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Old 23.06.2017, 20:08
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Thanks, it isn't very obvious to me that Congress and HoR are doing anything. The press are not reporting the day to day stuff.
Keep in mind that although the majority in both houses and the presidency belong to the Republican party, there are several factions within the party that can't agree on legislation. So it's hard to get anything done.

There have been more than 11,000 resolutions/bills, etc. proposed this year between the two houses, and only 40 have made it through both and the president's desk to become law. So they're busy but maybe not generating results as some would expect, and not tackling the big issues like healthcare and taxes as aggressively as some would like. The day-to-day stuff is boring and doesn't generate revenue for media outlets.

Example of super important work being done: On 6 June, HR375 became law - it designated a federal courthouse building in Tennessee to be named the Fred R. Thompson Federal Building and United States Courthouse. You'd only care about that if you're A) from or in Tennessee, or B) a fan of the long-running U.S. TV show Law and Order.

As a comparison, the Democratic-majority Congress in 2009 had passed 30 laws by this date (first 6 months of Obama's first term). Even the landmark ACA/Obamacare wasn't passed by the Dems until Obama was into his second year of office.

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The "immigrant" scenario I was referring to was Medea's naturalisation as a British citizen; iirc, she is an American who acquired British citizenship and now objects to others emigrating to the U.K. Since then, Medea moved to CH as a trailing spouse and has taken up the cudgels again.
Incorrect. I was born dual: American because I was born there and British via my British parents.

I have no objection to people immigrating to the UK or anywhere else so long as they do it according to the rules of said country. This is what we did when we moved to Switzerland and what we continue to do. Whether we'll be able to if the rules on keeping permits changes as planned I don't know. At the moment we don't meet the criteria so we either have to work to do so or say well it was fun while it lasted, but now we're moving back to the UK.

3Wishes, we moved because the job offer came at just the time my husband was finishing his previous position and we never gave a thought to the economic opportunities - or the chocolate and cheese.
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Incorrect. I was born dual: American because I was born there and British via my British parents.

I have no objection to people immigrating to the UK or anywhere else so long as they do it according to the rules of said country. This is what we did when we moved to Switzerland and what we continue to do. Whether we'll be able to if the rules on keeping permits changes as planned I don't know. At the moment we don't meet the criteria so we either have to work to do so or say well it was fun while it lasted, but now we're moving back to the UK.

3Wishes, we moved because the job offer came at just the time my husband was finishing his previous position and we never gave a thought to the economic opportunities - or the chocolate and cheese.
My mistake, apologies.

"...don't meet the criteria"—are you not on C permits?
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Yes, but the changes currently being discussed means you'll need to speak a Swiss language to a set level among other things and at the moment we don't. So we either manage to meet whatever the new criteria is or risk being downgraded to a B and maybe eventually being told to leave.
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Yes, but the changes currently being discussed means you'll need to speak a Swiss language to a set level among other things and at the moment we don't. So we either manage to meet whatever the new criteria is or risk being downgraded to a B and maybe eventually being told to leave.
But do you really believe they will downgrade people who acquired their C-permits years back and also who have been here for more than say 10 or 12 years?

I really doubt anyone who is on a C-permit and who has been here for more than 10 years is likely to be affected, neither by Brexit, nor by internal Swiss changes regarding permits. It would just be a huge upheaval, both for the authorities and for the permit holders themselves!

Think of foreign homeowners who live here! It is also likely that many C-permit holders have settled here and own the properties they live in.

I own my own home and am a C-permit holder, I speak the 3 main Swiss languages, I feel integrated, but then it is the Swiss who have to judge if I am.
Nevertheless, I do not intend to naturalize since I already have two passports, both of which (once the UK finally leaves in 2019) are although European, are non-EU, what I am supposed to do with 3 non-EU passports?!

The vast majority of foreigners who reside in Switzerland never naturalize, despite being eligible as far as the number of years of residence is concerned. I am eligible and received a letter about it, but I have no interest in doing it at present. And in any case with a change of canton on the cards for me sometime within the next year, I will temporarily become ineligible again!

If it really did come to C-permits being downgraded to B-permits, what is to stop you staying here in any case? A B-permit can still be renewed every 5 years. If you are not claiming benefits what is the impediment to the renewal of a B-permit?! You can potentially be on a B-permit forever.

Medea, I did not know you were planning to return to the UK. Surely this is not because of the upcoming changes?

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Yes, but the changes currently being discussed means you'll need to speak a Swiss language to a set level among other things and at the moment we don't.
20+ years here and you don't?

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20+ years here and you don't?

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Yes but neither do you, well not fluently anyway!
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So, Donnie, about that wall. The one in Berlin went up pretty fast, and it lasted for a fair while. What's holding you up?
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koblenz, here's the thread re the proposed changes.

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...t-holders.html

We also own our house here.

As for staying forever on a B permit, no again there will be integration criteria set to be able to keep it so that may not be possible.

We're not planning anything yet, but if the changes do come into force then we may have to consider it. It's a few years down the line as there will be 2/3 years from the final agreement to when it becomes law I expect, but it's something all permit holders will need to understand and deal with, depending on what the final details are.
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I'm ashamed of my fellow libtard celebs, if you're going to make a statement like that, you need to own it.

Glastonbury 2017: Johnny Depp apologises for Trump comment

Actor Johnny Depp has apologised for remarks he made about US President Donald Trump in a speech at the Glastonbury Festival.

Depp told People magazine it was in "poor taste", did not "come out as intended" and was only meant to amuse.

Depp had asked the crowd: "When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?"

Trump supporters condemned the actor and the White House described his comments as "sad".

Depp's remarks on Thursday came as he introduced a screening of his film The Libertine at the festival in south-west England.

He asked: "Can you bring Trump here?"

After receiving jeers from the crowd, he added: "You misunderstand completely. When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
"I want to clarify. I'm not an actor. I lie for a living [but] it's been a while. Maybe it's about time.

"I think he needs help and there are a lot of wonderful dark, dark places he could go."

The star acknowledged that his comments - which may have been a reference to the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln by actor John Wilkes Booth in 1865 - would prove controversial.

Depp said on Friday: "I apologise for the bad joke I attempted last night in poor taste about President Trump.

"It did not come out as intended, and I intended no malice. I was only trying to amuse, not to harm anyone."

After his initial comment, a White House statement on behalf of the president said it was "sad" that Depp had not followed Mr Trump's lead in condemning all violence.

"I hope that some of Mr Depp's colleagues will speak out against this type of rhetoric as strongly as they would if his comments were directed to a Democratic elected official," the statement read.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer echoed that on Friday, saying: "The president has made it clear that we should denounce violence in all of its forms and I think that if we're going to hold to that standard then we should agree that that standard should be universally called out."

Depp reappeared at Glastonbury on Friday, playing guitar on stage with Kris Kristofferson.

Depp is not the first US celebrity to allude to killing the president.

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Depp seems to be well named.
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Yes. Since Trump took office, Congress has passed 42 pieces of legislation through both houses. Of those, 40 are now signed into law and 2 are still pending Trump's signature. Many of these are rolling back previous regulations from various departments (Labor, Education, Energy to name a few). Source, if you need a cure for insomnia.

Trump has signed 37 executive orders so far in his young presidency. While not "laws" in the traditional sense, they do have legal weight so long as they don't violate the Constitution or existing laws. Thus the reason for some of the court activity so far. Source.

Dictator? Not yet. Buffoon? Most certainly.
True but most of the Trump Executive orders simply rolled back Obama's executive orders.
The next Democrat President can simply roll back Trump's EOs by signing new EOs.

If you really want to make a change that sticks then you have to have a Bill passed by both the House and the Senate like Obamacare which has proven very difficult to roll back; and may never be rolled back
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Old 24.06.2017, 00:53
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Keep in mind that although the majority in both houses and the presidency belong to the Republican party, there are several factions within the party that can't agree on legislation. So it's hard to get anything done.

There have been more than 11,000 resolutions/bills, etc. proposed this year between the two houses, and only 40 have made it through both and the president's desk to become law. So they're busy but maybe not generating results as some would expect, and not tackling the big issues like healthcare and taxes as aggressively as some would like. The day-to-day stuff is boring and doesn't generate revenue for media outlets.

Example of super important work being done: On 6 June, HR375 became law - it designated a federal courthouse building in Tennessee to be named the Fred R. Thompson Federal Building and United States Courthouse. You'd only care about that if you're A) from or in Tennessee, or B) a fan of the long-running U.S. TV show Law and Order.

As a comparison, the Democratic-majority Congress in 2009 had passed 30 laws by this date (first 6 months of Obama's first term). Even the landmark ACA/Obamacare wasn't passed by the Dems until Obama was into his second year of office.

(source same as before, using various search criteria)
True but most of those Bills simply rolled back Obama legislation; not much new or game changing

Edit;- basically I just repeated what 3Wishes wrote.
To make amends here is the link to the 40 Bills already approved by the President.

These have such riveting topics as "S.J.Res. 36: A joint resolution providing for the appointment of Roger W. Ferguson as a citizen regent of the Board of Regents of the Smithsonian Institution." and as mentioned many just repeal Obama laws using The Congressional Review Act.
A heretofore obscure law passed by Congress in 1996. It allows lawmakers to overturn any regulation imposed during the final six months of the previous administration, with a simple majority vote in each chamber of Congress.

So comparing the number of Bills approved by this Administration versus previous ones is a bit misleading as previous ones did not make wholesale use of this obscure law.
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Solar panels on the wall. Great imagination...

Next week the Man-baby's imagination is going to gift the world with this round thingy he likes to call "the wheel".
So how will building a thousand miles of solar panels bring back jobs for coal miners?
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True but most of the Trump Executive orders simply rolled back Obama's executive orders.
The next Democrat President can simply roll back Trump's EOs by signing new EOs.

If you really want to make a change that sticks then you have to have a Bill passed by both the House and the Senate like Obamacare which has proven very difficult to roll back; and may never be rolled back
Yes, but I was trying to be neutral-ish and not pass judgment. If the measuring stick of whether a president or Congress is "doing" something is what's been passed, then one can say that 37 EOs and 40 laws is...something. Also it's a favorite thing for new presidents to roll back EOs from their predecessor. Trump isn't unique in this, he's just more noisy about it.

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...These have such riveting topics as "S.J.Res. 36: A joint resolution providing for the appointment of Roger W. Ferguson as a citizen regent of the Board of Regents of the Smithsonian Institution..."
Some of the stuff Congress has to do is a bit boring. In this case, that's how the Board of Regents was set up when Congress created the Smithsonian in 1846 - there are nine citizen members nominated by the Board and they have to be approved by a joint resolution of Congress that is then signed by the president. Source. At least that's something relatively non-controversial they have to do, that they can cross off the list of stuff to get done.

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...So comparing the number of Bills approved by this Administration versus previous ones is a bit misleading as previous ones did not make wholesale use of this obscure law.
Again, was just trying to show comparisons using numbers if that's the measuring stick. Sbrinz hadn't heard of any legislation being passed into law, and frankly most Americans probably haven't either. For better or worse, that leaves the impression that Trump and his EOs are running the show.

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So how will building a thousand miles of solar panels bring back jobs for coal miners?
Silly, didn't you listen to the Donald's speech? Solar panels will save Mexico money! That's a good thing, right?? He'll pander to the coal miners next time he's in West Virginia...
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Just ONE simple little question- YES or NO answer will suffice.

Does any of the 42 from the Poll, still think he will be a Good President?
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Just ONE simple little question- YES or NO answer will suffice.

Does any of the 42 from the Poll, still think he will be a Good President?
I didn't take part in the poll, but I think that historians will look back on the Trump years as a time of positive change. People in the United States are getting actively engaged in politics, states are asserting their own authority, Europeans and others are finally growing up and realising that they can't just hang on to American coat tails when it comes to defence and foreign policy.

Mr Trump himself might be a total dick, but his dickishness has the potential to be a catalyst for some wonderfully positive changes.
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Trump's strategy of attacking the US intelligence services (Nazis !!) has not turned out well for him.

Now he seems to be spending too much time on attempting to destroy the credibility of the main stream media instead of concentrating on his role of governing the country.
I am sure the msm would be happy to publish good news?

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It is also claimed that Trump's confrontational style, people management approach and his habit of speaking against his team's statements are discouraging people from joining his White House team?
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I'm ashamed of my fellow libtard celebs, if you're going to make a statement like that, you need to own it.

Glastonbury 2017: Johnny Depp apologises for Trump comment

Actor Johnny Depp has apologised for remarks he made about US President Donald Trump in a speech at the Glastonbury Festival.

Depp told People magazine it was in "poor taste", did not "come out as intended" and was only meant to amuse.

Depp had asked the crowd: "When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?"

Trump supporters condemned the actor and the White House described his comments as "sad".

Depp's remarks on Thursday came as he introduced a screening of his film The Libertine at the festival in south-west England.

He asked: "Can you bring Trump here?"

After receiving jeers from the crowd, he added: "You misunderstand completely. When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
"I want to clarify. I'm not an actor. I lie for a living [but] it's been a while. Maybe it's about time.

"I think he needs help and there are a lot of wonderful dark, dark places he could go."

The star acknowledged that his comments - which may have been a reference to the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln by actor John Wilkes Booth in 1865 - would prove controversial.

Depp said on Friday: "I apologise for the bad joke I attempted last night in poor taste about President Trump.

"It did not come out as intended, and I intended no malice. I was only trying to amuse, not to harm anyone."

After his initial comment, a White House statement on behalf of the president said it was "sad" that Depp had not followed Mr Trump's lead in condemning all violence.

"I hope that some of Mr Depp's colleagues will speak out against this type of rhetoric as strongly as they would if his comments were directed to a Democratic elected official," the statement read.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer echoed that on Friday, saying: "The president has made it clear that we should denounce violence in all of its forms and I think that if we're going to hold to that standard then we should agree that that standard should be universally called out."

Depp reappeared at Glastonbury on Friday, playing guitar on stage with Kris Kristofferson.

Depp is not the first US celebrity to allude to killing the president.

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Well, I doubt he wants to spend the next 5 years in jail.

"Under the United States Code (Title 18, Section 871), threatening the US president is a class E felony. Anyone who "knowingly and wilfully" makes "any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm" upon the US president could be sentenced to up five years and/or be fined. It also includes the vice-president and presidential candidates."

Stiil:

"The US Secret Service is the agency tasked with investigating suspected cases. And US media reported that the service was aware of the actor's comments.

But, when it comes to statements made by artists, courts have usually declared the cases to be protected speech under the First Amendment to the US Constitution.

Stanford University Law Professor Nathaniel Persily told USA Today newspaper: "People are allowed to wish the president dead," up to the point they express a real intent to harm him. "To threaten someone you need words that encourage some sort of action."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40379843

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I think that historians will look back on the Trump years as a time of positive change.
Time will tell, it's still quite early for that, who know's what is around the corner...

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Well, let's hope so.
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