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Old 15.05.2017, 14:41
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That dictatorship has been there probably since the 60s.
Maybe even earlier, if you want to believe some youtube conspiracy theorists.

It was just a different varnish, if you want, in the form of a corporatocracy.
Dems and Reps being two different sides of that coin.

Obama put nice smiles and eloquent speeches on top of it, so people could sleep better.

The US made its bed. Now it has to lie in it.
"The Kings of old have become governments, the Lords corporations and the common man is still a slave to both"

This bed is not inclusive to the U.S.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Even Fox News has started to criticise Trump:
Krauthammer: 'Implausible' That Comey Was Fired Over Clinton Comments Last Year
Krauthammer: Trump's 'Tapes' Tweet 'Sounds More Like A Mafia Boss' Than POTUS
Warner: Trump firing Comey has 'appearance' of quashing FBI's Russia probe
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Old 15.05.2017, 15:19
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That dictatorship has been there probably since the 60s.
Maybe even earlier, if you want to believe some youtube conspiracy theorists.

It was just a different varnish, if you want, in the form of a corporatocracy.
Dems and Reps being two different sides of that coin.

Obama put nice smiles and eloquent speeches on top of it, so people could sleep better.

The US made its bed. Now it has to lie in it.
But it's completely different, when Obama was doing it I agreed with him.
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Old 15.05.2017, 17:02
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Madness, not far from impeachment,

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/o...tiny.html?_r=0
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Old 15.05.2017, 17:28
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Naw, just the NYT is trying to make the readers believe that. It is the perpetually outraged writers like Blow that make me think that the US really deserves the impeachment to happen to have to deal with the alternatives. Don't the alternatives look ever so awesome.
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Naw, just the NYT is trying to make the readers believe that. It is the perpetually outraged writers like Blow that make me think that the US really deserves the impeachment to happen to have to deal with the alternatives. Don't the alternatives look ever so awesome.
I thought he was rather controlled and measured in this piece. I enjoy his perspective.
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Old 15.05.2017, 21:55
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I thought he was rather controlled and measured in this piece. I enjoy his perspective.
He is a bit of a blowhard but.
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Same act in Europe and he would be seen as a conservative. People cheering him up after all the bollocks "Hear, hear.."

Like the double standards, really.

But yeah, I admit his role is much more important than anyone else's in Europe.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump does not know when to keep his mouth shut

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ational&wpmk=1

"President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said that Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information Trump relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said that Trump’s decision to do so risks cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and National Security Agency."
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Just been watching Senator Leahy interviewed about this by Wolf Blitzer on CNN, and it's all quite chilling.
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Old 16.05.2017, 15:29
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https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/sta...44723464253440
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Old 16.05.2017, 15:45
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

And now he is admitting that he told the Russians.

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And now he is admitting that he told the Russians.
true and in Twitter here

And then the next tweet is complaining about "LEAKERS in the intelligence community.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The POTUS is allowed to declassify any classified information any time he wants, and tell anyone he wants, so not sure where the problem is. Difficult to impeach him if he is allowed to do it.

It's getting closer, but I think he will survive this one....unfortunately.
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Old 16.05.2017, 16:52
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The POTUS is allowed to declassify any classified information any time he wants, and tell anyone he wants, so not sure where the problem is. Difficult to impeach him if he is allowed to do it.

It's getting closer, but I think he will survive this one....unfortunately.
Allegedly, this info came from an ally who specified it could only be shared to a limited group of people.

The problems are that firstly it might be possible for it to be used to identify and maybe then kill the source and, if this does not happen, then this ally is anyway unlikely to share such important info with the US in the future.
Plus it all adds fuel to the fire about Trump/Russia collusion.

As you wrote POTUS is allowed to declassify any classified information any time he wants; maybe in the future the US intelligence agencies might want to limit what they tell Trump which would be an unprecedented situation and maybe in itself illegal?

It was claimed long ago the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad would withhold some information sharing with the US because of a possible Trump risk.

Finally it now appears Trump is attending US intelligence briefings which he refused to do at the start of his Presidency.
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The POTUS is allowed to declassify any classified information any time he wants, and tell anyone he wants, so not sure where the problem is. Difficult to impeach him if he is allowed to do it.
He is also allowed to get two scoops of ice cream, fancy that!
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He is also allowed to get two scoops of ice cream, fancy that!
And allowed to push the big red button
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Fox News host Kimberly Guilfoyle told the San Jose Mercury News that she was in talks with the Trump administration about taking a job in the White House's press operations – potentially as press secretary. This is the job currently performed by Spicer

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Probably fake news !
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

She may want to rethink that offer.

Watergate 2 is looming on the horizon.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39944520
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