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When Comey passed stuff to the Press he was a private citizen so First Amendment applies.
If they want to claim that he revealed Presidential privilege then they have to admit Comey was telling the truth?

Certainly Trump can spin this but there is a remarkable lack of support by Republican lawmakers for this approach; so far Trump's support consists of his family and some dubious "friends".

If Trump was sensible he would keep quiet about Comey and let it all fade away.

We also have the unedifying spectacle of Trump's lawyer hinting Trump will now fire the Special Counsel, Mueller.

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You're right, and I agree with you. But this presidency isn't about being right, or the truth.

Your logic fails at "If Trump was sensible". He isn't. But he's bugger me good at making that a strength. Trump revels in "unedifying" - it's his way of dealing with any criticism which starts "That isn't how a president should behave."

As long as the Reps are satisfied with "Yeah?, well Obama was worse, and Hillary would have been even worser!" there won't be a house revolt.
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We also have the unedifying spectacle of Trump's lawyer hinting Trump will now fire the Special Counsel, Mueller.

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You are joking! I hadn't seen that.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Haven't followed The Donald so closely lately, but I figure surely by now we have some solid evidence that them cunnin' Russians rigged the election right? Anything?
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Haven't followed The Donald so closely lately, but I figure surely by now we have some solid evidence that them cunnin' Russians rigged the election right? Anything?
When Comey was asked if Russian agents had interfered with the election, he said the FBI had no doubt that they had, but someone made the quip that Putin isn't a Republican. I believe the evidence of this is still classified, but apparently it's there and (allegedly) irrefutable.

So, if everyone comes to that conclusion, I see the real question becoming, did Trump's campaign knowingly or unwittingly benefit from that interference? It's the element of alleged collusion with a hostile foreign government that is of concern.
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When Comey was asked if Russian agents had interfered with the election, he said the FBI had no doubt that they had, but someone made the quip that Putin isn't a Republican. I believe the evidence of this is still classified, but apparently it's there and (allegedly) irrefutable.

So, if everyone comes to that conclusion, I see the real question becoming, did Trump's campaign knowingly or unwittingly benefit from that interference? It's the element of alleged collusion with a hostile foreign government that is of concern.
Just seems that after six months of being President, constant leaks and massive media hysteria I thought they would of had something on him, anything, even just a scrap of evidence!

Yet it seems there is nothing!
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Just seems that after six months of being President, constant leaks and massive media hysteria I thought they would of had something on him, anything, even just a scrap of evidence!

Yet it seems there is nothing!
Not at all. The investigation is into whether the Russians interfered with the 2016 election, NOT whether the President colluded with the Russians to win the 2016 election. However, proof of one may lead to evidence of the other. We shall have to wait and see. It's an investigation with huge legal and constitutional ramifications. Such things can drag on for years.

By his own words and deeds, the President isn't showering himself with glory. In matters such as this, he should keep his own counsel until such point where he may be asked to testify, instead of coming out fighting and backbiting on social media. Such behaviour is unbecoming of the office of President, and is also inadvisable for a potential witness in an investigation.
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Old 12.06.2017, 13:16
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Supposedly fake news.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40241220

We'll see I guess.
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US administration officials have, however, told the BBC the president "does not feel like" visiting the UK any time soon.
Seems to corroborate the earlier report. Nothing fake about that.
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Just seems that after six months of being President, constant leaks and massive media hysteria..
Not just media hysteria. Most of the yanks one ran into were geared to persuade me what a jackass their prezident is..before I even had a chance to tell them that A) I don't really care about politics that much, B) even if I cared I do not think I'd agree to most of what they are so passionate to share and C) I do not think yelling, protesting, incivilities or wearing ugly hats is considered doing political "work". Tiring! "Hatespeech" is so close to Orwell, how bizarre.

Anyways. Where were we? What has he done (or "undone") now?
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Anyways. Where were we? What has he done (or "undone") now?
He's up to his old tricks again. Now he's grabbed Comey by the pussy.
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Old 12.06.2017, 17:34
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Not just media hysteria. Most of the yanks one ran into were geared to persuade me what a jackass their prezident is..before I even had a chance to tell them that A) I don't really care about politics that much, B) even if I cared I do not think I'd agree to most of what they are so passionate to share and C) I do not think yelling, protesting, incivilities or wearing ugly hats is considered doing political "work". Tiring! "Hatespeech" is so close to Orwell, how bizarre.

Anyways. Where were we? What has he done (or "undone") now?
done (or "undone")? Just the usual rumours floating around!

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The attorneys general of Maryland and Washington, D.C., plan to file a "major lawsuit" against President Donald Trump as early as Monday, they said Sunday night.

Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh and his D.C. counterpart, Karl Racine, didn't disclose the focus of the litigation, which they said in a statement they would formally announce Monday afternoon.
No idea if this will really happen or if it will be accepted for review by the court
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Old 12.06.2017, 20:26
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More on that here

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40250700

and the travel ban blockage has been upheld by the appeals court.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40252724

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More on that here

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40250700

and the travel ban blockage has been upheld by the appeals court.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40252724

This is the second appeal court to uphold a judge's injunction against Trump's second travel ban.
The first decision was appealed to the Supreme Court by Trump, presumably this one will also be appealed

Will be interesting to see if the Supreme Court agrees to review these cases. They do not review every case that is sent to them especially not when the appeal court decision supports the judge. Also they usually like to avoid politically sensitive cases with constitutional implications like this one.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Indeed - he is now showing how good he is - good for nothing!
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Unlikely dreams

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Nearly half of registered voters support President Trump being impeached, a new poll finds.

Democratic polling firm Public Policy Polling's new poll released Monday shows that 47 percent of voters support Trump being impeached, while 43 percent oppose it.
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Strangely this poll states "Trump’s approval rating sits at 41 percent" while mostly from others he is in the 30s!
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Donald Trump just held the weirdest Cabinet meeting ever

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Chuck Schumer trolls Trump with parody of Cabinet meeting here!

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US senators have reached an agreement on legislation imposing new sanctions on Russia, including a provision that would prevent the White House from easing, suspending or ending sanctions without congressional approval.

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LOL!

Seems to be some sort of non-subtle message
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I heard that he is about to repeal a lot of the good work Obama did on Cuba....

Will he be a good President? Going from strength to strength!
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Well who would have guessed that the US House of Representatives had such a keen sense of humour!

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Donald Trump is facing action aimed at preventing him deleting his tweets - in a bill named after his infamous "covfefe" post. The Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically for Engagement or COVFEFE bill was introduced to the US House of Representatives on Monday.
http://news.sky.com/story/covfefe-bi...weets-10914597
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Well who would have guessed that the US House of Representatives had such a keen sense of humour!



http://news.sky.com/story/covfefe-bi...weets-10914597
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I'm with you on the second point, but that could be put down to a temporary lapse of quick wittedness. Perhaps he was genuinely stunned at what was being asked of him and didn't have the correct response to mind.

On the first point, non-classified information being passed to the media through a third party legal expert, and only when the author, who was now a private person, came under social media attack from the President? Hmmm... I think a lot of that will depend on whether they buy that he was protecting the reputation of the FBI and not just watching his own back.

The point that wrangles with me is the private dinner. I'd have walked straight out the moment I realised it was just the two of us. That's when Comey should have really hammered home what is appropriate behaviour.

Bring on Jeff Sessions testimony. My intuition is saying Sessions is the one who'll slip up.
Disappointing Jeff Sessions testimony yesterday, I believe he did himself more harm than good.

When asked about Russian interference in the 2016 election he said he only knew what was written in the Press.
Then this top US Justice official amazingly admitted he had never asked for a briefing about the Oct. 7 joint statement from 17 US intelligence agencies that the Russian government directed the election interference.

Then he answered many questions with "I could not recall" (30 times )!

He refused to answer questions about conversations with Trump.
When asked why he gave a rambling answer how about possibly Trump could claim executive privilege at some future time; as the top US Justice official he must know the scope of executive privilege is limited so could tailor his answers accordingly.

He gave a bombastic defence statement about how he was insulted by the Russian allegations and about how long he had been a faithful US official but with little factual content.

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