's almost a little freaky.


Trump must have really liked that tweet to retweet it. He'll probably have it framed and hung up in the White House entrance.
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It seems obvious that she meant that Trump was talking unfiltered about topics that the voters wanted to hear about with the same tone,passion,and honesty that they wanted to hear it.
Don't sweat it - I choose people to communicate with, those who are here to exchange ideas and work on them to make them better, those get my time.

We have a lot of them here and I see a lot of effort here. EF is good. Thoughtful.

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It's funny. I know quite a few people - friends and relatives who emigrated to the USA and live the American dream - literally - house in suburbs, cars, 2 kids and even a summer cottage. Probably even a dog. These people have only their education and common sense to rely on, their English was sort of good, with a strong accent though (couldn't believe how fast they got rid of their accent last time I talked to my friend). They never needed identity politics, nor would they have benefited anyway, or someone to pat them on the back, that's why Skype and phones were invented for.
Frankly, don't understand why Trump is against immigration. Immigration brings value, more often than not.
Trump is not against immigration. And I know a lot of people who integrated well, too, anywhere in the world.

I also do not think at all that Trump is anti-Muslim, per se, either.

I have a feeling that there is work to be done in areas/lives/cultures that are being destroyed under the name of some religions. I am not sure - but it seems that these issues need to be repaired within the community.

I just read an article about a jihadist who came home after 2 years of being in Syria. He renounced all that he believed and said that the only thing that will ever work with this extreme, is to let the jihadists stop believing in distruction. Realizing they are being used. Influencing them with our ethics won't work. And at the same time, protect what we have and the quality of live and safety we have. I do not know what to think about it yet...the text was quite intense. But it seems that Trump is protecting exactly that. While letting the communities repair their issues. I find him the opposite of extreme, not even right.

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Trump is not against immigration. And I know a lot of people who integrated well, too, anywhere in the world.

I also do not think at all that Trump is anti-Muslim, per se, either.

I have a feeling that there is work to be done in areas/lives/cultures that are being destroyed under the name of some religions. I am not sure - but it seems that these issues need to be repaired within the community.

I just read an article about a jihadist who came home after 2 years of being in Syria. He renounced all that he believed and said that the only thing that will ever work with this extreme, is to let the jihadists stop believing in distruction. Realizing they are being used. Influencing them with our ethics won't work. And at the same time, protect what we have and the quality of live and safety we have. I do not know what to think about it yet...the text was quite intense. But it seems that Trump is protecting exactly that. While letting the communities repair their issues. I find him the opposite of extreme, not even right.

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So your jihadist in his article didn't pin any of the blame on the mind bending substances they get their impressionable recruits addicted to?

Cutting off their narcotics supply chains might have a surprisingly enlightening effect on the cannon fodder they are using and abusing.
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The landscape is basically..nothing, nothing, church, nothing, nothing, walmart, nothing...
May I just say how much I dislike the term 'flyover country' - and how destructive the attitude behind it is.

I may lean a tad to the left of some of my fellow 'flyover country' denizons, but I empathize with their anger at folks who sneer at them, who dismiss them with a stereotype. That sneering afterall is a factor in what drives many into movements such as that which brought us the Trump debacle. Considering 'flyover country' as unimportant (hint: the electoral college) is the mistake that brought us to where we are now.

Like every stereotype, there is some truth but also a whole lotta hogwash in that attitude.

Both my husband and I come from places dismissed as 'flyover country'. We were raised, nutured, educated to become the folks we are today in these 'nothing landscapes'. We are proud of our roots, grateful to the core for the communities that more sophisticated folks roll their eyes at.

Yep, there are lots of churches in the towns we grew up in. Much of community life centers around the church. What does that say about our communities? Please look beyond the stereotype.

I can think of four churches off hand in my hometown that, in addition to their usual missions of feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, sheltering the homeless, have stepped up to offer legal help, provided pro bono by church members, for people living in fear of deportation under the current administration.

Yes, both our hometowns can boast a Walmart. Along with theaters, concerts, museums, lectures, parks and arboretums. And bingo, and carry-ins, and Little League and Friday night football. Something for everyone, if you care to get up and look for it.

Sure our little flyover towns cannot offer the advantages of New York or London. But neither are they a wasteland. Come to think of it, I actually found 'culture', whatever that means, more easily accessible in flyover country than in Zürich.

Perhaps if one actually got down on the ground rather than merely flying over one might see the region(s) rather differently.

Neither OH nor I are Trump fans, despite our geographic roots. Didn't vote for him, and are very concerned over what is going on in the country right now. Perhaps because those podunk 'flyover country' public schools we attended instilled in us a love of our country that begins with a solid understanding of and respect for the US constitution. I am worried for my country because I hold dear the values on which it was built.

There is much wrong with our country - right coast, left coast and in the middle. We need to stop thinking of one another in stereotypes and try to find common ground.

So can we please drop the 'flyover country' nonsense? It ain't helpin'.

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And while I'm in pleading mode: wherever you are regstered to vote, please continue to pester your congress critters with your opinions, hold them accountable - and vote in the mid terms.
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Exactly! He's 1st generation on his mum's side and 2nd generation on his dad's side. I'm 4th generation Irish, 4th German and 2nd Scottish. I suspect most of us here have a similar history of immigration in our families.


OFC the USA is a Land created by immigrants for the immigrants.... even Trump has said that on different occasions.


Right now i cannot find the Video because the protestors decided to use "hey trump, we are all immigrants!" as a slogan.... and the Mainstream media pumps about 3 Videos per day with "trump" and "immigrants" as Tags...


I would have to sit down and watch his entire speech on immigration and point out the time when he says that.






That single line is one of the reasons i want Trump to succeed.


@marton you still do not seem to get it..... the only ones listening to Mainstream media on political topics is the extreme left.


You just wont get it until you give alternative media a try, but make sure to do it fast because CNN keeps claming copyright everytime footage of them lying is shown.
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"They get their money from donations". Exactly, so they get their money from people who share the same views, the higher the donation the more difficult it is to remain independent.

"have you ever heard about twitch.tv" Yes, it is owned by Amazon.com? So you think it is not mainstream


Ok i can tell you do not know what twitch is or how it works, i can also tell you are terrified of looking at the big bad wolf at ist face.


Keep clinging to the giant mega corporations that pump empty Videos with Giant colofrul titles by the millions... Keep recurring to the same "journalists" that cannot Keep themselves from interupting guests when they say the "inconvenient truth", Keep drinking the cool aid pal.... that is why Little by Little your opinion is going to be more and more irrelevant.
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Trump is not against immigration. And I know a lot of people who integrated well, too, anywhere in the world.

I also do not think at all that Trump is anti-Muslim, per se, either.

I have a feeling that there is work to be done in areas/lives/cultures that are being destroyed under the name of some religions. I am not sure - but it seems that these issues need to be repaired within the community.

I just read an article about a jihadist who came home after 2 years of being in Syria. He renounced all that he believed and said that the only thing that will ever work with this extreme, is to let the jihadists stop believing in distruction. Realizing they are being used. Influencing them with our ethics won't work. And at the same time, protect what we have and the quality of live and safety we have. I do not know what to think about it yet...the text was quite intense. But it seems that Trump is protecting exactly that. While letting the communities repair their issues. I find him the opposite of extreme, not even right.

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I sense wishful thinking.
We can always find contrary clips from his speeches.

We need to wait and see what he actually does.

He has attempted to ban refugees and immigrant visas from certain countries.
He has stopped the fast tracking of H1B visas.
He has accelerated the deportation of undocumented immigrants.

Are these actions consistent with a man who supports immigration?

It may be a false stereotype but I believe the "uneducated white males" have strong views on people keeping their word.
If the Obamacare replacement is significantly less than promised (which seems to be the case) then likely he will face a strong reaction?

He really needs to keep his promises about reviving jobs for this group. Stopping or reducing H1B visas will not help this group
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OFC the USA is a Land created by immigrants for the immigrants.... even Trump has said that on different occasions.

Right now i cannot find the Video because the protestors decided to use "hey trump, we are all immigrants!" as a slogan.... and the Mainstream media pumps about 3 Videos per day with "trump" and "immigrants" as Tags...

I would have to sit down and watch his entire speech on immigration and point out the time when he says that.

That single line is one of the reasons i want Trump to succeed.

@marton you still do not seem to get it..... the only ones listening to Mainstream media on political topics is the extreme left.

You just wont get it until you give alternative media a try, but make sure to do it fast because CNN keeps claming copyright everytime footage of them lying is shown.
"you give alternative media a try" Actually I have tried but I have seen how constant reading of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories blinds people to be able to accept simple truths.
For example, your inability to accept the US Justice Department denying Trump Tower was wire tapped when there is not one shred of evidence to support Trumps claims.
I do not know if it is sad or funny.
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Come to think of it, I actually found 'culture', whatever that means, more easily accessible in flyover country than in Zürich.
Yep. Small "c" culture. "Minnesota nice", "The heartland". I find the same in Canada as well, and I'm from Hogtown!
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There is much wrong with our country - right coast, left coast and in the middle. We need to stop thinking of one another in stereotypes and try to find common ground.

So can we please drop the 'flyover country' nonsense? It ain't helpin'.

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And while I'm in pleading mode: wherever you are regstered to vote, please continue to pester your congress critters with your opinions, hold them accountable - and vote in the mid terms.
Amen to that. While this thread is about Trump, it seems a good place to mention that the Democrats are doing a crap job of digging themselves out of the electoral hole where they find themselves. To get back on top, they are going to have to offer policies that will persuade a large number of Trump voters that they are being listened to and their issues addressed. A good start would be visiting "flyover country" and listening to them.
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Ok i can tell you do not know what twitch is or how it works, i can also tell you are terrified of looking at the big bad wolf at ist face.


Keep clinging to the giant mega corporations that pump empty Videos with Giant colofrul titles by the millions... Keep recurring to the same "journalists" that cannot Keep themselves from interupting guests when they say the "inconvenient truth", Keep drinking the cool aid pal.... that is why Little by Little your opinion is going to be more and more irrelevant.
My opinion is irrelevant, I do not live or vote in the US.
And like you I will probably never qualify for a US immigrant visa (assuming your self description was correct?).
So we can both discuss positive and negative aspects of Trump without ever having the inconvenience of having to live with them
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