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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

President Trump told Republican senators Tuesday that he thinks the bill that House Republicans passed in May to repeal and replace Obamacare was “mean" — even though the president celebrated passage of the legislation with a pep-rally style event with House leaders in the Rose Garden.

Trump said at the time that he brought the lawmakers over — on buses from Capitol Hill, no less — after the bill narrowly passed through the House because “we want to brag about the plan.”

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I assume Trump will do and say anything to try to get this lame duck Bill passed by the Senate
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Strangely this poll states "Trump’s approval rating sits at 41 percent" while mostly from others he is in the 30s!
Only 811 polled. I wouldn't trust those numbers too much.
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Old 14.06.2017, 11:45
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Only 811 polled. I wouldn't trust those numbers too much.
True, in the small print they say "The margin of error is +/- 3.4%."

But after the huge failure of most of the recent UK election polls then who knows what to trust!
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Old 14.06.2017, 12:39
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More on that here

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40250700

and the travel ban blockage has been upheld by the appeals court.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40252724

And now some of the Congress people are also going to sue him.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40271172
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Only 811 polled. I wouldn't trust those numbers too much.
Statistically, that's a perfectly reasonable sample size. As marton points out, the poll has a margin of error of around 3%, which is not huge.

You'd be surprised (apparently) by the small number of data points needed to approximate a statistical distribution. It's the randomness of the sample that matters, not the size.

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Statistically, that's a perfectly reasonable sample size. As marton points out, he poll has a margin of error of around 3%, which is not huge.

You'd be surprised (apparently) by the small number of data points needed to approximate a statistical distribution. It's the randomness of the sample that matters, not the size.
Nah, I'm not surprised.

The sample size probably means 95% confidence in the results. So if the model is correct, probability outright demands for 1 in 20 to be off by more than 3% - off by an unknowable amount (though of course not all amounts have the same probability). After the inaccuracies of the polls leading up to the presidential election I would expect pollsters to apply more stringent requirements.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Very touching to see Trump's lengthy, glowing, very prompt tribute to the Republican politician, two policemen, and two others non-fatally wounded in yesterday's shooting attack on a baseball game.

Interesting to compare it to his non-response to the murders of two white men who attempted to protect two Muslim girls from an abusive, white racist a few days ago.

But then again, the senior Republican and the policemen are American heroes and true patriots, not Muslim sympathisers.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Special counsel starts investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say

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Once the rumours started to circulate about Trump firing the Special counsel Mueller it was clear Mueller would start something like this. So if he was fired by Trump then there would be a clear case of possible obstruction of justice.

I am not implying there is no merit in Mueller investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, we will have to wait for that investigation to be completed to know if there was/is merit.
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Very touching to see Trump's lengthy, glowing, very prompt tribute to the Republican politician, two policemen, and two others non-fatally wounded in yesterday's shooting attack on a baseball game.

Interesting to compare it to his non-response to the murders of two white men who attempted to protect two Muslim girls from an abusive, white racist a few days ago.

But then again, the senior Republican and the policemen are American heroes and true patriots, not Muslim sympathisers.
Reminds me about Trump's lack of comment on the Quebec mosque atrocity where a "claimed to be" Trump supporter killed 6 and wounded many.

A few hours before six men were killed at a mosque in Quebec City on Jan. 29, U.S. President Donald Trump tweeted about how Christians are executed in the Middle East "in large numbers" and that an end must be put to the "horror."

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US senators have reached an agreement on legislation imposing new sanctions on Russia, including a provision that would prevent the White House from easing, suspending or ending sanctions without congressional approval.

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LOL!

Seems to be some sort of non-subtle message
Update!
In an overwhelming vote of 97-2, the U.S. Senate approved a new round of sanctions on Russia in response to the nation’s likely interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, as well as its involvement in the Syrian civil war.
The deal also prevents President Trump from loosening or rolling back restrictions on Russia without Congress’s approval, representing one of the most significant GOP-enforced checks on the president to date.

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Trump has repeatedly downplayed – and denied – the conclusion by the intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the US election to benefit his campaign.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

After high drama, Southern Baptists denounce the 'alt-right'.

The debate began when Rev. Dwight McKissic, a black pastor from Arlington, Texas, called on Southern Baptists to formally condemn the movement's "retrograde ideologies, xenophobic biases, and racial bigotries" and re-affirm its opposition to racism in the aftermath of a presidential election that saw the rise of a small movement of nationalist and white supremacists that coalesced in support of President Donald Trump.

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Probably won't do Trump's vote much good even though nobody seems to be sure exactly who or what the 'alt-right' is!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump sells Qatar $12 billion of U.S. weapons days after accusing it of funding terrorism

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Business as usual
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Deported man's wife and friends rethink voting for Trump

No way you could make this up. Simply impossible.
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Old 15.06.2017, 17:29
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

LOL!

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Vladimir Putin has joked that the fired FBI director James Comey is welcome to seek asylum in Russia.

Speaking in his annual question and answer session in Moscow, the Russian President said it was "very strange" that the FBI official had leaked details of conversations with Donald Trump, and likened his actions to those of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

According to Tagesanzeiger, Donald and Eric Trump are being sued for fraud and embezzlement during his presidency because donations have been used for private purposes, according to the sueing J. Whitfield. He had filed for civil penalties earlier this year, this time around he seeks prosecution under criminal law.

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Politico says the same, though the crimes committed may be a bit different, bribery and fraud.
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Deported man's wife and friends rethink voting for Trump

No way you could make this up. Simply impossible.
I never thought leopards would eat MY face sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces party.
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I never thought leopards would eat MY face sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces party.
lol.

The article's a non-story, nothing new here. Obama did the same, and nobody batted an eyelid. I once met a 20 something chap from El Salvador, he'd moved to the states illegally with his parents when he was 1 yr old. The parents ended up becoming naturalized, but not him, though he was convincingly reassured by NIS that there was nothing to worry about in his case, no need to rush to apply for citizenship. Until he was deported back to El Salvador, even though he couldn't speak a word of Spanish.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

This is just too tempting in a sad way.

First they came for the socialists and so on...

Is the US still a democracy?
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lol.

The article's a non-story, nothing new here. Obama did the same, and nobody batted an eyelid. I once met a 20 something chap from El Salvador, he'd moved to the states illegally with his parents when he was 1 yr old. The parents ended up becoming naturalized, but not him, though he was convincingly reassured by NIS that there was nothing to worry about in his case, no need to rush to apply for citizenship. Until he was deported back to El Salvador, even though he couldn't speak a word of Spanish.
"Obama did the same"
It is strange!
Trump's campaign was all about "Obama is crap and I will do much better" but when problems come along then the answer is "Obama did that too" Like Obama set some high standard that Trump aspires to follow.
For example, the Muslim ban where certain countries were selected to be banned and when questioned Trump said that Obama defined which countries?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A great interview with Charlie Rose back in 1992.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByG-49cjBgU

Damn, back then he was fun
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