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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Light at the end of the tunnel?

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The U.S. Senate on Wednesday rejected a resolution to revoke an Obama-era rule to limit methane emissions from oil and gas production on federal lands, dealing a blow to President Donald Trump's efforts to free the drilling industry from what he sees as excessive environmental regulation.

The Congressional Review Act resolution received just 49 votes. The resolution would have revoked the rule and prevented similar regulations from being introduced.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Members of the White House press pool were not allowed into Trump's meeting Wednesday morning with Russian Foreign minister Lavrov and Envoy Sergey Kislyak.
Russian media who were allowed and released photos.
Sergey Kislyak has had contacts with many in Trump's team and his meeting with Flynn caused Flynn's dismissal.

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Don't know if it a complex game like 3 D chess or simple stupidity.

It was claimed the reason for Comey was Clinton but if we look at Trump's dismissal letter then Trump only mentions the Russian investigation not anything about Clinton Some sort of Freudian slip?

Trump wrote "While I greatly appreciate you informing me on three separate occasions that I am not under investigation...." which nobody understands; it is clear Comey never said that.

Trump also wrote " have received the attached letters from the Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General of the United States recommending your dismissal as the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation" but the letter from Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, does not make this recommendation. He dances around the topic but avoids making an actual recommendation!

Finally we have Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General who recused himself from managing the Russian investigation (due to him lying about his contacts with Russians) recommending the leader of this investigation is fired.
More on this topic!

"While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation," Trump wrote.

The White House declined to produce evidence of the three separate occasions the president referenced.

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Members of the White House press pool were not allowed into Trump's meeting Wednesday morning with Russian Foreign minister Lavrov and Envoy Sergey Kislyak.
Russian media who were allowed and released photos.
Sergey Kislyak has had contacts with many in Trump's team and his meeting with Flynn caused Flynn's dismissal.

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Presence of Russian photographer in Oval Office raises alarms.
The administration official said the White House had been misled about the role of the Russian photographer. Russian officials had described the individual as Lavrov’s official photographer without disclosing that he also worked for Tass.

Officials cited the danger that a listening device or other surveillance equipment could have been brought into the Oval Office while hidden in cameras or other electronics.

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This is the sort of things that goes wrong when Trumps team organise such visits themselves instead of having a Chief of Protocol like other Presidents.
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Old 11.05.2017, 18:13
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Acting FBI director Andrew McCabe testifies on Capitol Hill today.
Does not look like he will be considered for the vacant Director role after these comments;

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Mr. McCabe rejected the White House’s assertion that Mr. Comey had lost the backing of rank-and-file agents, a pointed rebuke of what had been one of the president’s main defences for the move.

“Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the F.B.I. and still does to this day,” Mr. McCabe said at the hearing.

“The vast majority of FBI employees enjoyed a deep and positive connection to Director Comey,” he added.

"It has been the greatest privilege and honor of my professional life to work with him."
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FBI, NSA, DNI and CIA all say Russia hacked the election
Democratic Sen. Mark Warner asked the panel if the intelligence community's assessment about Russia hacking the election is accurate.

The entire panel, which is made up of six intelligence directors, answered yes.
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Republican Committee Chairman Richard Burr asked McCabe whether he ever heard Comey tell Trump the president was not the subject of investigation. McCabe sidestepped the question, saying he could not comment on an ongoing investigation.
Acting FBI Director McCabe tells Senate Intel Committee he will refrain from updating the White House on the Russia investigation.
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Acting FBI Director McCabe on scope of FBI's Russia probe: "We consider it to be a highly significant investigation."
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

So, our Trump lovers have gone all quiet.

Perhaps we need a 3rd poll on the 'subject'

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ctor?CMP=fb_gu

not normal, not normal indeed - and hopefully his demise, finally ...
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Old 11.05.2017, 19:22
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So, our Trump lovers have gone all quiet.

Perhaps we need a 3rd poll on the 'subject'

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ctor?CMP=fb_gu

not normal, not normal indeed - and hopefully his demise, finally ...
Interesting that Trump team has now changed the story about the reason for Comey firing three times.

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Trump and his inner circle are not experienced politicians so either they failed to forecast the sh#tstorm this would cause or they were scared to inform Trump.

Will be interesting to see the process for selecting the new FBI director, I assume Trump will want someone who believes the Russia story is a Democrat hoax. But this is a question he should never ask a candidate who would then be compromised for their whole tenure.
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Old 11.05.2017, 19:34
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

President Donald Trump said Thursday that he had already decided to fire ousted FBI Director James Comey before Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wrote up a formal recommendation to do so.

"I was going to fire Comey," Trump told NBC News' Lester Holt in an interview. "Regardless of the recommendation I was going to fire Comey."

The White House initially said Rosenstein's memorandum to Attorney General Jeff Sessions prompted Trump to fire Comey, but Trump contradicted that account, saying he had already planned to do so and requested a memo to back up his decision.

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Seems the rumours that Trump wanted to fire Comey because he had more publicity than Trump were based in truth!

From the same interview "Trump sharply criticized Comey in the interview as "a showboat" and "a grandstander" and argued that Comey had thrown the FBI into "turmoil."
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump is ridiculous. He and his entire cabinet, and congressional leadership. Or, as George Carlin used to say - business criminal assholes. How I wish Carlin were still alive to give us his assessment. No one really compares to Carlin.

And no, Trump is not a good president. He is the worst president of my lifetime.

There, that felt good.
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Old 11.05.2017, 20:18
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So, our Trump lovers have gone all quiet.

Perhaps we need a 3rd poll on the 'subject'

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ctor?CMP=fb_gu

not normal, not normal indeed - and hopefully his demise, finally ...
Just to add to the other side for balance...I think the groan from Tom means he believes however bad Trump might be now, Hillary would have been worse. I imagine many other Trump supporters feel the same.

I might not agree but - understanding/acknowledging this reality is part of what it will take to get people to come together and get things done when dealing with this administration.
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Old 11.05.2017, 21:17
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Just to add to the other side for balance...I think the groan from Tom means he believes however bad Trump might be now, Hillary would have been worse. I imagine many other Trump supporters feel the same.

I might not agree but - understanding/acknowledging this reality is part of what it will take to get people to come together and get things done when dealing with this administration.
"Hillary would have been worse." I sympathise with this sentiment

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I am not phrasing this well but somehow Trump does not respect the important traditions and not respect the important Constitutional pillars underlying the Presidency,
Firing the FBI director is a very serious once in a lifetime decision which requires thorough evaluation.
Separation of powers is intended to prevent tyranny.

I have the impression that for Trump firing the FBI director is at the same decision level as ordering a second scoop of ice-cream with dessert which is fundamentally disrespecting the Constitution and setting unfortunate precedents.
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"Hillary would have been worse." I sympathise with this sentiment

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I am not phrasing this well but somehow Trump does not respect the important traditions and not respect the important Constitutional pillars underlying the Presidency,
Firing the FBI director is a very serious once in a lifetime decision which requires thorough evaluation.
Separation of powers is intended to prevent tyranny.

I have the impression that for Trump firing the FBI director is at the same decision level as ordering a second scoop of ice-cream with dessert which is fundamentally disrespecting the Constitution and setting unfortunate precedents.
This. Exactly.
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I have the impression that for Trump firing the FBI director is at the same decision level as ordering a second scoop of ice-cream with dessert which is fundamentally disrespecting the Constitution and setting unfortunate precedents.
AFAIK, firing somebody is not a big deal in the US (government employees may be a different thing) - and especially not for Trump.

I mean, he made the words "You're fired" famous, it's almost some kind of motto for his TV-show.

He's used to firing people like we are used to posting on EF (sort of). Or at least, that's what he wants us to believe.

For me, the whole administration has long since descended into a Monthy-Python level (but more grim) comedy. I can't take it serious anymore.
But I also can't laugh either.
Well, probably couldn't take it serious since inauguration day - and it has only gone downhill since ;-)
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Don't just groan Tom - at least have the guts to defend him properly. What is your justification for the sacking?
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What is your justification for the sacking?
Who needs a justification?

But the fact that he is an Obama leftover is a big justification.

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Who needs a justification?

But the fact that he is an Obama leftover is a big justification.

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Not enough justification.

In the whole US history the FBI head has only been fired twice.

The ten year period of tenure is deliberately set so it does not coincide with the President!
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I am not phrasing this well but somehow Trump does not respect the important traditions and not respect the important Constitutional pillars underlying the Presidency,
Firing the FBI director is a very serious once in a lifetime decision which requires thorough evaluation.
Separation of powers is intended to prevent tyranny.
All of which is precisely why the FBI Director's tenure is for 10yrs rather than 5.

In his earlier interview, Trump mentioned the "very fine dinner at the White House" 3 times. It's like the chocolate cake comments last month. When you're making monumental decisions, there's something seriously inappropriate / borderline psychotic about his emphasis on the food served at the time. What's next? Is he going to eat Comey's liver with fava beans and a fine Chianti?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A majority of Americans don't believe President Trump's sudden firing of James Comey was appropriate, according to a new poll.

The NBC News and SurveyMonkey online poll found that 54% of Americans believed Comey's dismissal was inappropriate, while 38% thought it was appropriate.

46% of Americans believe that Comey was fired because he is overseeing an FBI investigation into the possibility of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the presidential election.
A 24% faction believe it was because of the Clinton email investigation.
Another 22% said the firing was because of something else.

The people who replied were not Comey supporters! Only 25% said they approved of how Comey did his job as FBI director.

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Fuurck!!!

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President Trump defended on Friday morning the slew of contradictions in the White House's account of FBI Director James Comey's firing, suggesting he might cancel "all future 'press briefings'" in the name of accuracy.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ress-briefings
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it's going down the drain....
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