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Old 15.06.2017, 21:45
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"Obama did the same"
It is strange!
Trump's campaign was all about "Obama is crap and I will do much better" but when problems come along then the answer is "Obama did that too" Like Obama set some high standard that Trump aspires to follow.
For example, the Muslim ban where certain countries were selected to be banned and when questioned Trump said that Obama defined which countries?
Don't get me wrong, I don't support Trump in the slightest. Obama either.

But I will point out the hypocrisy of the so-called left for demonizing Trump and Co. while simultaneously being unable to turn the magnifying glass around and look at themselves.

In the article/situation being discussed, having voted for Trump is irrelevant. Why even bring it up? If there's a problem with the immigration/deportation policy, that should be addressed. Instead we have the Left attacking Trump and centering the conversation around his shortcomings (and of course there's no lack of those) instead of around policy and potential avenues for changing it.

I don't believe trump is fit to be President, but he's not the cause of all of the problems facing the US or anywhere else in our increasingly interconnected world.

He's just a symptom.
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Old 16.06.2017, 09:06
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The article's a non-story, nothing new here. Obama did the same, and nobody batted an eyelid.
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But I will point out the hypocrisy of the so-called left for demonizing Trump and Co. while simultaneously being unable to turn the magnifying glass around and look at themselves.
I don't recall Obama or Hillary making "bad hombres" a core point of their campaigns.

However, Obama had tried to introduce a way to naturalise illegal undocumented immigranst, exactly of the kind the article is about, but was blocked by the Republican-dominated congress. Hillary had promised to introduce a track to citizenship for such cases in her first 100 days. If either had had his/her way this kind of cases would have been largely legalised.

Besides, it's not about the deportation per se but about voter's reason why they voted the way they did, effectively causing this to happen to themselves (to the extent a single vote can be called "cause").

So long story short: You're barking up the wrong tree.
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Old 16.06.2017, 09:27
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I remain convinced that Trump is the president that the US deserves.

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Old 16.06.2017, 09:34
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Another burst of tweets yesterday moaning about what Hillary did in the past.
Why doesn't he move on with governing the country and MAGA?

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What these tweets suggest is something we already knew: Trump just can't quit the 2016 election, and Clinton.
Trump can try to distract. He can try to deflect. He can complain about Clinton's alleged transgressions. But what he can't change is the fact that he is President, and this investigation isn't going to disappear just because he sent two -- or two hundred -- tweets about Clinton.
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Old 16.06.2017, 09:46
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The business dealings of President Donald Trump's son-in-law and trusted aide Jared Kushner are being investigated by Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller, the Washington Post reported Thursday, citing officials familiar with the matter.

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Of course, Mueller will follow every possible thread in the hopes of teasing out some wrongdoing, being investigated does not automatically mean there was wrongdoing.

Innocent until proven guilty is the name of the game.
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Old 17.06.2017, 00:48
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Rumours that Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein who appointed special counsel Mueller to lead the Russia investigation might also have to recuse himself

So who leads this task ???
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Rumours that Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein who appointed special counsel Mueller to lead the Russia investigation might also have to recuse himself

So who leads this task ???
Trump on his own probably
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Old 18.06.2017, 14:45
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The new Rasmussen Poll, one of the most accurate in the 2016 Election, just out with a Trump 50% Approval Rating.That's higher than O's #'s!
Trump lying about Obama again.
Trump was correct in stating his approval rating in the latest poll, released on Friday, was at 50 per cent, but that was still 12 percentage points below Obama's final Rasmussen figure of 62 per cent.

In fact, the ex-President's approval rating was above 50 per cent in every poll released by the company from October 24 until he left office.
Going even further back, Obama's rating on June 16, 2009 - the same point in his presidency as Trump is at now - was 56 per cent, meaning he had the Donald beat in that regard as well.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4kMEAL3IB
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Old 18.06.2017, 21:22
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Rumours that Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein who appointed special counsel Mueller to lead the Russia investigation might also have to recuse himself

So who leads this task ???
The special investigation by Mueller would continue to be led by him, unless Trump fires him.

If Deputy AG Rosenstein recuses himself from any cases, and AG Sessions had already recused himself as well, then the (acting) Solicitor General Jeff Wall would take over whatever those cases are.

Trump's nominee for SG, Noel Francisco, hasn't been confirmed by the Senate yet.

Then again, the acting SG was appointed by Trump - so if you're talking about cases related to him I am not sure how far down the chain you'd have to go to get someone that wouldn't have a potential conflict of interest and need to recuse him or herself.
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Old 20.06.2017, 13:36
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Edgy Comedian DARES to Make Fun of Trump

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Old 20.06.2017, 16:18
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Shurely just a coincidence

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Donald Trump's nominee to be the director of the FBI, Christopher Wray, represented an American energy executive in 2006 who was being criminally investigated by the Russian government.

The detail, which was included on Wray's biography on the website of the law firm King and Spalding dating back to 2009, was removed in 2017, according to a KFile review of the Web Archive.
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Strange how Russia keeps popping up
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Old 20.06.2017, 17:20
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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The new Rasmussen Poll, one of the most accurate in the 2016 Election, just out with a Trump 50% Approval Rating.That's higher than O's #'s!
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Trump lying about Obama again.
Trump was correct in stating his approval rating in the latest poll, released on Friday, was at 50 per cent, but that was still 12 percentage points below Obama's final Rasmussen figure of 62 per cent.

In fact, the ex-President's approval rating was above 50 per cent in every poll released by the company from October 24 until he left office.
Going even further back, Obama's rating on June 16, 2009 - the same point in his presidency as Trump is at now - was 56 per cent, meaning he had the Donald beat in that regard as well.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4kMEAL3IB
Wonder if Trump will tweet about this poll?

At 36 percent, Mr. Trump's approval rating is now his lowest in CBS News Polls since becoming president. Fifty-seven percent now disapprove.

President Trump's job approval rating has dipped in recent weeks, pushed down by negative reaction to his handling of the Russia investigations, and he's seen some slippage among Republicans as well

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Old 20.06.2017, 21:39
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

In January, after U.S. President Donald Trump criticized Ford for shipping small-car manufacturing to Mexico, Ford said it would kill plans to build a $1.8-billion Focus plant in San Luis Potosi and instead produce the new Focus at an existing plant in Hermosillo.

Now Ford Motor Co said it will move some production of its Focus small car to China and import the vehicles to the United States in a long-term bet on low oil prices and stable U.S.-China trade relations despite recent tensions.

Hinrichs (President Global Operations) said "the capital saving outweighs the risk" of having to pay a potential border tax on the Chinese-built Focus.

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So Trump's intervention seems to have caused Ford to switch the plan to build the new Focus in Mexico to build in China instead!
Law of unintended consequences strikes again
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Edgy Comedian DARES to Make Fun of Trump

"Nothing is funnier than Liberals thinking they are anti-establishment".

The comments are fun.
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Old 20.06.2017, 23:46
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The US state department has issued a stinging rebuke to Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies saying they had failed to come up with a justification for the embargo they imposed on Qatar earlier this month.

The public and blunt criticism of Riyadh and the United Arab Emirates marked a sharp about-turn from Donald Trump’s wholehearted backing for the embargo, and his accusations of terrorist funding against Qatar.

It follows a increasing pattern in which the state and defence departments have pursued policies abroad that are far removed from Trump’s rhetoric.

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I am starting to believe Slammer was correct when he claimed in real situations the US Departments would ignore Trump
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On the topic of embargo, it will be interesting to see what happens with Cuba in the near future.

Cuba's Small Businesses Brace For New U.S. Trade, Travel Restrictions
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Old 21.06.2017, 15:24
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried!
So far nobody in Trump's administration has been able to explain this tweet!

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis will meet today with Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi and General Fang Fenghui, Chief of the People's Liberation Army's Joint Staff Department to discuss N. Korea and next steps!!
Maybe they will explain Trump is a "nut job"?

The Queen’s speech traditionally lists any upcoming state visits for the parliament, and she mentioned the planned visit in July by the king and queen of Spain. However, there was no mention of Trump
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The Queen’s speech traditionally lists any upcoming state visits for the parliament, and she mentioned the planned visit in July by the king and queen of Spain. However, there was no mention of Trump
Doesn't one simply smile enigmatically and blame the dog?
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I thought the UK visit was postponed indefinitely.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Now that made me chuckle..

http://www.nme.com/news/kevin-spacey...-trump-2091078

And that too....
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-im...nk-their-vote/

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Dave Keck: I voted for him because he said he was going to get rid of the bad hombres. Roberto is a good hombre.

Roberto Beristain's wife, Helen, who also works at the restaurant, was born in Greece and became a U.S. citizen 16 years ago. She met Roberto in 1998, at another restaurant in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
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I never thought leopards would eat MY face sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces party.
Still a mystery how so many people can be so naive to believe that such things won't affect them personally...given the circumstances.... I can't even feel sorry for her.

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