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"I also think that obstructionism won't last so long" Well if Trump keeps tweeting that the last President and the Democratic nominee committed criminal acts then they won't all live happily together ever after will they?
It is a step wider than the usual inter party squabbles!
To be clear about this, most articles you are sharing are just someones opinion on The Trumps tweets? Are they doing any actual reporting, or are they just sitting at home refreshing tweeter?

On another point.. is crushing solicited items not a criminal act? Well if it is not criminal, it is atleast a loud signal of something alarming.... i do not understand why the MSM is not hammering that home.
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To be clear about this, most articles you are sharing are just someones opinion on The Trumps tweets? Are they doing any actual reporting, or are they just sitting at home refreshing tweeter?
Are you refering to the Reuters report?
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Old 29.03.2017, 22:44
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To be clear about this, most articles you are sharing are just someones opinion on The Trumps tweets? Are they doing any actual reporting, or are they just sitting at home refreshing tweeter?

On another point.. is crushing solicited items not a criminal act? Well if it is not criminal, it is atleast a loud signal of something alarming.... i do not understand why the MSM is not hammering that home.
But you would not believe msm anyway
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But you would not believe msm anyway
Because they refuse to report real stories and instead just focus on trying to erase their collosal failure......by tripling their efforts xD, they have too keep it up, more people waking up everday.
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Old 29.03.2017, 23:14
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Govt lawyers in court in Hawaii today asking the judge to limit his injunction against the second Trump ban.
They claim it is a completely new ban.

Contrariwise Hawaii's attorney general is quoting President Donald Trump's comments that the revised travel ban is a "watered down" version of the first one.

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Old 30.03.2017, 00:33
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Russian fingers everywhere?


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Not Russia, China!

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Most of Africa is worse when you look at standards and enforcement for precisely the reasons I gave. Only the significantly lower population density and much lower wealth prevents Africa from being even worse in total then China - certain cities are already there. It is very well established that heavily polluting industries head to countries with the lowest standards.

OTOH the EU has forced the UK, kicking and screaming, to adopt and (occasionally) comply with some reasonable minimum standards.
You're right.
It is well known that China had/has other priorities i.e. development (through industrialising, the only problem here is that this is done as it was in the West many, many decades ago) than having and implementing higher environmental standards. Linking its high level of centralism with the lack of action in this area seems a logical fallacy at best, and intellectual dishonesty at worst
Of course, we don't complain because we like our Ikea things - cheap.

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And what happens (sadly) when you leave these decisions is that powerful industrial lobbies lean on communities to relax standards and play one community off against another to try to drive standards down to their financial advantage.

There is no real alternative to having strong minimum national / transnational / preferably global standards.
Especially when talking about Africa where apart from low to non-existent standards you also have very high levels of corruption...

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You're right.
It is well known that China had/has other priorities i.e. development (through industrialising, the only problem here is that this is done as it was in the West many, many decades ago) than having and implementing higher environmental standards. Linking its high level of centralism with the lack of action in this area seems a logical fallacy at best, and intellectual dishonesty at worst
Of course, we don't complain because we like our Ikea things - cheap.

And you are right again



Especially when talking about Africa where apart from low to non-existent standards you also have very high levels of corruption...

So funny how you guys are shtting your pants about not being the big bad world superpower, do you think they are gonna stop to such a weaksauce argument as "china stahp, the climate change, ohh china y u not stahp".
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So funny how you guys are shtting your pants about not being the big bad world superpower,
Just remind me when Rumania was a big bad world superpower?


You need some history and geography lessons, Annakin!
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So funny how you guys are shtting your pants about not being the big bad world superpower, do you think they are gonna stop to such a weaksauce argument as "china stahp, the climate change, ohh china y u not stahp".
Usual irrelevant reply. If you bother reading (clearly not one of your strengths) you will see we were explicitly talking about environmental standards (e.g. the clean air you so despise) and not climate change.

That the Chinese have screwed large parts of their environment is beyond any reasonable dispute. One nice example is they have been so effective in killing off their wild bees they now have to pollenate fruit trees by hand.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

All of this is just so relevant to the thread topic! Apparently.

Let's all try extra hard to stay on topic. If any special little people post off topic, please ignore them. Don't reply, just pretend they don't exist.

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All of this is just so relevant to the thread topic! Apparently.

Let's all try extra hard to stay on topic. If any special little people post off topic, please ignore them. Don't reply, just pretend they don't exist.

Thanks.
Can you help by zapping any OT posts from said special person? Makes it a lot easier then to ignore them.
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Can you help by zapping any OT posts from said special person? Makes it a lot easier then to ignore them.
Well, not wanting to stir up a hornet's nest or anything, but I did zap all the OT posts (around 50, I think) that appeared after my warning a couple of days ago, from a large number of people (all of whom are special to me, of course). They magically reappeared...

I'll gladly try again, though. Here we go again: any off-topic posts from here on will be deleted.
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Govt lawyers in court in Hawaii today asking the judge to limit his injunction against the second Trump ban.
They claim it is a completely new ban.

Contrariwise Hawaii's attorney general is quoting President Donald Trump's comments that the revised travel ban is a "watered down" version of the first one.

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U.S. District Judge Derrick Watson granted Hawaii's request to extend his previous temporary block of provisions that would suspend new visas for six Muslim-majority countries and halt the nation's refugee program.

Watson rejected the government's request to narrow his ruling to apply only to the six-nation ban. Watson is stopping the government from enforcing both provisions until he orders otherwise.
Same source!
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@MusicChick! So much for bipartisan!

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U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan, the top Republican in Congress, said he does not want President Donald Trump to work with Democrats on new legislation for revamping the country's health insurance system, commonly called Obamacare.

In an interview with "CBS This Morning" that will air on Thursday, Ryan said he fears the Republican Party, which failed last week to come together and agree on a healthcare overhaul, is pushing the president to the other side of the aisle so he can make good on campaign promises to redo Obamacare.

"I don't want that to happen," Ryan said, referring to Trump's offer to work with Democrats.
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Seattle filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration Wednesday, charging that President Donald Trump’s executive order threatening funding for “sanctuary cities” is “unconstitutional and ambiguous,” and violates the 10th Amendment of the Constitution.
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Trumps promise to create jobs has been great for lawyers

Seattle probably has a good point about the 10th Amendment
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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In Printz v United States (1997), the Court found that Congress had unconstitutionally intruded upon state sovereignty.
The law in question in Printz was a provision of the Brady Act requiring chief law enforcement officers of states to run background checks on prospective hand gun purchasers.
The Court rejected the federal government's argument that it could coercively enlist states in enforcing federal law, even though it might be unconstitutional to require states to make law--the problem identified in New York v U. S.
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Trumps promise to create jobs has been great for lawyers

Seattle probably has a good point about the 10th Amendment


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Strange to see Obama supporters and Trump haters plead the 10th.

Obama wasn't exactly a guardian of state's rights.
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Strange to see Obama supporters and Trump haters plead the 10th.

Obama wasn't exactly a guardian of state's rights.
Why do you label them "Obama supporters and Trump haters"?
Seattle simply wants to remain a sanctuary city and to retain Federal funding.
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The great Conciliator

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 13 minutes ago

The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!
This is the President who wants to get his Budget changes and tax reforms through the House
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Why do you label them "Obama supporters and Trump haters"?
Seattle simply wants to remain a sanctuary city and to retain Federal funding.
Sounds like they want to have their cake and eat it too.
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