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Old 17.05.2017, 21:38
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

My cuz in Berkel-Enschot, sent me a link to a couple of interesting Dutch documentaries shown recently.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/watc...omments=disqus

I won't vouch as to the veracity but there is no smoke without fire imho
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You can almost hear Trump crapping himself. He probably doesn't even remember what exactly he said to Lavrov.
...but he'll remember what they ate in detail.

Trump's speech at the Coastguard event this evening was self indulgent crap, verging on incredibly disrespectful to the people he was addressing.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The Justice Department on Wednesday appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to oversee the federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, including potential collusion between Trump campaign associates and Russian officials.

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Good news that they have appointed a special counsel to oversee the federal investigation into Russian interference.
Really an astounding decisions at this time!
The problem is that "they" have in the past vigorously denied the need for such an appointment but then they do do it later which somehow looks like an admission of failure or worse?

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The problem is that "they" have in the past vigorously denied the need for such an appointment but then they do do it later which somehow looks like an admission of failure or worse?
Perhaps.

OTOH a change of mind can be evidence you have one.
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Old 18.05.2017, 11:28
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump team knew Flynn was being investigated, report says.

Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn was under investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the White House campaign.
Flynn told Donald McGahn, the chief lawyer for the Trump transition team, about the federal investigation into his Turkey dealings on Jan. 4, weeks before Trump removed him from his national security post.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump is a braggart with no political experience or moral fiber to qualify him as President. He gravitates towards people who inflate his ego and support his ramblings rather than finding people who would bring experience and decency to the job.

I'm less convinced that he purposefully became involved with the Russians and Turkish government but rather that he enjoyed being among like-minded folks whose grasp at power made them successful in his eyes. I question his intelligence and concentration skills and believe his present life is a series of moments of consciousness surrounded by a cloud of insecurity which he covers up through tweets and reminders of winning the campaign.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Out of curiosity, if there is proof that external parties influenced the 2016 election, is there any recourse for the election to be nullified and re-run?
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Out of curiosity, if there is proof that external parties influenced the 2016 election, is there any recourse for the election to be nullified and re-run?
I would think nullification is literally impossible as that would mean every one of Trump's action as POTUS was unlawful and also nullified. Same goes for the sacking of Comey and Yates as well as everyone's actions who followed his orders.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special (sic) councel appointed!
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This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!
President Donald Trump lashed out on Twitter today at the appointment of a special counsel -- made by his own Justice Department -- to oversee the federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion with his campaign.

Strange you would think he would welcome an independent non partisan leader?

The appointment was made by DAG Rosenstein who Trump initially said drove the Comey dismissal process although Trump later withdrew this statement.

There were reports that Rosenstein was upset at being made responsible although I do not know what else he expected to happen after he wrote a letter strongly criticising Comey.
I assume in the future this appointment will be labelled as "Rosenstein's revenge"
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Trump team knew Flynn was being investigated, report says....

...Every day a new revelation
You've been on the ball r.e. Flynn for a good while now. Thank you for that.

https://www.englishforum.ch/internat...ml#post2703342

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I'm less convinced that he purposefully became involved with the Russians and Turkish government but rather that he enjoyed being among like-minded folks whose grasp at power made them successful in his eyes.
As each day passes...each hour lately...I'm more convinced that he's been a useful idiot and America's being taken for a ride. It's unnerving that this can happen for so long and in plain sight, yet still the powers that be hesitate. I can only think they're waiting for a clear shot (metaphorically speaking).

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Out of curiosity, if there is proof that external parties influenced the 2016 election, is there any recourse for the election to be nullified and re-run?
I'd also like to know if the whole house of cards would have to fall with him? What would an interim / caretaker government look like?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

anyone know of an online betting where i can put money he won't make it for 4 years?
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anyone know of an online betting where i can put money he won't make it for 4 years?
Send Loz1983 a pm. I'm sure he can sort you out.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

And now for the next Trump castle in the sky:

Morningstar: Car Makers, Despite Promises to President Trump, Set on Job Cuts

"Earlier this year, the auto makers have promised to add head count at certain factories in response to criticism from President Donald Trump.

Those executives are quickly retreating. GM and Ford are making cuts to American workforces that could far outpace the job commitments made in recent months amid political pressure. Armed with union contracts that were reworked a decade ago, domestic car companies can respond more rapidly to investor concerns. "
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Every day a new revelation
Yet nothing seems to stick to get him impeached!

Is he that unshakeable or are these revelations just media hype?
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Yet nothing seems to stick to get him impeached!

Is he that unshakeable or are these revelations just media hype?
Patience; the latest investigation led by a special counsel is forecast to take a year.

Anyway I doubt he will be impeached, impeachment is such a long and complex process.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I was wondering for a while how the 1% (winners of globalization) goes together with kicking the foreigners out and cancelling the FTAs in favor of protecting local workers (losers of globalization). The quotes below are from an article by C. Crouch published in 2016 (attached).

"Contemporary conservatives have been more or less inseparably tied to neoliberal economics, which would rule out responding to discontent by
adopting economic protectionism and outright hostility to labour immigration" (6)

"The insistence on global free trade and free movement of all factors of production that is essential to the neoliberal project cannot coexist with nationalism and xenophobia [...]" (8)

In other words, the whole nationalist project is a scam to get the votes (if one believes in democracy in the US).

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Anyway I doubt he will be impeached, impeachment is such a long and complex process.
For the longest time, I thought impeachment would be in the bag, but then some posts on EF and my own research lead me to learn that, indeed, impeachment is not as easy a process as I thought!

Plus, as I've now posted umpteenth times....we would get Pence.

I wish the President would just play golf, honestly, and stay away from making messes in DC and worldwide.
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Out of curiosity, if there is proof that external parties influenced the 2016 election, is there any recourse for the election to be nullified and re-run?
I'd say no. Each county independently certified its vote totals, and each state then certified all the county totals after that. There's no single voting system used by all states. Each uses one or more different systems. A widespread hack would be pretty difficult to pull off.

Were voters' decisions influenced by the meddling? Possibly/probably, but ultimately they cast their own ballots and so here we are.
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Anyway I doubt he will be impeached, impeachment is such a long and complex process.
Surely you mean...the I word? (a smidge of light relief for you in the meantime)



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