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Seems a bit extreme.

Maybe he'd worked out that you're a wingnut and he was trolling you.
Could be that, but I doubt it as I generally keep my opinions to myself at work and toe the line.

More likely he's just your typical illiberal lefty who is opposed to differing opinions.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

LOL, because red necked billies are open to them sure.

Well, wish you luck - but I do think he has sussed you out indeed- and he is the boss, after all
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Old 02.07.2017, 12:38
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Well, wish you luck - but I do think he has sussed you out indeed- and he is the boss, after all
If he is trolling then he is somewhat of a pro because he told me with a straight face that he "hates Trump, the SVP and all right wingers - because they are based on hate"
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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I believe Reagan was a great president, maybe because he delegated his experts to run the country.

I am wondering who will be prepared to work with Trump and make this government work?
This.

Whoever will, will have a lot to do to control the damage he does when he deviates or forgets the script they prepared for him.

I am simply hoping that his machinations won't impact other countries that much...
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The House will become stronger through this and take back some of the Presidential power. They cannot rely on Trump to lead the nation so they will step up to the plate. The clarity that Trump is not mentally fit to lead a nation will unite them enough to bring the US through the next four years or until another President has been chosen.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/01/po...wer/index.html
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Another blow to one of Trump's ideas. States refuse to give voters' info to commission.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40469272

And all because he insists he would have won the popular vote as well except for massive election voting fraud. Much better things for the money to be spent on - like better healthcare for everyone. Oops! What a bad idea!
California, a state Trump singled out for “serious voter fraud,” also refused to participate. Alex Padilla, the California secretary of state, said providing data “would only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive voter fraud.”

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If there really was no voter fraud then wouldn't providing the information delegitimize the voter fraud claims by proving them false?

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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I know, it's ridiculous. Do you really need: names, addresses, dates of birth, political affiliation, last four digits of social security number, voting history since 2006, criminal convictions and military status to ascertain if someone is eligible to vote or not? Neither political affliation or voting history should be included. Criminal convictions I guess maybe if they're not allowed to vote, but what's your military status got to do with voting?
Names, addresses, political party membership and voting history (i.e. that you voted, not how you voted) are publicly available information in every state, AFAIK. The commission can request that info. Many Americans aren't affiliated with a political party.

Last 4 of SSN may or may not be on records and is confidential. A lot of states have you register with your driver's license number instead.

Criminal history is a bit vague, because it's a totally different government department. State election offices are required to "bounce" their database against the criminal record database for felonies only. Not all felons are registered to vote. Not all of them use their real names. Not all of them even try to vote.

Military is also vague. There are tens of thousands of men and women on active duty and in the reserves. Those within the lower 48 tend to vote in person like everyone else. As Medea says, the commission's request seems to single out the absentee military voters, which again has almost nothing to do with fraud.

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I see her dominating him..

Look beneath the surface marton, look beneath the surface.

Don't understand the push for portraying her needy and submissive, must be some male fantasy really.
I'm agree. She's a tough cookie and is not cowering behind him. Sure, she's a bit shy and trying to find her way in this new role but she'll get there. I bet behind closed doors she's got his number.

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The House will become stronger through this and take back some of the Presidential power. They cannot rely on Trump to lead the nation so they will step up to the plate. The clarity that Trump is not mentally fit to lead a nation will unite them enough to bring the US through the next four years or until another President has been chosen.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/01/po...wer/index.html
I'd like to think you're right but we'll see. Congress or not, the office of the president still has a lot of power, particularly when it comes to foreign policy.

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California, a state Trump singled out for “serious voter fraud,” also refused to participate. Alex Padilla, the California secretary of state, said providing data “would only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive voter fraud.”

If there really was no voter fraud then wouldn't providing the information delegitimize the voter fraud claims by proving them false?
You'd think so but it's not that simple. Voter fraud takes many forms, from the deliberate (impersonation) to the good intentions that happened to be against the law (husband votes for his deceased wife when the absentee ballot comes in). For his claims of fraud, Trump believes that many illegals voted. None of the information the commission requested will help with investigating illegals voting.

In most states, you only have to certify in writing, under penalty of perjury, that you're a citizen. You don't have to prove you're a citizen. Heck, that would be difficult anyway, because the U.S. doesn't have a national identity card. You can get a SSN and a driver's license even if you're a foreigner, although it's tougher to do that if you're illegal. The majority of Americans don't have passports.

That leaves people to provide birth certificates or naturalization papers. Those cost money and are not always easy to get, particularly for older people. The courts have upheld that requiring people to "pay" to register to vote is a form of poll tax and is discriminatory - and having to pay for an ID document is included in that.

I don't have enough hours to go into what I think needs to be done to reduce what little fraud there is.

Edit, and here's a nice HuffPost Op-Ed that talks about the Morning Joe co-hosts and how they're not any better than Trump.
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Edit, and here's a nice HuffPost Op-Ed that talks about the Morning Joe co-hosts and how they're not any better than Trump.
They chastised Trump for his vicious and vulgar attacks on her appearance, for referring to her as ''low I.Q. Crazy Mika'' and him as''Psycho Joe''

Classic Trump
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They chastised Trump for his vicious and vulgar attacks on her appearance, for referring to her as ''low I.Q. Crazy Mika'' and him as''Psycho Joe''

Classic Trump
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It is good that Scarborough and Brzezinski have finally recognized, or at least publicly admitted, that Trump is unfit to be president.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump just tweeted this
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Can't believe people are calling for national emergency in their tweets after they saw this, lol. Either national lobotomy or they are already drunk on the 4th July drinks.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The president of the United States tweeted that?

Says it all, really.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Like I've said, it's time for others to take the lead.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I have more or less given up on sharing Trump tweets; each is more bizzare than the previous one.
Why did he choose to start a media fight with MSNBC on the day there was good news for Trump. The news was about Congress passing Bills on Kate’s Law and No Sanctuary for Criminals Act but there was practically no media coverage for these.

I was more concerned about this tweet
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The era of strategic patience with the North Korea regime has failed. That patience is over. We are working closely with....
At least if NK make a preemptive strike against the US then I am a long way away
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

lmfao!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Obama started this shit, you know, with his slow jams and mic drops.

Trump is just taking it to another level.

This is what the people wanted, and this is what they got.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The video Trump tweeted is from WrestleMania 23 in 2007 when Trump competed versus WWE head Vince McMahon during a staged "battle of the billionaires" fight where each chose one wrestler to represent them.

Trump's wrestler also won that match, and McMahon was required to shave his head after the loss. In a staged TV moment, Trump "bodyslammed" McMahon and then helped shave his head.

Original video on YouTube!
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So he talks about fake news but thinks that WWE is real?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I'm guessing that since Ivanka has been limiting her advisory expertise, Trump has turned to the youngest of his brood, Baron.
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The president of the United States tweeted that?

Says it all, really.
Agreed.

Best President ever!
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