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Old 20.05.2017, 23:44
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For the longest time, I thought impeachment would be in the bag, but then some posts on EF and my own research lead me to learn that, indeed, impeachment is not as easy a process as I thought!

Plus, as I've now posted umpteenth times....we would get Pence.

I wish the President would just play golf, honestly, and stay away from making messes in DC and worldwide.
Might be easier to be creative with the 25th Amendment?
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Old 21.05.2017, 10:53
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This was too funny!

My First Big Boy Trip, by Donald J. Trump

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...d_j_trump.html
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Old 21.05.2017, 10:54
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The difference betwen Obama and Trump:
"Trump sharply criticized President Barack Obama for bowing to then-Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz when he got his award a few years earlier.
Obama's press secretary, Robert Gibbs, denied at the time of the visit that that 6'1" Obama had bowed, saying the President "bent over ... to shake with both hands."

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Old 21.05.2017, 12:49
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This should be good.

"US President Donald Trump is expected to underline the need to confront extremism in Islam when he makes a speech in Saudi Arabia later on Sunday."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39989548

This in the most extreme legit Islamic country in the world.

"The ultraconservative Wahhabi religious movement within Sunni Islam has been called "the predominant feature of Saudi culture", with its global spread largely financed by the oil and gas trade.[8][9]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia

"Wahhabism (Arabic: الوهابية‎‎, al-Wahhābiya(h)) is an Islamic doctrine and religious movement founded by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.[1] It has been variously described as "ultraconservative",[2] "austere",[3] "fundamentalist",[4] or "puritan(ical)";[5][6] as an Islamic "reform movement" to restore "pure monotheistic worship" (tawhid) by devotees;[7] and as a "deviant sectarian movement",[7] "vile sect"[8] and a distortion of Islam by its opponents.[3][9] The term Wahhabi(ism) is often used polemically and adherents commonly reject its use, preferring to be called Salafi or muwahhid.[10][11][12] The movement emphasises the principle of tawhid[13] (the "uniqueness" and "unity" of God).[14] It claims its principal influences to be Ahmad ibn Hanbal (780–855) and Ibn Taymiyyah (1263–1328), both belonging to the Hanbali school,[6] although the extent of their actual influence upon the tenets of the movement has been contested.[15][16]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

Doesn't make them much different to IS does it? Apart from the fact they're rich and everyone seems to like them as opposed to countries like Iran and Syria.
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Old 21.05.2017, 14:57
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Obama's press secretary, Robert Gibbs, denied at the time of the visit that that 6'1" Obama had bowed, saying the President "bent over ... to shake with both hands."

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''Just bending over to shake with both hands!''
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Old 21.05.2017, 15:01
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''Just bending over to shake with both hands!''
That image looks (badly) photoshopped...
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Old 21.05.2017, 15:08
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That image looks (badly) photoshopped...
Probably is.

Still no less fake than the excuse that Obama never bowed and he just bent over to shake with both hands!
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Old 21.05.2017, 15:21
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Probably is.

Still no less fake than the excuse that Obama never bowed and he just bent over to shake with both hands!
That excuse was pretty lame. I don't see what the fuss is anyway. Bowing is not an act of submission (at least not all the time), which is what the American media likes to portray. It can be a sign of respect.

Now if the president knelt before another leader that would be bad, but a simple bow is no biggie.

And Trump didn't bow. He didn't know how to accept a medal so he kinda bent his knee, scrunched down and bent his head over at the same time.

GWB held hands with and kissed the Saudi prince, and the media had a field day with that too.
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Old 21.05.2017, 15:31
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And Trump didn't bow. He didn't know how to accept a medal so he kinda bent his knee, scrunched down and bent his head over at the same time
Yet in the news it seems that Trump's 'bow' is the latest scandal!

If all these incidents weren't so serious i'd almost be inclined to think that the msm had a serious bias against Trump...
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Old 21.05.2017, 17:54
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That excuse was pretty lame. I don't see what the fuss is anyway. Bowing is not an act of submission (at least not all the time), which is what the American media likes to portray. It can be a sign of respect.

Now if the president knelt before another leader that would be bad, but a simple bow is no biggie.

And Trump didn't bow. He didn't know how to accept a medal so he kinda bent his knee, scrunched down and bent his head over at the same time.

GWB held hands with and kissed the Saudi prince, and the media had a field day with that too.
The uproar is all somehow reminiscent of the mythical rude American tourist who "invades" foreign countries and tramples all over their culture and customs because they know no better.

Bowing anyway is more hygienic than shaking hands

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Old 21.05.2017, 18:14
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Saturday Night live again last night here.

Best one liner; "If Comey wanted to avoid interacting with Trump he should have married him"
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Old 21.05.2017, 21:23
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That US 100 billion dollar arms deal with the Saudis will give PM May a little headache with her post Brexit finance ideas.

I guess Trump is a better business man then I thought, plus he's stitching up the UK at the same time. Gotta laugh.
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Old 21.05.2017, 21:35
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That US 100 billion dollar arms deal with the Saudis will give PM May a little headache with her post Brexit finance ideas.

I guess Trump is a better business man then I thought, plus he's stitching up the UK at the same time. Gotta laugh.
His speech about terrorism today was good; he avoided rabble rousing and contentious statements.
Not the first time he has reversed his opinion; hope he sticks with this approach to terrorism!

The arms deal was a set piece, it was negotiated and agreed already; Trump just did the formal signing. The deal still has to be approved by Congress who have been given few details so far.

Obama administration sold ca. 100 billion dollar arms to Saudi over his two terms but backed off making such offers in their last few months.
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I was just being facetious, but I like to think that it will scupper the UKs Saudi arms deals. I am totally against the arms industry, they are merchants of death with no moral compass, who are supporting corrupt regimes and prolonging conflicts all over the world.
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I was just being facetious, but I like to think that it will scupper the UKs Saudi arms deals. I am totally against the arms industry, they are merchants of death with no moral compass, who are supporting corrupt regimes and prolonging conflicts all over the world.
So far it is hard to evaluate if countries will want to do business with the UK in the same way after Brexit as they do now when in that future UK will no longer be seen as somehow representing the EU or providing an entrance to the EU.

Clearly the Saudis want the US as their friend so place large orders otherwise they would buy more arms from lower cost suppliers like China and Russia.

Then the question will be how important will UK be as a friend of Saudi and as a result much do they want to invest in buying arms from UK?
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Obama administration sold ca. 100 billion dollar arms to Saudi over his two terms but backed off making such offers in their last few months.

I guess they wanted to leave a few low hanging fruit for the Clinton administration ;-)
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Wtf is that? Are they playing some kind of Saudi game show?
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Wtf is that? Are they playing some kind of Saudi game show?
A séance obviously. DT has gone occult.
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